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I promise it has real thought and real value. Can't anyone relate?

Please, only serious relpies... please.
 
Originally posted by: plastick
I promise it has real thought and real value. Can't anyone relate?

Please, only serious relpies... please.
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To be honest, I have many of the same thoughts. I really get seriously depressed when I think of things like this. 🙁
 
i wasn't able to read through your entire post because your comments are somewhat conflicting. While I can appreciate your thoughts and you taking them down on paper (or online in this case), many of your supporting words then question your own opinions. This makes your post very difficult to read and follow through.

I think you touch on some good ideas and points, but need to narrow it down a bit and put some focus.

And on another thought, what got you to thinking so much?...."lying in bed and trying to sleep".....errr....on shrooms maybe???....jk on that part but i have to admit it did cross my mind you were on something.
 
oh..and forgot to mention i do agree with most of what you're saying....however depressing it really is.
 
I guess since my last response wasn't constructive enough:

It's not a bad post, I guess, but every paragraph or two seems to be a new idea, a new gripe, based on ideas that ave been ridden into the earth. The stuff about God is all right, but it's the same as the dull echo of "spiritual but not religious" that rings across every high school and college campus.

Like I said before, A for effort.
 
Reminds me when I sat there and pondered what happens to me at the point of death. What do I feel and see? Because right now I have a consciousness and I can feel and see, so what happens at death. I can't comprehend the nothingness.
 
I think its a heartfelt post and I think about a lot of the same things often. I have a few suggestions for you:
1. Move back in with your mom. I wish I had spent more time with my mom, one of my greatest regrets.
2. Spend time in the word and in prayer. If you are like me you almost feel numb to everything most of the time and feel everything sometimes when you are alone. Talking to God and spending time reading the Bible reaffirms your faith and gives you that closeness to God that we were created to feel.

I think if you do these things you will feel a lot better, PM me if you have any quesitons/would like to talk more.
David
 
Originally posted by: neutralizer
Reminds me when I sat there and pondered what happens to me at the point of death. What do I feel and see? Because right now I have a consciousness and I can feel and see, so what happens at death. I can't comprehend the nothingness.
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I absolutely do that, but even though I know there has to be something the thought of not having a physical body scares the crap out of me.
 
Originally posted by: thepd7
Originally posted by: neutralizer
Reminds me when I sat there and pondered what happens to me at the point of death. What do I feel and see? Because right now I have a consciousness and I can feel and see, so what happens at death. I can't comprehend the nothingness.
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I absolutely do that, but even though I know there has to be something the thought of not having a physical body scares the crap out of me.
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I guess the fact that I'm agnostic causes me to try to rationalize wtf goes on after life.
 
what u wrote down in multiple paragraphs and in such a descriptive manner, i pretty much think about on a weekly basis. i find myself just wondering why i even care about this or that, knowing in time it wont mean ******. for example....we go to school to go to college. we go to college to get a good job, we get a good job to make money. we make money to help us create our fulfilling lives. why cant we bypass all that crap.....cuz all the schooling wont matter, considering life is so short. i realize this is what probably goes through many peoples' minds as they drop out of school or quit their jobs.....and i pretty much blanked out right about hurr.....


one thought that always comes to me is the thought of "forever." we die...and probably dont come back....forever...i mean, even if all humanity died off....it would be like....never-ending and would just go on and on....i realize how confusing this sounds, i just dont know how to express what i mean. kind of like... when u die, ur in heaven or hell (as an example), forever....nothing changes....it just keeps going, theres no Reset button...

EDIT:
i think i used elipses (...) like 36 times...sorry
 
I found your post extremely interesting and enlightening.
What you wrote made a ton of sense and made me think on a level even deeper than i'm used to.
Anyone else here have alot of these types of thoughts but have difficulty typing it or expressing it on paper?
 
Hmm - What the hell... I've had enough of people mentioning the bible and stuff, and it appears that the OP might be ready to learn something a little more 'important'... (Very little in the Bible is 'important' in the grand scheme of things).

To the OP: I'd advise you to go and see someone (if possible) - when he'll next be in your area I don't know - (he travels a lot, but then, these days one person CAN cover the globe - unlike back in Jesus's day). His name is Maharaji Ji. (I know - so he's Indian, but trust me - (Jesus spent some time in India too 😉 )). If you go to see Maharaji with an open mind (and spirit) - he can, and will help you - (though it may take you some time to realise that).
 
Since there is no evidence whatsoever that God exists, you make certain assumptions:

1. That God exists
2. That God is a singular entity
3. That God is the point of life

Hey, if your beliefs allow you peace and comfort in getting to know your percieved place in the universe, then more power to you, I guess.
 
Ugh. Didn't read it all, but got the gist and ya I had those thoughts in my youth as well.

Now for some answers:

1)There is no "God". May not be what you want to hear, but it's the truth. Religion, "God", Heaven, etc are motivations to follow a path(see 2).

2) Our lives, education, work, and other seemingly mundane things all serve a purpose. That purpose is to build a Civilization that reaches such a state that it becomes self-perpetuating and creates a lifestyle equivalent to the religious idea of Heaven.

3) Until the Heaven-on-Earth state is reached, every generation must Work, Learn, have families, etc. Essentially every generation adds to the last like one brick upon another until the task is complete.

4) However, it can't ever be decided, "We made it!", because when we do it turns out we didn't. Not necessarily because the level acheived isn't indeed "heavenly", but because we always become Decadent and unable to maintain what we have.

5) The flipside of #4, and often the downfall, is just giving up because it seems too complex and too difficult to continue.

Both 4 and 5 are quite evident in todays world. 4 is seen in the all pervasive need for Entertainment, from TV, Movies, Music, Porn, Parties, Drugs/Alcohol, Sex, etc. Rich/Poor, Religious/Non-religious, Educated/Uneducated all are directly affected by #4. Evidence of #5 isn't as widespread or common, but the Religious seem at the forefront of this at the present time. From attacks on Science/Scientific thought to an obsession with the End of the World which is welcomed with an anticipation like someone serious about committing suicide. We live in troubled times because people are giving up.

I suppose I went off on a tangent there, but oh well, just more for you to think about.
 
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