Netflix, Hulu may have to wait 4 years for TV shows

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natto fire

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simmer down, don't take what I said personally. I must be too old and out of touch because I don't know what a hipster is. As to what shows I watch, good ones. I like Game of Thrones, TWD & kinda sorta that one with Claire Danes where she's a CIA agent (but that one tries a bit to hard to blow the us is the greatest flavor koolaid up my ass)... and I like Sci-fi & fantasy movies, and Jean-Luc Picard as the captain.

But, at least I make an effort not to be an assume-too-much fool. tool is better than fool.

I just find it hard to believe your rant before was purely semantics on the finer points of consumption.

If you need help, some people equate watching a show with consuming it. There is obviously no physiological difference in how it is watched, just terminology.

I will get off your lawn now, and sorry for the confusion.
 

JSt0rm

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netflix knew the gravy train of cheap content would come to a close. This is why they are making their own content. All that matters is content.

As for comparison to music industry its really impossible. The barrier to entry for music is around $800. The barrier to entry for a film is around 500k dollars at the minimum (mumblecore aside). If it got to the point where no one was ever paying for content there just wouldn't be any new content.
 

natto fire

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netflix knew the gravy train of cheap content would come to a close. This is why they are making their own content. All that matters is content.

As for comparison to music industry its really impossible. The barrier to entry for music is around $800. The barrier to entry for a film is around 500k dollars at the minimum (mumblecore aside). If it got to the point where no one was ever paying for content there just wouldn't be any new content.

Is there anything on any books that prevent an artist from just distributing their content directly? I know it is faux paus for the person who made the content to get the majority profit, but is there any specific law preventing this? Can't say I would shed many tears for the hair slicked record exec who finds himself out of work after the artist does well on their own.
 

Ns1

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Is there anything on any books that prevent an artist from just distributing their content directly? I know it is faux paus for the person who made the content to get the majority profit, but is there any specific law preventing this? Can't say I would shed many tears for the hair slicked record exec who finds himself out of work after the artist does well on their own.

Depends on the contract the artist has signed. See:

http://www.theverge.com/2015/11/4/9669626/kesha-dr-luke-lawsuit-sony-label
 

Ns1

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All I saw in that article is an artist being shut down by her production team. Granted, Kesha is not an artist in the traditional sense, but your article seems to be solidifying my point. Did you just link the headline and not actually read the article?

:whiste:

The answer to that question is just as complicated as the lawsuit that surrounds it. "Music contracts can have drastically different provisions depending on… the prior success and fame of the artist," said Brad Newberg, an intellectual property specialist and partner at law firm McGuireWoods, in an email. "An artist who is very popular going into a contract deal can negotiate various terms (such as ownership of works, ability to do side projects, ability to terminate the deal) that someone who is 18 and getting their break can’t." This is relevant in Kesha’s case: her career began in the mid-2000s when she sent Dr. Luke and pop godhead Max Martin a demo she made with her songwriter mother and a musical director at BMI. She was 18 years old.
 
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natto fire

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Not sure what you are getting at, because what I read solidifies my point.

I knew this thread was a pile of shit AT troll fodder, but now we are talking about a POS recording artist who has very little to do with television? OK, I guess AT gotta reach. What do you want from me now? You won, this thread is good, and ATOT lives to fight in the next 3 to 4 days, depending on traffic.
 

Ns1

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not sure what you are getting at, because what i read solidifies my point.

I knew this thread was a pile of shit at troll fodder, but now we are talking about a pos recording artist who has very little to do with television? Ok, i guess at gotta reach. What do you want from me now? You won, this thread is good, and atot lives to fight in the next 3 to 4 days, depending on traffic.

Protip: they have contracts in the feature/tv industry just like they have contracts in the music industry. If you follow the logic, you will reach the answer to your original question:

Is there anything on any books that prevent an artist from just distributing their content directly?
 
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13Gigatons

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Let's see...

I pay $88.xx/month (inc. taxes/fees) for cable + (75Mbps) internet from Comcrap.

If I were to 'unbundle' and go internet only I'd pay:

$78.95 + taxes and fees (75Mbps, $66.95 for 25Mbps)
+ $9.99 for Netflix

Total would be $88.94/month.

Add in Hulu for more "TV" content at $7.99/month and Amazon prime at ~$8.25/month to fill in some content gaps and I'm now paying a total of:

$105.18/month

I save exactly how much by cutting the cord again?

This is the crux of the argument. Most people are in the same boat. Netflix should be solid competition but the cable system is rigged.

Some places are lucky to have local fiber or Google Fiber competition but not enough places. Too many obstacles.

Sadly the Content war will continue and access will continue to be fractured.