Netscape is TOAST!

[Scarpozzi]

IE is going to be shipping with AOL in future releases!

Link

 

[n0cmonkey]

Its amazing what $750 million will get you.

 

[Schadenfroh]

pay them to use your software???????

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

Netscape is mostly just mozilla anyways. Anyone today who thinks "netscape sucks" or whatever is stuck in 1998.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey
Netscape is mostly just mozilla anyways. Anyone today who thinks "netscape sucks" or whatever is stuck in 1998.

Don't you mean firebird? Or is there another new name this week?

I'm curious where the Mozilla name originated. I'm guessing it has a long history, since it is mentioned in pretty much every browser, IIRC.

 

[Chadder007]

What's mentioned in every browser is Mosaic, not Mozilla. FireBird > *

 

[Spyro]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey
Netscape is mostly just mozilla anyways. Anyone today who thinks "netscape sucks" or whatever is stuck in 1998.

Don't you mean firebird? Or is there another new name this week?

I'm curious where the Mozilla name originated. I'm guessing it has a long history, since it is mentioned in pretty much every browser, IIRC.

I thought it was just a clever play on "godzilla". I'm not really to sure about its origins though.

 

[MrChad]

Originally posted by: Chadder007
What's mentioned in every browser is Mosaic, not Mozilla. FireBird > *

Well, my IE browser sends this as a user-agent identity

Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0; .NET CLR 1.0.3705)

 

[Spyro]

A quick googlization of the name reveals this usenet thread with the answer.

And the beast shall come forth surrounded by a roiling cloud of
vengeance. The house of the unbelievers shall be razed and they shall be
scorched to the earth. Their tags shall blink until the end of days.
(from The Book of Mozilla, 12:10)

And the beast shall be made legion. Its numbers shall be increased a
thousand thousand fold. The din of a million keyboards like unto a great
storm shall cover the earth, and the followers of Mammon shall tremble.
from The Book of Mozilla, 3:31

😛

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: MrChad

Originally posted by: Chadder007
What's mentioned in every browser is Mosaic, not Mozilla. FireBird > *

Well, my IE browser sends this as a user-agent identity

Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0; .NET CLR 1.0.3705)

That's what I mean 🙂

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

Yes, all browsers send Mozilla/* user agents, as far back as NS2 or earlier. Mosaic is not mentioned in any browser user agent except for Mosaic 😉

edit: couple examples:

Mozilla/2.0 (compatible; MSIE 2.0; Windows 3.11; DigExt)
Mozilla/2.0S (X11; I; IRIX 6.2 IP22)
Mozilla/2.0 (compatible; MS FrontPage 4.0)
Mozilla/2.0 (compatible; MSIE 3.01; Windows 95)

The Mozilla/* thing doesn't seem to go back any earlier than netscape 2.

Don't you mean firebird? Or is there another new name this week?

The mozilla project is the mozilla project, their main browser was mozilla for a long time, now it's firebird, but it is "Mozilla Firebird". Mozilla is the project, firebird is their browser.

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

Originally posted by: Spyro
A quick googlization of the name reveals this usenet thread with the answer.

And the beast shall come forth surrounded by a roiling cloud of
vengeance. The house of the unbelievers shall be razed and they shall be
scorched to the earth. Their tags shall blink until the end of days.
(from The Book of Mozilla, 12:10)

And the beast shall be made legion. Its numbers shall be increased a
thousand thousand fold. The din of a million keyboards like unto a great
storm shall cover the earth, and the followers of Mammon shall tremble.
from The Book of Mozilla, 3:31

😛

go to "about:mozilla" in a gecko browser. 🙂

 

[Spyro]

Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey

Originally posted by: Spyro
A quick googlization of the name reveals this usenet thread with the answer.

And the beast shall come forth surrounded by a roiling cloud of
vengeance. The house of the unbelievers shall be razed and they shall be
scorched to the earth. Their tags shall blink until the end of days.
(from The Book of Mozilla, 12:10)

And the beast shall be made legion. Its numbers shall be increased a
thousand thousand fold. The din of a million keyboards like unto a great
storm shall cover the earth, and the followers of Mammon shall tremble.
from The Book of Mozilla, 3:31

😛

go to "about:mozilla" in a gecko browser. 🙂

Mozilla 1.3.1

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030521 Debian/1.3.1-1

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

Originally posted by: Spyro

Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey

Originally posted by: Spyro
A quick googlization of the name reveals this usenet thread with the answer.

And the beast shall come forth surrounded by a roiling cloud of
vengeance. The house of the unbelievers shall be razed and they shall be
scorched to the earth. Their tags shall blink until the end of days.
(from The Book of Mozilla, 12:10)

And the beast shall be made legion. Its numbers shall be increased a
thousand thousand fold. The din of a million keyboards like unto a great
storm shall cover the earth, and the followers of Mammon shall tremble.
from The Book of Mozilla, 3:31

😛

go to "about:mozilla" in a gecko browser. 🙂

Mozilla 1.3.1

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030521 Debian/1.3.1-1

Interesting, maybe they took it out in newer versions. Here in 1.0x I get a red screen with white text saying:

And the beast shall be made legion. Its numbers shall be increased a thousand thousand fold. The din of a million keyboards like unto a great storm shall cover the earth, and the followers of Mammon shall tremble.
from The Book of Mozilla, 3:31
(Red Letter Edition)

 

[Spyro]

Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey

Originally posted by: Spyro

Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey

Originally posted by: Spyro
A quick googlization of the name reveals this usenet thread with the answer.

And the beast shall come forth surrounded by a roiling cloud of
vengeance. The house of the unbelievers shall be razed and they shall be
scorched to the earth. Their tags shall blink until the end of days.
(from The Book of Mozilla, 12:10)

And the beast shall be made legion. Its numbers shall be increased a
thousand thousand fold. The din of a million keyboards like unto a great
storm shall cover the earth, and the followers of Mammon shall tremble.
from The Book of Mozilla, 3:31

😛

go to "about:mozilla" in a gecko browser. 🙂

Mozilla 1.3.1

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030521 Debian/1.3.1-1

Interesting, maybe they took it out in newer versions. Here in 1.0x I get a red screen with white text saying:

And the beast shall be made legion. Its numbers shall be increased a thousand thousand fold. The din of a million keyboards like unto a great storm shall cover the earth, and the followers of Mammon shall tremble.
from The Book of Mozilla, 3:31
(Red Letter Edition)

I think that I remember that being there in earlier versions too 😕

 

[MrChad]

Interesting read on user agent strings

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

Originally posted by: MrChad
Interesting read on user agent strings

Cool, interesting indeed. This has been a work in progress of mine for a while now but has TONS of different user agents (and my attempts to identify all of the legit ones). The page is something like 1.4MB though, and I'm on 128k cable, so it'll take a long time to totally load.

 

[Spyro]

Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey

Originally posted by: MrChad
Interesting read on user agent strings

Cool, interesting indeed. This has been a work in progress of mine for a while now but has TONS of different user agents (and my attempts to identify all of the legit ones). The page is something like 1.4MB though, and I'm on 128k cable, so it'll take a long time to totally load.

Nice 😀

 

[yukichigai]

At one point I think I knew the origin of the Mozilla name but I've forgotten it like so many other things.

Anyway, Mozilla has always been the source of every Netscape browser for... erm... forever I think. And to my knowledge Mozilla isn't owned by AOL. If any of you get homesick for Netscape (assuming it goes away) just get Mozilla, since it's very damn similar but with a lot more features. (Can we say popup blocker?)

Oh, Firebird is just the name given to the browser itself, kind of like Navigator is the name given to the Netscape browser. As far as I can tell anyway. I have yet to find any real differences in the browser you get with the full Mozilla suite and the standalone Firebird.

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

Mosaic + Godzilla = Mozilla

Read it in MrChad's link.

http://mozilla.org/projects/firebird/release-notes.html

# Mozilla Firebird is just Mozilla with a couple UI tweaks.

The 40,000+ lines of code already added or changed from Mozilla beg to differ. People who claim this are generally unknowledgeable about Mozilla Firebird.

 

[Vadatajs]

Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey
Netscape is mostly just mozilla anyways. Anyone today who thinks "netscape sucks" or whatever is stuck in 1998.

Mozilla doesn't install aol, realplayer, and winamp by default when you install it. Netscape sucks for that reason alone.

 

[yukichigai]

Originally posted by: Vadatajs
Mozilla doesn't install aol, realplayer, and winamp by default when you install it. Netscape sucks for that reason alone.

It's gotten that bad already? Yeesh... I'm glad I switched to Moz the instant I heard AOL had bought Netscape. Yeeesh.

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

Originally posted by: Vadatajs

Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey
Netscape is mostly just mozilla anyways. Anyone today who thinks "netscape sucks" or whatever is stuck in 1998.

Mozilla doesn't install aol, realplayer, and winamp by default when you install it. Netscape sucks for that reason alone.

Heh, netscape installs all that now?

I suppose, as always, you shouldn't use phrases as general as "anyone who thinks [....]", so I should say that it should have read "Most people who think [...]".

 

[igowerf]

Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey

Originally posted by: Spyro

Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey

Originally posted by: Spyro
A quick googlization of the name reveals this usenet thread with the answer.

And the beast shall come forth surrounded by a roiling cloud of
vengeance. The house of the unbelievers shall be razed and they shall be
scorched to the earth. Their tags shall blink until the end of days.
(from The Book of Mozilla, 12:10)

And the beast shall be made legion. Its numbers shall be increased a
thousand thousand fold. The din of a million keyboards like unto a great
storm shall cover the earth, and the followers of Mammon shall tremble.
from The Book of Mozilla, 3:31

😛

go to "about:mozilla" in a gecko browser. 🙂

Mozilla 1.3.1

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030521 Debian/1.3.1-1

Interesting, maybe they took it out in newer versions. Here in 1.0x I get a red screen with white text saying:

And the beast shall be made legion. Its numbers shall be increased a thousand thousand fold. The din of a million keyboards like unto a great storm shall cover the earth, and the followers of Mammon shall tremble.
from The Book of Mozilla, 3:31
(Red Letter Edition)

I get that too with Firebird 0.6. I wonder if there's more...

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

Originally posted by: igowerf
I get that too with Firebird 0.6. I wonder if there's more...

Ah yeah, it does, I never knew 🙂