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Never though I would say this: 30" is too big

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I finally got my giant Dell 30" and while it is awesome, the dot pitch is so small that I have to put the thing on the edge of my desk like 10" from my eyes to keep from eyestrain. So it kind of wastes all my desk space since I cannot put anything in front of it.

They need a like a 36" version of this model. I'm thinking maybe I will just get the 27" for now. Shame :-(



 
You just need to adapt to new viewing procedures. Increase the text size, reskin the OS, etc.

If not, I'll give you 50 bucks for the 30in panel. 😛
 
Originally posted by: Bateluer
You just need to adapt to new viewing procedures. Increase the text size, reskin the OS, etc.

If not, I'll give you 50 bucks for the 30in panel. 😛
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$300!
 
Originally posted by: narcotic
I think for desktop 27" should be the maximum. More than that is not practical.
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Not practical but oh so nice!
<--Goes back to viewing AT on a 37" Aquos, and no I don't maximize the browser to fill the entire screen. 😀
 
I'm going to make a suggestion that will reveal me for the philistine that I am: reduce your resolution. Get over your aversion to running your LCD at non native rez. If you choose a rez that's an even divider of the native rez, the scaling will be fine.

You say it won't look good? you know what doesn't look good? when your eyes go blurry from looking at microscopic text all day. not to mention creeping vision loss. then not only your monitor won't look good, the entire freaking world won't look good.

what about increasing your windows fonts? problem with that is many apps use their own font sizes and ignore what you set in control panel. not to mention all the web sites that use small absolute font size, like say, THIS one. sure you can use the zoom feature of your browser, but it's no fun having to scroll left and right all the time.

Increase font scaling (DPI), you say? many apps assume you use standard scaling and you end up with dialogs all messed up b/c the apps don't scale fonts properly.

Okay, so why not just buy a 24"? true, but you may face the same problem with 1920x1200 on a 24".
 
Fonts are easily disregarded by client UI apps. Steam and Itunes are big examples.

But web browsers make it pretty simple to scale even absolute fonts on the fly - unless its inside of Flash...
 
Originally posted by: pctwo
I'm going to make a suggestion that will reveal me for the philistine that I am: reduce your resolution. Get over your aversion to running your LCD at non native rez. If you choose a rez that's an even divider of the native rez, the scaling will be fine.

You say it won't look good? you know what doesn't look good? when your eyes go blurry from looking at microscopic text all day. not to mention creeping vision loss. then not only your monitor won't look good, the entire freaking world won't look good.

what about increasing your windows fonts? problem with that is many apps use their own font sizes and ignore what you set in control panel. not to mention all the web sites that use small absolute font size, like say, THIS one. sure you can use the zoom feature of your browser, but it's no fun having to scroll left and right all the time.

Increase font scaling (DPI), you say? many apps assume you use standard scaling and you end up with dialogs all messed up b/c the apps don't scale fonts properly.

Okay, so why not just buy a 24"? true, but you may face the same problem with 1920x1200 on a 24".
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Good idea, but IIRC, for Dell 30" it's either the native 2560(?)xwhatever or 1280xwhatever. Point being, its' either really small or really large, something about not being able to scale.
 
Originally posted by: pctwo
I'm going to make a suggestion that will reveal me for the philistine that I am: reduce your resolution. Get over your aversion to running your LCD at non native rez. If you choose a rez that's an even divider of the native rez, the scaling will be fine.

You say it won't look good? you know what doesn't look good? when your eyes go blurry from looking at microscopic text all day. not to mention creeping vision loss. then not only your monitor won't look good, the entire freaking world won't look good.

what about increasing your windows fonts? problem with that is many apps use their own font sizes and ignore what you set in control panel. not to mention all the web sites that use small absolute font size, like say, THIS one. sure you can use the zoom feature of your browser, but it's no fun having to scroll left and right all the time.

Increase font scaling (DPI), you say? many apps assume you use standard scaling and you end up with dialogs all messed up b/c the apps don't scale fonts properly.

Okay, so why not just buy a 24"? true, but you may face the same problem with 1920x1200 on a 24".
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I find 1920 x 1200 on a 24" LCD to be comfortable, and I have crappy eyes.

I agree with your post in general, though. For my work laptop, I ordered a 17" LCD, with a microscopic resolution of 1920 x 1200. I only rarely use the screen at full resolution, but I ordered this model so that i can scale the resolution as my eyes get tired. I nromally run it as 1440 x 900, but will go to 1280 x 800 when my eyes are tired. Becuase the pixels are so damn small, the laptop screen scales very nicely no matter what resolution I run it at.


 
Originally posted by: pctwo
I'm going to make a suggestion that will reveal me for the philistine that I am: reduce your resolution. Get over your aversion to running your LCD at non native rez. If you choose a rez that's an even divider of the native rez, the scaling will be fine.

You say it won't look good? you know what doesn't look good? when your eyes go blurry from looking at microscopic text all day. not to mention creeping vision loss. then not only your monitor won't look good, the entire freaking world won't look good.

what about increasing your windows fonts? problem with that is many apps use their own font sizes and ignore what you set in control panel. not to mention all the web sites that use small absolute font size, like say, THIS one. sure you can use the zoom feature of your browser, but it's no fun having to scroll left and right all the time.

Increase font scaling (DPI), you say? many apps assume you use standard scaling and you end up with dialogs all messed up b/c the apps don't scale fonts properly.

Okay, so why not just buy a 24"? true, but you may face the same problem with 1920x1200 on a 24".
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The problem is that a 30" at non native res will look absolutely craptastic, and IMHO running it at non native res would pretty much defeat the purpose of using an expensive 30" LCD.

In that case, a person would weaker eyesight would be better off using dual 19" LCDs at 1280x1024. Large pixels at native res. I agree about such small pixels (on a 30") potentially damaging someone's eyesight, but in that case, that person would be better off with a different kind of solution. The only point of a 30" in my opinion is that its massive resolution provides ample desktop real estate. If sheer size is more important than resolution, a LCD TV at 1920x1080 would be a better choice.

Also I've found Vista's text and icon scaling to be excellent in general.
 
Everyone is missing the more obvious fix. LCD TVs generally run at a lower resolution than their equivalent sized LCD monitors. You could trade your 30" monitor for a 720P 32" TV and get nice big fonts, icons, etc. at native res and keep your screen real estate if that's what you want. Or get a 1080P 32", lower res than what you have now but still a good res for sitting 2-3 feet away.

I use a 37" 1080P from about 3 feet away at my desk and love it. It takes a few days to get used to but once you do it's just great. Nothing like having your entire peripheral vision covered with one screen 😀
 
DPI.

Manual adjust of font sizes.

Those options exist for a reason.

I don't even use DPI myself, i just manually set the global font settings to whatever i like best.

Vista > XP for DPI scaling too, which helps.

But keep in mind, the whole point of getting a 30" LCD shouldn't be for physical size...the benefit is the resolution.

2560x1600 is nearly double the total viewing area of a 1080p TV.
Drastically more pixel real estate.

Then again, if physical size is all you wanted, then yeah, you likely got the wrong display.

Get a big TV with massively big ugly pixels instead i guess? 😛🙁
 
Originally posted by: n7
DPI.

Manual adjust of font sizes.

Those options exist for a reason.

I don't even use DPI myself, i just manually set the global font settings to whatever i like best.

Vista > XP for DPI scaling too, which helps.

But keep in mind, the whole point of getting a 30" LCD shouldn't be for physical size...the benefit is the resolution.

2560x1600 is nearly double the total viewing area of a 1080p TV.
Drastically more pixel real estate.

Then again, if physical size is all you wanted, then yeah, you likely got the wrong display.

Get a big TV with massively big ugly pixels instead i guess? 😛🙁
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No what is needed is a 35" monitor w/ 2560x1600 resolution 🙂
 
Originally posted by: kmmatney
Originally posted by: pctwo
I'm going to make a suggestion that will reveal me for the philistine that I am: reduce your resolution. Get over your aversion to running your LCD at non native rez. If you choose a rez that's an even divider of the native rez, the scaling will be fine.

You say it won't look good? you know what doesn't look good? when your eyes go blurry from looking at microscopic text all day. not to mention creeping vision loss. then not only your monitor won't look good, the entire freaking world won't look good.

what about increasing your windows fonts? problem with that is many apps use their own font sizes and ignore what you set in control panel. not to mention all the web sites that use small absolute font size, like say, THIS one. sure you can use the zoom feature of your browser, but it's no fun having to scroll left and right all the time.

Increase font scaling (DPI), you say? many apps assume you use standard scaling and you end up with dialogs all messed up b/c the apps don't scale fonts properly.

Okay, so why not just buy a 24"? true, but you may face the same problem with 1920x1200 on a 24".
Click to expand...


I find 1920 x 1200 on a 24" LCD to be comfortable, and I have crappy eyes.

I agree with your post in general, though. For my work laptop, I ordered a 17" LCD, with a microscopic resolution of 1920 x 1200. I only rarely use the screen at full resolution, but I ordered this model so that i can scale the resolution as my eyes get tired. I nromally run it as 1440 x 900, but will go to 1280 x 800 when my eyes are tired. Becuase the pixels are so damn small, the laptop screen scales very nicely no matter what resolution I run it at.
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my 17" laptop runs natively at 1280x800. It looks great to me, though my wife has co-opted it and I rarely am allowed near it anymore 🙁

@OP: I assume that you do a little gaming when you're not perusing AT's forums 😉? IE7 has this cool little button in the bottom right of the screen...
 
Get new glasses! I have my 30" on the end of my desk and I can see text fine. Although I think I do prefer the pixel size of a 24"
 
Originally posted by: CitizenDoug

Get a big TV with massively big ugly pixels instead i guess? 😛🙁
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No what is needed is a 35" monitor w/ 2560x1600 resolution 🙂[/quote]

No thanx.

I like my 0.25 pixel pitch.
Yes, i have to mess with things a little for easy reading from a distance, but that's very doable, & i don't mind.

But tell us, how have you coped with the smaller dot pitch?
What you've done to work with it would be nice to know 🙂
 
I'm going to make a suggestion that will reveal me for the philistine that I am: reduce your resolution. Get over your aversion to running your LCD at non native rez. If you choose a rez that's an even divider of the native rez, the scaling will be fine.
Click to expand...

i resisted doing this myself for a long time.

at a viewing distance of about 2 feet, my eyes are most
comfortable with a pixel size of .4 or .5 mm.

i took a class in the Disability Resources department,
learning Dragon Naturally Speaking. they were using
1280 x 1024 Dell 19" at 1024 x 768. and ... it wasn't
so bad !

i have a 21" Samsung that is 1600 x 1200 native.
it's at 1024 x 768, still a 4:3 ratio. and, it looks
fine ... it doesn't look "smirched".

 
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