Never mind that Mueller guy - It's time to bomb Syria!

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US is back to it's favorite pastime of bombing random Middle Eastern countries. Today they spun the regime change roulette wheel and it landed on Assad again. 'Murica is fueling up it's freedom jet fighters and will bomb Syria within 48 hours. Buckle your seat belts, they're going in hot. Also there probably will be no time for any Mueller stuff because we're going to war. Take that, liberals!


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States is weighing a multinational military response to the suspected Syrian poison gas attack, U.S. officials told Reuters on Monday, as experts listed several key facilities that could be viable targets.

U.S. President Donald Trump promised forceful action on Monday, saying a decision would be made soon following the suspected chemical weapons attack late on Saturday in the Syrian city of Douma that killed at least 60 people and injured more than 1,000 others.

U.S. officials who spoke on condition of anonymity did not disclose any plans, but acknowledged military options were being developed. The White House, Pentagon and State Department declined to comment on specific options or whether military action was likely.


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...se-to-syria-attack-sources-idUSKBN1HH00W?il=0
 

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Jeebus, Mueller doesn't care. Everything will continue along and Fox can blow smoke up Trump's ass. Mueller survived the gun protests on DC and will Syria. Distractions including Syria are irrelevant to his investigation.
 

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US is back to it's favorite pastime of bombing random Middle Eastern countries. Today they spun the regime change roulette wheel and it landed on Assad again. 'Murica is fueling up it's freedom jet fighters and will bomb Syria within 48 hours. Buckle your seat belts, they're going in hot. Also there probably will be no time for any Mueller stuff because we're going to war. Take that, liberals!


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...se-to-syria-attack-sources-idUSKBN1HH00W?il=0

I must admit I don't get it. Slaughter your own people with all the guns and explosives and conventional weapons you want. Use some chemical weapons though, oh no, we can't have any of that!
 
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I must admit I don't get it. Slaughter your own people with all the guns and explosives and conventional weapons you want. Use some chemical weapons though, oh no, we can't have any of that!


What I don't get is why Assad would use chemical weapons on one tiny pocket of rebels that just agreed to evacuate to Idlib. He already won against them, they gave up. He knows the US will attack if he uses the weapons.... so he does it anyways? It makes no sense.


I also don't get how the west can decide on punitive strikes that will likely kill hundreds of people without any physical or proof or investigation. All they have is videos on twitter.... but somehow that is enough for CENTCOM.


I guess we shouldn't expect anything else from war criminal Mattis. He got his "mad dog" name by using white phosphorus on Fallujah and killing thousands of civilians. He rightfully should be in prison for the rest of his life but here in America he gets a position in the highest parts of government lol.
 

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How we gonna do that when Trump said last week ":we are getting out very soon"?
 

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How we gonna do that when Trump said last week ":we are getting out very soon"?

This is disheartening. Assad had nothing to win and everything to lose by using chemical weapons. Has it been verified that the rebels didn't attack themselves and blame it on Assad? Put it this way, I am not taking the rebels word for it. There needs to be irrefutable objective evidence pointing towards the Syrian government. It is counterproductive to be talking about retaliation in the absence of such evidence. Quite frankly I don't trust a single party in all of Syria.

The US, France and UK have led international condemnation of the alleged attack, with the Syrian government and its Russian backers denying any responsibility.
 
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I must admit I don't get it. Slaughter your own people with all the guns and explosives and conventional weapons you want. Use some chemical weapons though, oh no, we can't have any of that!

But... The thing is, there was NO CHEMICAL WEAPONS. That is a lie. Same lie they spun about Saddam Hussein and non-existent WMDs in Iraq. It's just another reason to bomb another Middle Eastern country.

Trouble is, this time, it's not going to work. This time, the warplanes will be shot down by Russian AA. We need to vote these insane politicians out of office before they kill us all, and the whole world as well.
 

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Honest question - would would be the geo-political repercussions if Trump went so far as to issuing his own "Bid Laden" tactical strike on al-Assad? Are there ground rules on issuing hits on rulers of a psuedo-sovereign nation?
 

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But... The thing is, there was NO CHEMICAL WEAPONS. That is a lie. Same lie they spun about Saddam Hussein and non-existent WMDs in Iraq. It's just another reason to bomb another Middle Eastern country.

Trouble is, this time, it's not going to work. This time, the warplanes will be shot down by Russian AA. We need to vote these insane politicians out of office before they kill us all, and the whole world as well.

Don't see how it is a lie when victims of chemical weapons attack are showing up at medical centers. The only question is who was the one that launched it, that's the only questionable part.
 

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Israel+AMERICA vs iran+russia+turkey it is going down bois!

Don't see how it is a lie when victims of chemical weapons attack are showing up at medical centers. The only question is who was the one that launched it, that's the only questionable part.

It's fake. That video footage is fake. Victims may be real, but either they are not victims of a chemical attack or like you said, the chemical weapons were used by someone other than Syria or Russia to incite conflict and war. It's been done before many times. Those white helmets, have been known to lie many times in the past.
 

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It's fake. That video footage is fake. Victims may be real, but either they are not victims of a chemical attack or like you said, the chemical weapons were used by someone other than Syria or Russia to incite conflict and war. It's been done before many times. Those white helmets, have been known to lie many times in the past.
Wait, which is it, fake or a false-flag attack? Your attempts to slap away blame from Russia/Syria are getting confusing.
 

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Yeah, all this Mueller stuff is great. Oh, what's a "Syria"?

No military action is going to matter as far as the SDNY and Mueller are concerned. Whatever these people do isn't going to help the situation, just whacking moles and people dying.
 

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It's fake. That video footage is fake. Victims may be real, but either they are not victims of a chemical attack or like you said, the chemical weapons were used by someone other than Syria or Russia to incite conflict and war. It's been done before many times. Those white helmets, have been known to lie many times in the past.
You realize that you aren't convincing anyone with unsubstantiated claims and zero links to credible sources...right? The white hats have been victims of fake news campaigns too, so it's kinda hard to take your word when we don't know what you've read. And I don't believe you're an eyewitness on the ground in Syria.
 

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Doesn’t Syria have a super fancy Russian air defense system now? I doubt we’re going to bomb anything major that’s well protected if that’s the case.
 

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It's fake. That video footage is fake. Victims may be real, but either they are not victims of a chemical attack or like you said, the chemical weapons were used by someone other than Syria or Russia to incite conflict and war. It's been done before many times. Those white helmets, have been known to lie many times in the past.

Nobody knows if it's fake or not. The fact that the US and rebel parties stand to benefit while Assad only has cruise missile strikes on Damascus to gain from using these weapons says a lot about who the likely culprits are, but there is no proof.


Syria and Russia have already invited OPCW to Douma to conduct an investigation, but the US has no interest in investigations. The US military simply wants to use these videos on twitter as an excuse to attack Syria and kill more people.


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-syrias-douma-shortly-opcw-idUSKBN1HH2IH?il=0


If the US was actually interested in the truth and in stopping the use of chemical weapons they would support a comprehensive investigation into the attack but the US knows very well that the Syrian rebels posses chemical weapons and have used them before.
 

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The strikes will be conducted somewhere between 1am and 4am Syria time so we have about 4-8 hours until things go down.


This will be very interesting because Russia stands to lose face if the US conducts another strike with impunity in Syria and Russia doesn't defend its ally. I am concerned that we are pushing Russia into a corner where the only solution is to either do nothing (be humiliated and made to look weak, again) or strike US assets.
 

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Keep playing with the tar baby fucktards. Just keep playing with it. This is insanity. Americans are screaming for conflict with Russia. The media has been pimping it for several years now. Trump seems ever so happy to give it to them. We have moved into civilization threat territory. Absolute utter insanity.

GTFO of Syria NOW!


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/09/russia-us-syria-chemical-weapon-attack

The US and Russia moved closer to direct confrontation over Syria on Monday night as Donald Trump said a decision was imminent on a response to a chemical weapon attack on Saturday, and Moscow warned that any US military action would have “grave repercussions”.
 
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The strikes will be conducted somewhere between 1am and 4am Syria time so we have about 4-8 hours until things go down.


This will be very interesting because Russia stands to lose face if the US conducts another strike with impunity in Syria and Russia doesn't defend its ally. I am concerned that we are pushing Russia into a corner where the only solution is to either do nothing (be humiliated and made to look weak, again) or strike US assets.

Russia seems like the only rational actor. If Syria and Russia are both calling for an investigation, it make a ton of sense to do it. America is making assumptions and acting on them. That is irrational.

Speaking in Moscow, Lavrov appeared to pre-empt a possible western strike on Syria, announcing that Russia would propose a “transparent and honest” investigation at the security council on Tuesday, with the involvement of the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons. Moscow has previously insisted there was no evidence for a chemical attack.

“If, under the pretext of a lack of security guarantees, those who employ anti-Russian arguments to pursue their Russophobic aims do not allow experts to come, then it will be a verdict on their true plans and show that they have no interest in establishing the truth,” Lavrov said.

The Syrian regime, which has denied any involvement in the attack, said on Tuesday that it has invited the chemical weapons watchdog to send a fact-finding mission into the country.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...yria-chemical-attack-with-call-for-un-inquiry
 
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But... The thing is, there was NO CHEMICAL WEAPONS. That is a lie. Same lie they spun about Saddam Hussein and non-existent WMDs in Iraq. It's just another reason to bomb another Middle Eastern country.

Trouble is, this time, it's not going to work. This time, the warplanes will be shot down by Russian AA. We need to vote these insane politicians out of office before they kill us all, and the whole world as well.

Bullshit. There absolutely is chemical weapons. Seriously, WTF, did you forget about the deal made to let a 3rd party destroy a shit ton of them that Syria had stockpiled to prevent UN/NATO action?

Saddam absolutely had chemical weapons (and used them, on the Kurds in the 80s, oh and he lobbed some at Iran during that time as well; think he used some later on too). Now, he didn't have any nuclear weapons, which was strongly hinted at as being the main reason, and he had even destroyed much of his chemical stockpiles (but there was still some of the stuff in place so he could produce more).

You give Russia way too much credit. We'd handily be able to take out Russia's military in Syria and we'd kick the everloving shit out of their air force if they tried to send more. Oh please, we're not going to go into WW3 over Syria. Putin has no vested interest in being killed in nuclear hellfire. He has vested interest in gaining more power and strengthening Russia. That doesn't happen if he tries for nuclear apocalypse or even nuclear stalemate now.

Doesn’t Syria have a super fancy Russian air defense system now? I doubt we’re going to bomb anything major that’s well protected if that’s the case.

If by super fancy you mean not exactly cutting edge. You people do realize that countries like Iraq were using "super fancy Russian air defense" when we slapped the shit out of them, right? Russia has improved, but they're completely outclassed by our military. F-22s would mop the floor with anything in the Middle East right now, and we have lots of other means of attacking air defenses (cruise missiles, which we used to devastate a Russian built air base in Syria last year, remember?).

That's not to say we are invulnerable (after all we lost an F-117 during the Somalian conflict), but I don't think people understand the disparity in military power. Russian troops are not going to present an ongoing insurgent issue like we struggled with in Iraq and Afghanistan (oh, by the way, I hope you people know that Russia started arming some of those insurgents to help against us in Afghanistan, trying to do to us what we did to them in the 80s).

Keep playing with the tar baby fucktards. Just keep playing with it. This is insanity. Americans are screaming for conflict with Russia. The media has been pimping it for several years now. Trump seems ever so happy to give it to them. We have moved into civilization threat territory. Absolute utter insanity.

GTFO of Syria NOW!


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/09/russia-us-syria-chemical-weapon-attack

Wow, you are complete chicken shit.

You really think Russia presents an actual problem for us? Our military (that is already there, let alone the forces we could have there in the span of a week; we already have F-22s stationed in the Middle East, they along with our other air craft could make Syria a no-fly zone, which immediately makes Russian and Syrian military sitting ducks for bombing campaign) could easily kick the shit out of Russia's forces in Syria. Russia knows that. Russia's military has been stymied by Georgia and then fucking Ukraine for fuck's sake. They don't even have the level of military capability they have in Ukraine in Syria either. You really think that they could do a fucking thing about us wiping them and the Syrian military out if we wanted to? Russia is not going to threaten nuclear war over that shit either. The more Russia tries to openly threaten the worse it will be for them. We'll strangle them economically (even China won't stand in the way if Russia starts upping their threats to nukes), and we have the military might that we would beat the shit out of Russia in any conflict basically anywhere that Russia could wage it (Syria, Eastern Europe). Russia only loses by actually pushing things to real conflict. They win by talking tough and poking the bear but not actually getting the bear to do anything.

You really need to stop buying into Russian propaganda about their military might. Russia isn't going to use nukes and that's the only real threat they have to our military. Russia is a threat in that they're actively trying to sabotage our country, but they are not a direct military threat. We should be working to prevent them from becoming one again too as they've shown very problematic behavior just in the amount they currently wield.

What you're missing is that America doesn't want conflict with Russia or really in general (for the most part, there are of course right wing psychopaths that would love for us to roll into Iran, and probably some that would like us to nuke North Korea). That's why we didn't steamroll them out of Syria and wipe Assad's forces out. We don't want to be involved, contrary to what you seem to believe. We are involved because of the problems coming from that conflict (ISIS, genocide).

GTFO of here with that horseshit "the media is pushing for conflict with Russia" bullshit. They're reporting on what Russia has been doing. If you think we shouldn't have a problem with that then...wow.

Putin may or may not want direct conflict. I don't think he does because I don't think he wants people to see how badly his military would get its ass kicked, which it would. I do think he would like something to happen so he can spin it as America attacking Russian military (so he'd love for us to shoot down a Russian jet or something small but would trigger a big fervor). Mostly he wants the Russian people to ok pushing for more and more military development. But they're kinda stuck, as sanctions are hindering their economy. Why do you think they were trying to help Turmp in exchange for lessening the sanctions.

What's even more stupid is that you think us standing down is going to prevent Russia from stepping up the shit they're pulling. It won't. That's why we need to make sure they understand we won't just sit by while they perpetrate genocide and actively undermine our country.

I've posted this before. No, I'm not calling for us to go rolling into Syria like we did Iraq. But we damn sure need to not sit by while stuff like this goes on, or else you might as well just surrender to Russia now to stave off WW3 if you're going to be that much of a coward about it.
 
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Russia seems like the only rational actor. If Syria and Russia are both calling for an investigation, it make a ton of sense to do it. America is making assumptions and acting on them. That is irrational.



https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...yria-chemical-attack-with-call-for-un-inquiry

Oh please, they're doing it to try to prevent a retaliatory attack.

They tried to push conspiracy garbage for other blatant chemical weapon attacks too.

Its fine for you to say you don't want us fighting in Syria and getting more involved, but you're actively defending liars that have been seeding conspiracy and fabricating evidence (they did that when the plane in Ukraine got shot down, they did it again during some other chemical weapon attack that led to us blowing up that airstrip, which is why they're trying to do it again to prevent us from hitting them like that again).
 

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Obama weighing in on going into Syria and a chemical attack happens. Drumpf announces pulling out of Syria within months and within days of that announcement a chemical attack happens. What a coincidence.

I mean seroiusly. The two chemical attacks that have happened in this conflict revolve around two different presidents not wanting to get involved or leaving the area 6 years apart. The odds of that happening are astronomical.
 
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Also, US is not alone in calling for military action against Syria, France is fully backing the play as well. UK is on the fence though they said they would do what is necessary to stop the chemical strikes.

And Russia just veto'd the UN resolution to set up a new inquiry in Syria on the chemical strikes.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...a-chemical-weapons-inquiry-idUSKBN1HH37O?il=0

I thought they did want to investigate.