Network Admin Job Titles

Poontos

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Is there a more appropriate title for one of these:

Intermediate Network Administrator

Intermediate Systems Engineer

Intermediate Systems Manager

Junior Systems Manager

Junior Network Administrator

**Someone that is one below the Senior Systems Manager/Administrator.
 

spidey07

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PC technitian
Intern (bwahahahaha) :)
Network Manager

All of these titles generally work for the support Manager/help desk.
 

wolf31o2

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Usually, I would find that a person directly below the "senior" position has no prefix to their position.

Senior Network Administrator -> Network Administrator -> Junior Network Administrator

I definitely have not seen anyone called Intermediate anything. Also, a technician is definitely not an administrator.
 

Saltin

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In my deptartment they are called "gophers"

Like they gopher coffee, they gopher parts pick ups, etc.;)
 

spidey07

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:)

Saltin, I guess you saw the "Intern" job title? I can't say on the board what we really call them.

Generally if "Manager" is in the title then you are actually a manager and have folks directly reporting to you. So all the little grunts report to the "Network Manager" or "Manager of Network Systems".

Network Administrators are generally "administrators" in that they handle new user requests, user rights and changes.
 

Oaf357

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Never seen Intermediate before on a job title either.

Assistant, Junior, Apprentice, etc. I've seen.

But the best example so far was the Senior NA, NA, and Junior NA. That works just about everywhere.
 

mboy

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Funny I just had to redo my job description for my position for the 5th time now.

I am the plain old Network admin since I am the only one even remotely capable of admining either a server or my LAN (and WAn router and firewall) in my 2 person IS dept.

GUess that makes me the senior altho they make me feel like I am the Network B!tch!
 

Oaf357

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Originally posted by: mboy
Funny I just had to redo my job description for my position for the 5th time now.

I am the plain old Network admin since I am the only one even remotely capable of admining either a server or my LAN (and WAn router and firewall) in my 2 person IS dept.

GUess that makes me the senior altho they make me feel like I am the Network B!tch!

Eh, attach senior to it. Then at least you'll be the senior b!tch.
 

Garion

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What, exactly do you mean? There's HUGE difference in how titles are used. Some companies hire a "network engineer" to run their servers. Others only give that title to their network infrastructure guys and call the others system engineers.

At my last job (Managed the network infrastructure team), I used the following titles for staff, based on their level of expertise:

Network Administrator - Busy work, some troubleshooting, switch port configs, cabling, etc.
Network Analyst - Implementation, more complex troubleshooting, etc.
Network Engineer - High-level troubleshooting, design, mentoring of others, etc.
Network Architect - Focused on design and hand-off to engineers and Analysts for implementation and ongoing operation.

- G
 

mboy

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Originally posted by: Garion
What, exactly do you mean? There's HUGE difference in how titles are used. Some companies hire a "network engineer" to run their servers. Others only give that title to their network infrastructure guys and call the others system engineers.

At my last job (Managed the network infrastructure team), I used the following titles for staff, based on their level of expertise:

Network Administrator - Busy work, some troubleshooting, switch port configs, cabling, etc.
Network Analyst - Implementation, more complex troubleshooting, etc.
Network Engineer - High-level troubleshooting, design, mentoring of others, etc.
Network Architect - Focused on design and hand-off to engineers and Analysts for implementation and ongoing operation.

- G


What would u call a guy like me who does EVERYTHING computer/network/server related for a company with a 65 Node LAN, 3 NT servers, 3 unix servers and a Fractional T1 :)-yup, B!tch, thought so!

My boss who is director of IS cant install windows ( not even 95 and didnt even kno0w how to fdisk a hard drive), a scanner. Dont even ask about the time she had to bring in her personal PC because it wouldnt turn on after she installed her own cd burner. Had to explain the power button turns the computer on, not the reset button. We know what to call her :)
 

mboy

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You may have thought of something else to call her when she asked you to set up a profile on a WinXP pro machine because she didnt know how (yup, just type in your username and password).
All she does is run reports for other people on an ANTIQAUTED ERP system. NO techinical training and NO education, just a glorified Admin assistant, but they had to give her the job 'cause everyone else who was qualified quit many moons ago.
 

spidey07

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:)

Get over it!

IT is a thankless job. But DAMN it pays good. Many people outside our field don't know just how good.
 

mboy

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Um, unfortunately, mine dont pay that good about 15-20% below the avg for my position in my area code on salary.com, but I do love what I do, just not where I do it, hehehe. Gitta start somewhere tho :)
 

Armoth

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Every environment is different of course. The management where I work likes to play musical titles I guess. One minute we are the IT dept. next we're IS dept. and then they go and mix up all the subgroups to "break down barriers" and make our "work processes flow more smoothly and efficiently." I just love having non-technical people managing technical people. It makes things ever so much more exciting.

:frown:
 

Santa

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Information System Specialist reminds me of Business Analysts.

Wonder if they are the same..

I too have only seen Senior NA and Jr NA and PC Break/Fix or MicroComputer Specialists..

hehe specialists makes it sound like they know what they are doing now don't it.

Just hate people who can't walk the walk.. but yet can sure talk the talk.
 

Soybomb

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What would u call a guy like me who does EVERYTHING computer/network/server related for a company with a 65 Node LAN, 3 NT servers, 3 unix servers and a Fractional T1 :)-yup, B!tch, thought so!
I'd call that underworked ;)

I do like the title network bitch though, although not near enough people use it :D

In my opinion if you're aren't the "senior cart pusher" you're the "cart pusher", etc. I see no reason to add junior, apprentice, padawan learner or anything else to it unless there are 2 other levels of that position above you.
 

Buddha Bart

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yea the completely random titles make it difficult to job search.

I'd like something thats a network administrator in a mid-size company. I'd even be willing to be a network/server admin combo. But I do NOT want to be a "so and so called, go install the new printer driver on their desktop" helpdesk guy.

Basically, I want a CCNA job, not an A+ job.

bart
 

SaigonK

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My official title was Business Systems Analyst, now after a promotion and some re-orgs..I am called "intermediate network engineer" go figure. :)



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What would u call a guy like me who does EVERYTHING computer/network/server related for a company with a 65 Node LAN, 3 NT servers, 3 unix servers and a Fractional T1 :)-yup, B!tch, thought so!
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65 node lan eh? 3 unix boxes? 3 NT servers? I would kill for that type of setup...talk about being able to play golf all day. :D J/K

Try a 700 node LAN (just in the main headquarters building) 120 2K servers, 25 citrix servers, wireless lan, vpn, about 20 remote offices around the world...
Man..I am the b!tch and i didnt even know it! :)
 

mboy

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I would luv to be in that type of enviornment :)
I Imagine their is more then just u responsible for all that right?
 

SaigonK

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That was just the beginning of our network. :)
I am sure there are bigger ones out there being run by other people.

We also have a Netware 5.1 cluster, a Windows 2000 Advanced Server cluster, A Netware 6 apache server, netware 6 backup server, Netware ZFD server, Netware border manager server, netware ichain server, working on our netware ifolder and iprint server as we speak.
Add to that our manufacturing plant acorss town that houses about 1000 nodes, and all of their servers...about 50 netware boxes to be exact.

There are 3 of us responsible for the 100+ 2k Servers, the 25 Citrix servers, the two cluster servers, all the netware servers, the LAN, the wireless LAN, internal VPN solution, remote offices, etc. etc.

I can say that I enjoy it entirely, it is quite a diverse enviornment, and as such there is a ton that can be learned!