Nevermind. Figured it out...Doh...

[CichliSuite]

NeverWasn't sure whether post this in Perhipherals or here, but it may, by chance, be related to the motherboard.

I purchased the 8kta3 regular (no Raid IDE), and scored an Maxtor ULTRA ATA100 PIC card from that exellent rebate deal.

Since I have three devices, a Maxtor 20gig, CDRW and CD-Rom, and I want to be able to burn CDs on the fly, I asked someone and found that running each of them on seperate ide chnnels would provide for the best speed access - the chance of buffer underruns would be greatly reduced.

However, this card doesn't seem to work right with my system.

here's how I installed it:
1. popped the card in. Atached nothing to it.
2. Bootedinto windows, let Pnp detection occur, and installe drivers for it. Then shutdown.
3. Attached my CDRW to IDE channel one on the card. The HD and CD-rom are attached to IDE 1 and 2 on the motherboard.
4. Rechecked to make sure all devices were set to Master Status.
5. Booted up. POST detected the HD as Primary Master and the CD-Rom as Sec. Master.
6. Screen clears and the Maxtor card screen comes up and its starts detecting.
7. The CDRW is detected, and then it says "ULTRAbios 100 was not installed installed because there are no drives attached".

Now the statemet is ambiguous and it seems there may be something wrong. If it means that no _ATA100_ drives are attached, then it's correct because the CDRW is ATA33. BUT, I installed this on my old system a week ago with the same drive attached, and this statement never came up. But I think I might have had my 20gig attached as well which is ATA100, but I can't remember. Hope you aren't confused! Please read on....

8. The usual second screen after the POST comes up (the ATA100 screen is due to the card of course) with all the IRQ assignemtns and etc.
9. It tried to verify DMI pool data, and then where it would normally kick into windows 98, it tried to boot from the CDRW attached to the Controller card! Not sure , but I assume so because it says Boot from CD. If I detach the drive from the Controller card and boot up, windows kicks in fine.....

So what I'm thinking is that somehow the IDE channels are getting assigned all wrong, or somehow the IDE Controller card is being given the Primary Master status. is it somehow disengaging the mainboard ide channels?

What do I do?

Sorry for the long winded post, but I tried to get in all the details in hopes that something my clue you in to what's wrong.

Thanks a bunch and a bag o' chips. Cpu chips, that is.

- Cichlisuite

 

[tjll11a]

Sounds alittle weird i'd put the hard dive on the pci card and the 2 cdroms on there own channels on mb.

I have the same MB and here is my setup

On baord i have

Pri master=Kenwood 72x g:
Sec master=Plextor 12x10x32a h:
Sec slave=aopen 16x slot dvd i:



Promise ata100 controller
pri master=ibm deckstar 7200 rmp 30 gig ata-100 drives c: e:
sec master=Maxtor 7200 rpm ata-100 drive d:

Scsi 2940u
Fugitsu optical drive f:

I think thats the drie assignment

Thanks
Jason

 

[Tummy]

Dude I had a problem on my 8kta3 - if I didn't have DMA turned ON for my burner in '98, I couldn't burn CD's at all (always buffer underrun, evan at 2x). Turning DMA on solved the problem for me, at least.

 

[CichliSuite]

Case Closed!

The switcheroo did the trick.

Out of curiousity. Why does the add-on override the onboard channels as the primary ide controller?

 

[GT578]

I have a Promise Ultra100 controller I added to my MSI K7T PRO2-A ...2 harddrives and my burner is on the promise....my cd-rom is on the onboard IDE....under win2000. The funny thing is...i can't do on the fly burn or even read a CD from the cd-rom because its not on the same channel as the burner. If i put the burner on the onboard IDE..and leave the harddrives on the promise controller, I can't burn at all. I can't even burn a CD if everything is on the onboard controller. I don't know what is causing this but I'm guessing it has something to do with the IDE busmaster drivers or that ASPI layer in win2000. I know this isn't an answer to the first post or anything but I never can find a reason for why this happens or a possible solution to my problem. Any help would be appreciated....

 

[CichliSuite]

Gt,

This may not be the answer you want to hear, but why not run '98? Windows 2000 causes more problems than its worth.

Compatibility issues seem to be the norm for win2000.

It's always best to stay an OS behind. Especially when the new OS departs significantly from the previous version.

 

[tjll11a]

I love windows 2000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No problems here

 

[Tummy]

YOu can make the add-on not override the primary... just depends on what you have your boot order set to!

 

[CichliSuite]

Is Boot order relevant?

I have mine set to boot IDE-0 first.

Why does IDE-0 point to the controller card and not the first IDE channel on the mainboard?

 

[Super6]

If the Maxtor card is made by Promise then that could explain what's happening.....read a while back that Promise recommends only hard drives running off their controllers. Sorry I can't provide a link.

Super6

 

[CichliSuite]

Why, yes it is indeed a promise.
However, its not so much the fact that HDs msut work on it, but that it seems to override the onboard IDE channels as primary.

 

[CichliSuite]

bump. cause I still need an swer to this annoying quirk.

Any help woul dbe much appreciated.

 

[speed01]

Is the IDE controller card set to IRQ 14? If it is, then that's why it looks there first. I believe IRQ14 is reserved for the primary drive and 15 is for the secondary. I had a similar prob in one of mine, every time I added the card, my drive letters would change and it would try to boot off of the secondary drive. If I took it out, everything was fine. I went into device manager and changed the IRQ to 15 for the card and haven't had a problem since. Just a thought.