Network optimization aka we are going to throttle your data use

[sze5003]

People with Verizon and unlimited data should think about switching to a cheaper mvno carrier anyway. Since they will effectively throttle now starting in August and soon implement it in October, might as well not pay $83 a month for one phone.

http://m-support.verizonwireless.com/mobl/features.info_data_disclosure.tp_2.html

 

[vi edit]

Says only 3G customers affected. So in Verizons case you are just going from slow to even slower.

 

[sze5003]

I had an article about 4g as well. Need to find it on my phone. It will affect everyone. I'm sure there aren't many 3g users congesting the network as much as 4g.

 

[dlock13]

Here's one.

 

[sze5003]

Yea I use about 4-5gb a month just travelling and streaming Pandora in the car to and from. Work has WiFi but won't allow us to connect to it. Better to get a gsm phone and use striaghtalk or any other mvno because tmobile and att have good coverage where I live.

 

[vi edit]

Straight talk isn't going to help you. After 2.5gig they throttle and/or disconnect you.

If you are doing pandora streaming you won't see a negative effect with the throttle. Streaming music is pretty light all things considered.

It's time to accept that that all you can eat buffet is coming to and end. I'm just surprised that it took this long. I'm sure most of the time was spent with Verizon's lawyers looking over contracts with a magnifying glass for all loopholes and vauge wordings that will allow them to do it.

 

[sze5003]

Straight talk isn't going to help you. After 2.5gig they throttle and/or disconnect you.

If you are doing pandora streaming you won't see a negative effect with the throttle. Streaming music is pretty light all things considered.

It's time to accept that that all you can eat buffet is coming to and end. I'm just surprised that it took this long. I'm sure most of the time was spent with Verizon's lawyers looking over contracts with a magnifying glass for all loopholes and vauge wordings that will allow them to do it.

Yea but if I'm going to get throttled I might as well pay $45 a month vs the $83 on Verizon. The only other option is metro pcs and their coverage is fine where I live but I would rather not use their bad phones.

 

[s44]

The only other option is metro pcs and their coverage is fine where I live but I would rather not use their bad phones.

GhettoPCS got bought out by T-Mo, so you can use all T-Mo devices (which, given the refarm, means basically every Verizon LTE and unlocked AT&T as well).

 

[vi edit]

Cricket wireless is $55 a month for 5gb of data. It's $10 for every gig after that. That's on AT&T network now.

 

[Red Storm]

Cricket wireless is $55 a month for 5gb of data. It's $10 for every gig after that. That's on AT&T network now.

That's pretty good.

T-Mobile does offer true unlimited data for those who need it. I started out with unlimited on T-Mobile, and did test it by using over ~100GB over the first few months, but my normal mobile data usage has really gone down over time, to the point where I dropped the unlimited and make do with the free 1GB you get.

 

[sze5003]

GhettoPCS got bought out by T-Mo, so you can use all T-Mo devices (which, given the refarm, means basically every Verizon LTE and unlocked AT&T as well).

You can take a Verizon 4g phone to metro and get lte? I would imagine only metro and tmobile phones are able to get lte in metro pcs.

 

[paperwastage]

You can take a Verizon 4g phone to metro and get lte? I would imagine only metro and tmobile phones are able to get lte in metro pcs.

Recently (past 1-3 years), Verizon's LTE phones come with GSM legacy support and are unlocked (meaning you can put a AT&T/T-mobile/ANY GSM sim card in, and have it work)

iPhone 5S, S5, S4, Droid DNA, ... a lot of phones work

metroPCS and t-mobile are merging their GSM/LTE networks, and metro's CDMA network is going away. basically, treat metro as though it were a GSM provider (can BYOD, do anything)




you just need to check whether the bands are compatible.

2G- typically all phones are quad-band GSM, and would work

3G- T-mobile(and metroPCS) uses AWS, some phones don't support AWS 3G. also, some phones don't support the DC-HSPA 42mbps network that t-mobile uses (you should still get 3G up to 21mbps)

4G LTE - t-mobile uses bands 2, 4(AWS, 1900PCS) and 12... verizon uses 4 and 17. you should be able to get band 4 LTE at minimum

VoLTE - verizon doesn't have VoLTE support yet (and since they approve all phone updates, no Verizon phones support VoLTE yet)

 

[notposting]

It's not that bad, compared to what it could be (though still a step in the wrong direction):

http://www.droid-life.com/2014/07/2...mes-to-unlimited-4g-lte-customers-in-october/

In order to see slowed speeds under Network Optimization, you have to meet the following criteria:

Top 5% of data users (you use 4.7GB of data per month or more)
Enrolled on an unlimited data plan or feature
Have fulfilled their minimum contract term
Are attempting to use data on a cell site that is experiencing high demand

MORE Everything and other tiered data plans are not affected.

Official link: http://www.verizonwireless.com/support/information/data_disclosure.html

(if you read it, once you get onto the "list" you will be "optimized" for that cycle and usually the next, but still only on high demand towers. Will be interesting to see what the effect is, speed wise)

<-- this guy is going to use more than 4.7GB next weekend when traveling and tethering with the family. Probably in September as well.

EDIT: $98 for family plan with 2 phones, 500 minutes shared, free N&W, free calls to VZW, 250 texts/unlimited on my line, 1000 texts on her line.

 

[dguy6789]

Straight talk isn't going to help you. After 2.5gig they throttle and/or disconnect you.

It's 3.5GB now and they only throttle after that, they don't disconnect and they support ATT's LTE.

 

[sze5003]

Recently (past 1-3 years), Verizon's LTE phones come with GSM legacy support and are unlocked (meaning you can put a AT&T/T-mobile/ANY GSM sim card in, and have it work)

iPhone 5S, S5, S4, Droid DNA, ... a lot of phones work

metroPCS and t-mobile are merging their GSM/LTE networks, and metro's CDMA network is going away. basically, treat metro as though it were a GSM provider (can BYOD, do anything)




you just need to check whether the bands are compatible.

2G- typically all phones are quad-band GSM, and would work

3G- T-mobile(and metroPCS) uses AWS, some phones don't support AWS 3G. also, some phones don't support the DC-HSPA 42mbps network that t-mobile uses (you should still get 3G up to 21mbps)

4G LTE - t-mobile uses bands 2, 4(AWS, 1900PCS) and 12... verizon uses 4 and 17. you should be able to get band 4 LTE at minimum

VoLTE - verizon doesn't have VoLTE support yet (and since they approve all phone updates, no Verizon phones support VoLTE yet)

I know the droid DNA works with tmobile and att SIM card. I tried it and got hspa speeds which were good. My HTC one also from Verizon only got edge data.

Need to specifically check the band's and make sure that the Verizon phone has both gsm bands not just one of them.