Never change, AMD marketing

[AtenRa]

For people that havent seen the first Advertisement,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUwjXQjQZZM

The one in the OP is the second part.

 

[AtenRa]

Well at least they're willing to admit it. Honestly, I liked the ad, but I dont think its going to convince anyone to buy their products. The performance speaks for itself.

The Battle is Lost for the 4 CPU COREs in the first Add against the application (Blue Monster Boss)

It has nothing to do with Actual CPU or APU performance.

Hint, Red CORE is iGPU

 

[escrow4]

*Snort*. An i3 with a dGPU is a better choice than an APU anyday and there is next to no reason to go with FX and AM3, and yet AMD spends time and money on these ads. This company is so lost on the CPU side it is most epic.

 

[AtenRa]

*Snort*. An i3 with a dGPU is a better choice than an APU anyday and there is next to no reason to go with FX and AM3, and yet AMD spends time and money on these ads. This company is so lost on the CPU side it is most epic.

Show me how many OEM Core i3 Desktop PCs comes with dGPUs. Just have a look at Newegg.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...CE&PageSize=20

At the same price point the A10-7800 is way better all around product than Haswell Core i3. The problem is not the performance of the product, the problem is with OEMs and Intels rebates.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Show me how many OEM Core i3 Desktop PCs comes with dGPUs. Just have a look at Newegg.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...CE&PageSize=20

At the same price point the A10-7800 is way better all around product than Haswell Core i3. The problem is not the performance of the product, the problem is with OEMs and Intels rebates.

The problem is the APU itself. Even beaten by products of its own company.

You can try and blame everyone else than AMD. But besides the IGP, everything else about that CPU is a complete disaster.

 

[NostaSeronx]

Anyone want make bets for which this video is for?

Accelerated APUs -> Traditionally the A-series.
or
Accelerated SOCs -> Traditionally the FX-series/Opteron-series.

If it is a discrete GPU HSA enabled Accelerated FX CPU. Hopefully, they would target Q2 2015. (Like Q2 for 2011... http://www.techpowerup.com/135075/zambezi-am3-core-logic-slated-for-q2-2011.html )

HSA via discrete implementation would revive/evolve the traditional market. My expectation for the socket if traditional FX/Opteron CPU;

- LGA 23xx / Socket GX -
-> DDR4 Quad-channel (Enterprise -> Up to 16 DIMMs via GXMX / Enthusiast -> 4 DIMMs)
-> No VRMs or some VRMs on board / Integrated Voltage Regulation
-> 4*10/2*20 in Hypertransport Expansion 4.0 mode or 4*8/2*16 in PCI Express 3.0/4.0 mode.
-> Fully loaded with SATA Express, and USB3.1, 4x 1 GbE or 2x 10 GbE / No Southbridge on Motherboard (In package or on die)

1P Enthusiast Consumer Options.
1P - 2P Entry Enterprise Options.
2P - 4P HPC/Enterprise Options.

 

[flash43]

Ahh another one of them? IMO AMD need to focus on improving PR and marketing slightly. I still have not recovered from the "something new is coming" FX teaser on Twitter.

 

[SAAA]

Interesting bits: look at the HUD interface when first person, the APU cores are actually running at 4.4GHz turbo vs 4GHz for Kaveri (and they are Kaveri based because you see HSA in the left too). So beside the weird marketing are they actually announcing faster APUs? Maybe water cooled too? Heck like FX 9xxx all the way up with the TDP!

 

[Tsavo]

Does this mean that AMD is actually going to improve their core architecture instead of trying to throw more outdated processor cores at the problem?

I think what it means is that they will Performance Ratings.

I, for one, am looking forward to an AMD K12 PR 4400+ FX.

edit: forgot where the "+" goes.

 

[mrmt]

Can it reach the space?

 

[NostaSeronx]

Can it reach the space?

It will probably reach the Hyperspace.:sneaky:

 

[ninaholic37]

Anyone want make bets for which this video is for?

Accelerated APUs -> Traditionally the A-series.
or
Accelerated SOCs -> Traditionally the FX-series/Opteron-series.

The red robot in the second video is definitely smaller than the fat ones in the first. It kinda looks like he's a combination of the gray and the red ones. Maybe they're talking about ARM servers in 2014?

 

[NostaSeronx]

The Return: AMD CORE Evolution

Looking at the unit;
Red/Black/Gray -> FX Colors
Sword from the CPU Core
Gun from the GPU Core

http://sites.amd.com/us/promo/processors/Pages/operation-scorpius.aspx
"Operation Scorpius – The Legend of FX Returns"
http://sites.amd.com/PublishingImag...trations/comic_gallery/amd_fx_comic_pg_10.jpg
// I still gag and cringe everytime.

The only time they have used "Return" is when talking about FX. Unless, they are talking about bringing back the Phenom, Sempron, Athlon, names back.

Hoping it is FX so we can get "Project Phoenix" with the FX squad //cringe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxW_0nYi-gg

Old designs;
http://i.imgur.com/f65mamb.jpg

New design;
http://i.imgur.com/B9id7Az.jpg

Previous designs had the CPU cores being smaller "Tron-ish" humanoids and the GPU cores being bulky "Warhammer-ish" or things from "Fifth Element-ish" humanoids. With the CPU cores having a sword or two swords or an energy whip. Then, there is the GPU cores with a large fictional weapon.

The new design has a smaller humanoid with a sword in the right and an arm integrated smaller fictional weapon in the left.

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Theories;
"Carrizo" since the first one was for "Richland" then this must be about "Carrizo."

Year 2012;

http://www.linkedin.com/in/jeanchittilappilly

Working on verifying AMD's coherent hyper transport fabric for Radeon & APU products

https://www.google.com/patents/US20140143565

Level-two cache in processor is shared by CPU core and GPU core and includes memory circuits (e.g., one or more of SRAM, DRAM, DDR SDRAM, and/or other types of memory circuits) that are used for storing instructions and data that are used by CPU core and GPU core, respectively, for performing computational operations. L2 cache is larger than L1 caches and and is located outside, but close to, CPU core and GPU core (e.g., on a same semiconductor die). Because L2 cache is located outside the cores, access to the instructions and data stored in L2 cache is slower than accesses to L1 caches.

L3 cache is shared by CPU core and GPU core and includes memory circuits (e.g., one or more of static random access memory (SRAM), dynamic random access memory (DRAM), double data rate synchronous DRAM (DDR SDRAM), and/or other types of memory circuits) that are used for storing instructions and data that are used by CPU core and GPU core, respectively, for performing computational operations. L3 cache is larger than L1 caches and L2 caches and is located outside processor (e.g., on a different semiconductor die). Because L3 cache is located outside processor, access to the instructions and data stored in L3 cache is slower than accesses to the other caches.

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/david-li/1/689/33

January 2011 – December 2012 (2 years)
Project Excavator (XV)

http://in.linkedin.com/pub/rammohan-k/12/789/2b5

July 2012 – May 2013 (11 months)
Excavator core verificaion: 4th generation of Bulldozer core. Owned cache/TLB preloading component in verif environment. Involved in core-debug.

Also same time frames as above;
http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/seng-oon-toh/36/20/583

March 2011 – August 2013 (2 years 6 months)
Process technology optimization for 20nm Accelerated Processing Units (APU).

Coincidence that Excavator and these patents and developments happened near each other? I think not cuz aliens and nostradamus.

 

[blastingcap]

As dumb as that was, it's not as awkwardly bad as AMD's The Fixer videos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eH6XayaLTw8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vr-P9xcifT4

 

[cytg111]

I think not cuz aliens and nostradamus..

- Everything this man says is gospel truth. I am buying it. Ill take one plz

 

[Arachnotronic]

As dumb as that was, it's not as awkwardly bad as AMD's The Fixer videos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eH6XayaLTw8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vr-P9xcifT4

"The Fixer" seems like a lousy version of Mad Mod Mike.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf2gAID7JSc

 

[ninaholic37]

The only time they have used "Return" is when talking about FX. Unless, they are talking about bringing back the Phenom, Sempron, Athlon, names back.

I don't think Steamroller changes the CMT-module idea, and Excavator won't be out until 2015-2016 right? Perhaps that is why the video is entited "Prologue/Evolution". At the end of the video it says "AMD A-Series" though.

 

[NostaSeronx]

I don't think Steamroller changes the CMT-module idea, and Excavator won't be out until 2015-2016 right? Perhaps that is why the video is entited "Prologue/Evolution". At the end of the video it says "AMD A-Series" though.

I think Kaveri's delay from 2013 to 2014 has not delayed Carrizo from launching.

My guess: Carrizo Desktop is launching sometime around October 2014.

 

[master_shake_]

probably rendered on an intel machine

*ducks*

 

[Dahak]

probably rendered on an intel machine

*ducks*

or to add a bit of fuel to it, an intel based mac

 

[DrMrLordX]

I think Kaveri's delay from 2013 to 2014 has not delayed Carrizo from launching.

My guess: Carrizo Desktop is launching sometime around October 2014.

Uh, you sure about that? I thought it was Q1 2015 according to AMD slides?

 

[NostaSeronx]

Uh, you sure about that? I thought it was Q1 2015 according to AMD slides?

Even though the original FX-8150 and FX-8350 came out respectively each in Q4 2011/2012.

The FX-8150 processor was considered a 2012 product.
The FX-8350 processor was considered a 2013 product.
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Also, the maximum density between APU K processors are 9 months.

A10-5800K - October 2nd, 2012
= 8 months, 3 days =>
A10-6800K - June 4th, 2013
= 7 months, 11 days =>
A10-7850K - January 4th, 2014

The maximum density between two K products; Llano A8-3870K and Trinity A10-5800K is only 9 months, 13 days.

Now if we add 9 months to January;
Tuesday, October 14, 2014

or 10 months to January;
Friday, November 14, 2014

^== There is the range for the Carrizo, A10-8850K. (Hope, they come out with a new scheme)

 

[Ajay]

Clearly a play on Tron, and well done IMO. Sure it won't appeal to the mainstream, neither did Tron Legacy or Tron (the original), but it did have its appeal to a certain demographic and that was all it took for a remake to be funded

I thought it was a Tron meets Warframe vibe.
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As far as 'core' goes, AMD means system core; from Tron - no TM violation.

 

[Ajay]

^== There is the range for the Carrizo, A10-8850K. (Hope, they come out with a new scheme)

A11-8850K. Then AMD can advertise with "This one goes to eleven", combined with some good Rock tune and better visual FX than the last vid, I think it'd be a winner

 

[NostaSeronx]

A11-8850K. Then AMD can advertise with "This one goes to eleven", combined with some good Rock tune and better visual FX than the last vid, I think it'd be a winner

Why not advertise with "This one goes to fifteen", then call it the A15-850K.

Also, you know it can go to 15 watts unlike Kaveri.