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Network study

NoStateofMind

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I have been lurking in the networking subforum here lately with my recent drive to educate myself. What would you guys suggest I start with? Network+? Then what would be after that? CCNA? CCNP? Not really sure how the progression should go. What books? CBT Nuggets? Thanks for any help guys (gals).
 
Ok first you have to start off with A+, i am a lecturer at a tertiary institution and teach A+, N+, MCSE, and i am all those certified, and i suggest taking it in the path mentioned, and the CompTIA A+ and N+ arfe decent, but i have only used the Microsoft Books for the MCSE module and have no regrets at all, and they are really good btw, but nuggets teach you how to perform a lot of the very complicated functions and show you how to do things, such as what RDP is and what version it is, and how to setup RAID, nuggets are excellent to refresh your knowledge on certain aspects too, but take that path if i were you, you can tjust do N+ and expect to know how it all works, A+ and N+ are the basics, and MCSE is the server side, from there you go to CCNA etc
 
Do you have some feel for what area of network-related study you're most interested in?

Under the umbrella of "Computers & Networking" there are quite a few more specific areas, like LAN, WAN, Application, Security, Wireless, Desktop, Database Administration, VoIP, Servers/Platforms, Service Administration, Cabling & Infrastructure (with a possible sub in Optical {SONET, DWDM}) ...

Then under those general categories, there are a number of subordinate skill sets that may or may not be careers in themselves.

In a large enterprise, you'll find departments for each of most of the above. In a smaller organization, you'll find "the two network guys" and they handle everything, or they handle company-critical stuff and the rest is outsourced.

Most of the above-listed have specific certifications.


For general networking in an average company, Cisco Certifications tend to be the standard for network infrastructure, even if the company is not running Cisco stuff.

Microsoft certs tend to be requested for Platform, OS, core application, programming, database , network administration, and Exchange email.

Nortel also has some excellent certs, including PBX and VoIP, real time, and general switch/router infrastructure. There mesh wireless is very popular for metro wireless applications.

Planet3 has generic (Non vendor specific) certifications for wireless CWNA, CWNP, CWSP and they are excellent programs and well-recognized

The CompTIA courses / certs are generic and cover the basics pretty well. They are less known to HR, so they tend to not show up on job postings.

I'd forget security for a while ... you can learn it, but most companies are not going to put their security in the hands of a relative newcomer. Once you get some time under your belt then you are more likely trust your judgment and skills. There is a pretty broad spectrum of security certifications; the lowest ones are "difficult."

Juniper has some classes & certs, they tend to be advanced because (except for the smaller firewalls) Juniper tends to be in or near the core or high-capacity edge.

Anyway ... (pardon the ramble) ... it would be helpful if you could narrow things down a little.

The most-traveled path (IMO) tends to be CCNA, CCNP (possibly followed by CCDA, CCDP) with a possible MCSE for admin (SQL2K and Exchange electives) and now some sort of wireless and some sort of security (PIX, ASA, Linux-based) to round out the semi-perfect all-around network kinda person.

Supplementing all of the above, it is generally helpful to have some background with *nix (Solaris, Red Hat Enterprise, Suse Enterprise, AIX, HP(s)ux) ) and some scripting knowledge (Perl, Python, VBscript, shell scripting, etc).

Finally, to round out my blathering, it's easy to get caught up in the certification stuff such that you end up working to pass the cert, not genuinely learn the background and concepts.
You will ultimately be a better engineer (if that's your intent) if you consider the certs as milestones, not goals. Don't try to squeeze by with minimal knowledge, especially of foundational topics (like sub-netting and the operational aspect of Ethernet).

All the stuff you learn at the beginning will continually re-emerge in more complex configurations later on; understanding them to some depth at the beginning will help you to figure out the workings of things you never saw before ... and resolve the problem.

Good Luck
Scott







 
Originally posted by: VulcanX
Ok first you have to start off with A+, i am a lecturer at a tertiary institution and teach A+, N+, MCSE, and i am all those certified, and i suggest taking it in the path mentioned, and the CompTIA A+ and N+ arfe decent, but i have only used the Microsoft Books for the MCSE module and have no regrets at all, and they are really good btw, but nuggets teach you how to perform a lot of the very complicated functions and show you how to do things, such as what RDP is and what version it is, and how to setup RAID, nuggets are excellent to refresh your knowledge on certain aspects too, but take that path if i were you, you can tjust do N+ and expect to know how it all works, A+ and N+ are the basics, and MCSE is the server side, from there you go to CCNA etc

You have those certs, AND teach...yet you ask this?? I hope that topic was just a joke then..

PC Surgeon: Start with Network+, just read through it to get the basics down. Courses cost more than their worth. A+ is pretty much worthless at this point, unless you come across an employer that still thinks that it's worth something.
 
Originally posted by: ch33zw1z
Originally posted by: VulcanX
Ok first you have to start off with A+, i am a lecturer at a tertiary institution and teach A+, N+, MCSE, and i am all those certified, and i suggest taking it in the path mentioned, and the CompTIA A+ and N+ arfe decent, but i have only used the Microsoft Books for the MCSE module and have no regrets at all, and they are really good btw, but nuggets teach you how to perform a lot of the very complicated functions and show you how to do things, such as what RDP is and what version it is, and how to setup RAID, nuggets are excellent to refresh your knowledge on certain aspects too, but take that path if i were you, you can tjust do N+ and expect to know how it all works, A+ and N+ are the basics, and MCSE is the server side, from there you go to CCNA etc

You have those certs, AND teach...yet you ask this??

wow. fail.
 
A+ seems pretty easy. Without much study I'm getting a passing grade (70%). I only want this so I can immediately pursue repair opportunities in my area instead of single digit hourly wages at restaurants/gas stations/normal customer service jobs (patooy!). Basic understanding of Networking (Network+) would help give me a "ground floor" entry into helping people with networks. Basically these two Certifications opens the door for my own user based business with better pay. Once I have that established I will seek MCSE, CCNA, and CCNP.

I have a question to add. What are these "electives" I keep hearing about? Do having multiple Certifications give you a new alphabet soup title?
 
Electives are "slots" within the curriculum with optional topics (mandatory that you must choose *something*, but you can select from a menu of available topics.

For MCSE there use to be the "Core Four" - topics and tests you must take regardless of of the ultimate certification and three electives with topics like 'Internet," "MS Exchange,"MS SQL2000," "SAN,"WAN" ... whatever. I never chased a Microsoft cert ...

 
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