Netgear Wireless-G WGR614 Router or WG511 PC Card

multifacitedonyx

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They have the netgear WG602 54 Mbps G access point for the same price. Item number 3614865 in the LAtimes ad Why would one want a wireless 802.11G access point over a wireless 802.11G router? Plus, the router is a better deal with only a $40 rebate vs a $50 rebate for the access point.

By the way, I got the router last week, and it works fine so far but was not easy to set up and has the added feature that it could keep your coffee warm!
 

SupaDupaPan

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A friend of mine who has the Netgear wireless router has problems with his, so after hearing from his experience I decided to stay away from netgear (just to avoid any problems). On this weeks fry's ad there also seems to be a Buffalo wireless G router for $49.99 - $30.00 = $19.99 after mail in rebate as well, does anyone know how reliable this brand is?
 

salaku

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Anyone has any experience with those Buffalos (!!). Routers I meant.
Originally posted by: SupaDupaPan
A friend of mine who has the Netgear wireless router has problems with his, so after hearing from his experience I decided to stay away from netgear (just to avoid any problems). On this weeks fry's ad there also seems to be a Buffalo wireless G router for $49.99 - $30.00 = $19.99 after mail in rebate as well, does anyone know how reliable this brand is?

 

Mongals

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Well you have to realize that Acces points are for a exanding an existing network. I imagine that it would be best to get an acces point instead of another router so that you don't run into firewall issues or something of that sort. But it still might be more effective to buy the router instead.
My 2 cents
 

PhoMan

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with some routers you can disable the dhcp server option, that will turn the router into a ap. but then you need to know what ya doing. Personally I'd go with the router and excercise the option to use it as an AP.
 

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I know I've read a review of the Buffallo router in a magazine recently, I'll try to find it for you later tonight or tomorrow.

I think I"m going to buy this router b/c it's exactly what I need, the price is right, and I've never had a problem using my friend's netgear wireless router. However they're using netgear wireless cards, I was thinking about buying the D-link PCI card outpost has for sale: http://shop4.outpost.com/product/3938658 does anyone know if this will be a problem. I know that, in theory, it should work fine. However I've heard of occational problems people have when mixing brands like that. I just need this connection to reach about 15-20 feet straight up (my connection is on the bottom floor, my other computer is on the floor above).

Thanks for any help you guys could give me and I'll look for that buffalo review for you
 

darksine2003

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I bought the WBR2-G54 router that was on sale a couple weeks back from outpost. It is terrific, actually I bought two and have one repeating the signal from the first one so that the rest of my house can have wireless access as well. It works really well, it isn't that much of a hassle, after you get it right the first time you won't have to deal with it. If you do happen to get two to of them, learn from my mistakes:

Step one, in both routers enter the MAC address of the other router in the section that is for WDS. Then set both of them to the same channel, then deactivate the DHCP server on the one that will not be connected to the WAN (make sure you set the same WEP key for both routers first). On the one that will be connected to the WAN, do not deactivate the DHCP. Obviously give the router that will not be connected to the WAN an IP address in the same range as the DHCP active router will be doling out. And that is it, you should have them repeating within 10 minutes of taking them out of the box.

Edit: about the router - the range is good, it even has a connection for an antenna if you want to attach it on, otherwise I am guessing the antenna is built into the router because it doesn't have one. I am getting better range with it than I was with one of the B Linksys routers I was using before. I get full strength with my laptop's wireless card (D-Link 650+) now and before I was getting like 75% or so. It hasn't really gone down either, we have 2 wireless connection on it directly, plus the repeating router that connects to it (that one has 4 more wireless connections connecting to it). The features are nice, it has an intrusion detector which can email you when it finds something questionable. You can supposedly use the Sveasoft firmware which, according to other threads, is doing wonders for the Linksys G router it was made for. Other than that, its just like every other router, same features and all.
 

Imyourzero

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I would just like to chime in and say that I set up a home network using this exact combo (WGR614 + WG311) a few months ago and it has been working GREAT. It couldn't have been easier to set up (Netgear has a reputation for simple setup) and even though the PC with the wireless card is in a completely different room from the router, it gets excellent signal strength (48-54 mbps on the signal meter).
 

Ecliptic

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i purchaased this router last week @ frys for 19.99 AR along with the wg511 and wg311 cards for 14.99 AR each.

Pros for this router are the excellent firewall features: SPI, DOS, WPA, MAC filtering on WLAN side only. Also the wireless coverage increases over my SMC 802.11b turbo router.

Cons are: internet on the wireless side seems to be sluglish compared to the SMC router and clients take an eternity to connnect to the router. This may be due to the crappy drivers for the wg511 and wg311 as I still cant get WPA to work on the cliants (drivers for the wg311 crashed and drivers for the wg511 stops working with wpa enabled. if i type in ipconfig in the wg511, it returns 'media disconnected' and i cant release or renew the ip address... anyone knows what this means?). Everything is fine when all the security features are shut off, but once you turn on MAC filtering, WPA, and turn off SSID broadcasting, thats when strange things start to happen. By far the hardest router to set up. oh yeah, you can also fry an egg on top of the router, as it doubles for a stove :D
 

straubs

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Originally posted by: Imyourzero
I would just like to chime in and say that I set up a home network using this exactly combo (WGR614 + WG511) a few months ago and it has been working GREAT. It couldn't have been easier to set up (Netgear has a reputation for simple setup) and even though the PC with the wireless card is in a completely different room from the router, it gets excellent signal strength (48-54 mbps on the signal meter).

Just set up this router with a MA111 USB 802.11b to connect my TiVo to my LAN. The setup was ridiculously easy. I turned off SSID broadcast, turned on 128-bit WEP (can't use the WPA with the 802.11b MA111 adapter), enabled MAC filtering, and it works perfect.

The software built in to the router is top-notch. You can set up things like filtering web sites based on content or URL and for specific days and time periods. Neat stuff!
 

straubs

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Originally posted by: Ecliptic
Everything is fine when all the security features are shut off, but once you turn on MAC filtering, WPA, and turn off SSID broadcasting, thats when strange things start to happen. By far the hardest router to set up. oh yeah, you can also fry an egg on top of the router, as it doubles for a stove :D

This is my first wireless router and I had the set up finished in under 45 minutes. I am using all the security features you mentioned except WEP 128-bit instead of WPA because my 802.11b adapter (can't use g with TiVo yet) doesn't support WPA.

The only problem I had was I decided to skip the "power on" order they tell you to use and the automatic set up decided my cable internet was static IP. I then turned everything off and on in the order netgear suggests and this time the auto setup worked perfect.

 

Ecliptic

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Originally posted by: straubs
Originally posted by: Ecliptic
Everything is fine when all the security features are shut off, but once you turn on MAC filtering, WPA, and turn off SSID broadcasting, thats when strange things start to happen. By far the hardest router to set up. oh yeah, you can also fry an egg on top of the router, as it doubles for a stove :D

This is my first wireless router and I had the set up finished in under 45 minutes. I am using all the security features you mentioned except WEP 128-bit instead of WPA because my 802.11b adapter (can't use g with TiVo yet) doesn't support WPA.

The only problem I had was I decided to skip the "power on" order they tell you to use and the automatic set up decided my cable internet was static IP. I then turned everything off and on in the order netgear suggests and this time the auto setup worked perfect.

i said the drivers for the wg511 and wg311 was crappy, not the router. since you are not using either network cards, your experience will differ than mine. I had flawless operation with my d-link network cards also, its these netgear ones that suck.
 

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The prices at outpost have changed to $19.99 for for the router with free shipping or $19.99 for the card.
 

Jscanavan

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I ordered both of these, but now the rebates are wrong. Does anyone have the Outpost rebate pdfs with $25 & $40 that expire today? The ones linked online now expire 9/30 and are $10 & $20. Thanks.

(Nevermind, I called and they emailed the correct one that expires today)
 

mchurchm

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The website shows a $30 mail-in rebate for the WGR614, not $40. Is the $40 rebate still valid/available?
 

Mongals

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No it is a different rebate, the $40.00 dollar rebate expired on the 9th I believe.
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PhoMan

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On the Netgear rebate it reads as follows:

"Limit 3 products per product, person, receipt, household, family or address."

Does this mean we can only get a total of 3 items regardless of the same product or not?

What I am trying to say is will I be able to get all of my rebates if I buy 1 router, 1 ap, and 2 usb and 2 pci wireless cards. This will add up to a total of 6 items from 4 different products.

Please help, I need to know if I should return 3 of the items. I was thinking of upgrading everything in my house from .b to the .g technology.

Thank you in advance.