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NEVER EVER BUY PNY !!!!!!!!

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wacki

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Just thought I would warn all of you, even though PNY is pushed by Best Buy, Circuit City, and countless other stores, it is crap. I've installed installed a Geforce3 and a Geforce 4 video card on two different machines outfitted with ASUS A7N8X motherboards and high end 400+ watt powersupplies. I have powerconditioners, UPS's, and hardware monitoring software. My machines were not overclocked in anyway and were cooled using the best coolermaster heatsinks available. I am currently on my 6th RMA in eight months. Thats almost one failure a month!!! Also PNY customer service seems to be nothing more than computer touch tones, I had to email the sales department to get to tech support. Ontop of that they do not allow advanced RMA's. That means I've spent over 13 weeks total waiting for PNY to repair the video card. Thats a long time to wait if you don't have spare comuter parts. I finally gave in and replaced my PNY Geforce4 video card (that was 4 months old), with an ATI Radeon 9800 simply because I needed a working computer. I'm never buying PNY again, and I recommend BFG Tech or ASUS if your going Nvidia. They have humans, they have advanced RMA's, and they don't use generic parts.
 
?? I thougt flextronics makes just about all the cards, PNY and the rest just slap a sticker or glitzy fan on them

Sounds like you just had bad luck
 
My PNY GF3 Ti200 runs fine, OCed too. Nice and toasty, works fine. Never had a problem with it for the past 1 and half years.
 
Sh!t happens...deal with it.

I had to RMA an Asus TI4600 Ultra Deluxe (rare) 3 times in a 3 month period. Do you think that warrants a thread "NEVER EVER BUY ASUS !!!!!!!!"?
 
John, you are right. Maybe I over reacted. I was just angry PNY I had to go 13+ weeks (combined) without a video card(s). The lack of advanced RMA replacement from PNY is a huge pain. I have had to RMA an ASUS motherboard, and the difference was I didn't have to email them to find a human to talk to. ASUS does provide advance RMA, and so I didn't have to go more than a few days without a mobo.

I had the same experience with speakers. I dropped alot of money on infinity speakers and when a cone went bad I had to wait 9 weeks for before infinity would mail the local tech center a spare cone. I wasn't happy. My friend blew out a cone on a pair of Polk speakers and they overnighted a spare cone to him and guided him through the install on the phone. Now thats service.

Then again PNY isn't a top dollar item, but a Geforce4 Ti500 isn't cheap either, and but not everybody has spare video cards laying around, and two weeks is a long time to go without a computer. That won't happen with ASUS.

And yes it probably was bad luck, but seriously it can't cost them that much more to do the advanced RMA. Not when you take into account the business they lose from lack of service and the fact that they take your credit card number when you do an advanced RMA.

And yes I did have bad luck, but that doesn't excuse the service. Then again it is a free country and I do have the right to choose a different product. But at the same time I also have a right, and I feel a duty as a good semaritan, to warn others of my misgivings. Especially when my computer has been down more than it has been up. Am I wrong or am I right?
 
But to be fair to PNY when the card works it works well, and their tech support people were very nice and helpfull, when I could get ahold of them.
 
I've had a PNY GF4 Ti4600 in my system for over a year. It's performed flawlessly. I'd recommend, without hesitation, PNY video cards to anyone. I also have two IBM 75GXP's that have been running flawlessly for years. Maybe I just got lucky...
 
I've got some PNY PC133 with Micron chips that's been running for years.

Had a PNY GF4 Ti4200 from BB that did fine too.

It's the luck of the draw.
 
I've had several PNY video cards and memory products (PC133 SDRAM, PC2100/2700 DDR, RDRAM) and never had a problem.

You just had bad luck, thats all.
 
I have bought numerous PNY things because they were cheap and I have never had a problem. My GF3 Ti200 ran great and overclocked pretty well. I bought a cheapo stick of ram for my dad's temporary computer and never had problems. Their support was pretty good too.
 
Originally posted by: shuttleteam
The video cards are just REF boards...

PNY doesn't make the stuff.

Be careful, be content, be sound! 🙂

-DAK-
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Except the one thing they do, slap on the heatsink, they do wrong. They use crappy thermal epoxy and the HS barely touches the core, causing a LOT of units to have heat problems. I had 3 PNY geforce 3 Ti500s die on me because of this before i figured it out, now i remove the heatsink, lap it and the core, put on AS3 and reaatach the heatsink. Now have 13 or 14 working PNY geforce 3s out there.
 
MSI actually makes the PNY vid cards. My GF3 Ti200 is working fine, but it's showing it's age, and being left in the dust. I didnt order a PNY this time, because their "LIFETIME WARRANTY" is deceiving. It is only waranted until they stop stocking the cards, then the warranty is gone. So I got myself a Gainward, will be here on Thursday! 😀
 
Well at least (for the heat part) the GF FX is moving in the right direction. I have a 5900U that allows you to see your case temp and GPU core temp from the display properties sheet. The throttle back temperature threshold (nvidia default) is 140°C! :Q

I cannot ever imagine it getting that high, the highest I've seen is 61°C and that was after playing TW2003 for 1 1/2 hours. 🙂

-DAK-
 
I don't think your experience is typical, or else they would have been out of business a long time ago. With that said, my PNY GF4Ti4400 has worked without a hiccup for more than a year now, so I guess its just bad luck on your part.
 
I got one of the PNY Ti4200s a while back ($99 from CompUSA with a sale and rebates, which was an incredible price at the time). I got it because I was tired of waiting for Gainward to return my Ultra 650, which suffered from the "bad capacitor" problem that plagued dozens if not hundreds of owners of that card. (That was a huge thread at one time; it's since been fixed.) Every manufacturer has some junk that gets shipped every once in a while. If you buy enough computer stuff (and who here doesn't), you're bound to get "lucky" with a lemon every so often.

-cap
 
Originally posted by: neutralizer
My PNY GF3 Ti200 runs fine, OCed too. Nice and toasty, works fine. Never had a problem with it for the past 1 and half years.
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Ditto here with my GeF3 Ti200 from PNY. Can't say that it is the most rippin' of the GeForce3 Ti's, but it works like a charm.

 
Originally posted by: wacki
Just thought I would warn all of you, even though PNY is pushed by Best Buy, Circuit City, and countless other stores, it is crap. I've installed installed a Geforce3 and a Geforce 4 video card on two different machines outfitted with ASUS A7N8X motherboards and high end 400+ watt powersupplies. I have powerconditioners, UPS's, and hardware monitoring software. My machines were not overclocked in anyway and were cooled using the best coolermaster heatsinks available. I am currently on my 6th RMA in eight months. Thats almost one failure a month!!! Also PNY customer service seems to be nothing more than computer touch tones, I had to email the sales department to get to tech support. Ontop of that they do not allow advanced RMA's. That means I've spent over 13 weeks total waiting for PNY to repair the video card. Thats a long time to wait if you don't have spare comuter parts. I finally gave in and replaced my PNY Geforce4 video card (that was 4 months old), with an ATI Radeon 9800 simply because I needed a working computer. I'm never buying PNY again, and I recommend BFG Tech or ASUS if your going Nvidia. They have humans, they have advanced RMA's, and they don't use generic parts.
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well, for one what would having a high end coolermaster hSF (which is lowend compared to zalman or thermalright but that's another story) and what would the Mobo have to do with it? Plus the power conditioner and UPS wouldn't make a video card fail. Hardware monitoring software? That can tell you your video card is bad without a videocard to push a picture on the screen?
 
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