NetFlix and Blockbuster online rentals

[max2]

Why does Netflix and Blockbuster not allow you to rent any of their dvd movies by being able to stream it to your pc or tv ? I don't like them mailing me the dvds because there are no guarantees. USPS can slow down or be really slow around holidays.

Plus no worries when its a holiday and there not open or on Satuirday or Sunday.

When I want to watch a movie I want to watch it now. Not have to wait.

It could still be the monthly price they have now and still send out dvds if people still wanted that. I just want the option of this because its so much easier.

Yes you can stream dvds

 

[max2]

Would you use this if they had it?

 

[Ramma2]

No, I don't like watching movies on my computer. I've got a nice 5.1 home theatre with a comfey couch.

Plus, when we want to watch a movie it's usually a spur of the moment "What do we have, ok lets watch that one". Having to wait for a 4+GB movie to download would kill the mood to watch a movie.

Edit: Ok you mentioned streaming, missed that part. Watching a movie "Buffering, please wait...."

No thanks!

 

[max2]

Originally posted by: Ramma2
No, I don't like watching movies on my computer. I've got a nice 5.1 home theatre with a comfey couch.

Plus, when we want to watch a movie it's usually a spur of the moment "What do we have, ok lets watch that one". Having to wait for a 4+GB movie to download would kill the mood to watch a movie.

Edit: Ok you mentioned streaming, missed that part. Watching a movie "Buffering, please wait...."

No thanks!

I talking about streaming to Video Lan Player.

A lot of connections today can stream a full dvd movie without any stops

 

[Ramma2]

Originally posted by: max2

Originally posted by: Ramma2
No, I don't like watching movies on my computer. I've got a nice 5.1 home theatre with a comfey couch.

Plus, when we want to watch a movie it's usually a spur of the moment "What do we have, ok lets watch that one". Having to wait for a 4+GB movie to download would kill the mood to watch a movie.

Edit: Ok you mentioned streaming, missed that part. Watching a movie "Buffering, please wait...."

No thanks!

I talking about streaming to Video Lan Player.

A lot of connections today can stream a full dvd movie without any stops

Sure, the connections are there, but there are other areas where the system can fail. If you're on a cable connection, and 5 of your neighbors in the apt building are streaming a video over the net, how good is your connection going to be? Or if 400,000 people are hitting the netflix server, is your connection going to be reliable?

The technology is a good one, I just don't think we're there yet.

 

[max2]

Originally posted by: Ramma2

Originally posted by: max2

Originally posted by: Ramma2
No, I don't like watching movies on my computer. I've got a nice 5.1 home theatre with a comfey couch.

Plus, when we want to watch a movie it's usually a spur of the moment "What do we have, ok lets watch that one". Having to wait for a 4+GB movie to download would kill the mood to watch a movie.

Edit: Ok you mentioned streaming, missed that part. Watching a movie "Buffering, please wait...."

No thanks!

I talking about streaming to Video Lan Player.

A lot of connections today can stream a full dvd movie without any stops

Sure, the connections are there, but there are other areas where the system can fail. If you're on a cable connection, and 5 of your neighbors in the apt building are streaming a video over the net, how good is your connection going to be? Or if 400,000 people are hitting the netflix server, is your connection going to be reliable?

The technology is a good one, I just don't think we're there yet.

Remember this will only be a option. Some people will still prefer their dvds mailed to them instead.

Overload in my opinion won't be a problem or other people using it in your same area.

Wouldn't it be so much easier if you didn't have to worry about messed up dvds, losts dvds, them running out of stock for the movie you really wanted to see, etc ?

 

[Queasy]

I believe Netflix has already looked into this in partnership with Tivo. They kind of backed out of these plans because frankly the market isn't quite there yet.

 

[Ramma2]

Making it an option is a good idea.

I haven't been burned by netflix yet, so I guess I'm just content with the regular service. I would try the download thing to see how it worked, if my connection would handle it.

 

[max2]

Originally posted by: Ramma2
Making it an option is a good idea.

I haven't been burned by netflix yet, so I guess I'm just content with the regular service. I would try the download thing to see how it worked, if my connection would handle it.

Of course its a good idea.

I don't want anyone forced to do it because the least people who do it the less strain on the server! Though it would beable to handle it.

 

[wyvrn]

Everybody wants VOD, but there need to be improvements in infrastructure and licensing agreements. Disney has a project called Moviebeam that was recently revived by Cisco and some other companies, that allows movies to be streamed over the PBS network to a set top box. But there isn't a full fledged VOD service that most customers are going to want to use, yet, for lots of reasons (use google).

 

[max2]

Originally posted by: Queasy
I believe Netflix has already looked into this in partnership with Tivo. They kind of backed out of these plans because frankly the market isn't quite there yet.

The market is there.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: max2

Originally posted by: Queasy
I believe Netflix has already looked into this in partnership with Tivo. They kind of backed out of these plans because frankly the market isn't quite there yet.

The market is there.

Is it there enough to warrant the cost of setting up the service? Tivo and Netflix obviously said not right now. Companies keep talking about distribution of content through broadband but they haven't set anything up yet. Why? The cost is too much right now. A couple of years down the road and we will probably start seeing this.

Also don't forget that every content provider is going to want to DRM their content to the hilt.

 

[max2]

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: max2

Originally posted by: Queasy
I believe Netflix has already looked into this in partnership with Tivo. They kind of backed out of these plans because frankly the market isn't quite there yet.

The market is there.

Is it there enough to warrant the cost of setting up the service? Tivo and Netflix obviously said not right now. Companies keep talking about distribution of content through broadband but they haven't set anything up yet. Why? The cost is too much right now. A couple of years down the road and we will probably start seeing this.

Also don't forget that every content provider is going to want to DRM their content to the hilt.

Then why are some services doing it now if its to expensive and not worth it rigtht now?

I think Netflix didn't do it because of all the legal issues if I remember right.

 

[Trikat]

Originally posted by: max2
Why does Netflix and Blockbuster not allow you to rent any of their dvd movies by being able to stream it to your pc or tv ? I don't like them mailing me the dvds because there are no guarantees. USPS can slow down or be really slow around holidays.

Plus no worries when its a holiday and there not open or on Satuirday or Sunday.

When I want to watch a movie I want to watch it now. Not have to wait.

It could still be the monthly price they have now and still send out dvds if people still wanted that. I just want the option of this because its so much easier.

Yes you can stream dvds

Both companies are able to throttle your DVDs. Sometimes there are delays in the shipping, but i'm betting a good portion of it is throttling. Please note this is stated in their "policies."

 

[max2]

Originally posted by: Trikat

Originally posted by: max2
Why does Netflix and Blockbuster not allow you to rent any of their dvd movies by being able to stream it to your pc or tv ? I don't like them mailing me the dvds because there are no guarantees. USPS can slow down or be really slow around holidays.

Plus no worries when its a holiday and there not open or on Satuirday or Sunday.

When I want to watch a movie I want to watch it now. Not have to wait.

It could still be the monthly price they have now and still send out dvds if people still wanted that. I just want the option of this because its so much easier.

Yes you can stream dvds

Both companies are able to throttle your DVDs. Sometimes there are delays in the shipping, but i'm betting a good portion of it is throttling. Please note this is stated in their "policies."

I know.

Its just easier getting them by streaming it to you in my opinion. Plus no out of stock ever!

 

[torpid]

As mentioned above, the partnership between tivo and netflix was in the works, but they didn't feel the market was large enough to justify the cost of software upgrades and license acquisitions. I also think the pricing model would have to change from netflix.

 

[max2]

Originally posted by: torpid
As mentioned above, the partnership between tivo and netflix was in the works, but they didn't feel the market was large enough to justify the cost of software upgrades and license acquisitions. I also think the pricing model would have to change from netflix.

Why?

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: max2

Originally posted by: torpid
As mentioned above, the partnership between tivo and netflix was in the works, but they didn't feel the market was large enough to justify the cost of software upgrades and license acquisitions. I also think the pricing model would have to change from netflix.

Why?

Bandwidth is not cheap.

 

[max2]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: max2

Originally posted by: torpid
As mentioned above, the partnership between tivo and netflix was in the works, but they didn't feel the market was large enough to justify the cost of software upgrades and license acquisitions. I also think the pricing model would have to change from netflix.

Why?

Bandwidth is not cheap.

That depends.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: max2

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: max2

Originally posted by: torpid
As mentioned above, the partnership between tivo and netflix was in the works, but they didn't feel the market was large enough to justify the cost of software upgrades and license acquisitions. I also think the pricing model would have to change from netflix.

Why?

Bandwidth is not cheap.

That depends.

Depends?

A DVD will range from 4gbs - 8.5gbs. If I'm paying to rent DVDs, I expect DVD quality movies, not some compressed piece of crap. Figure 50,000 people make use of the service, at a rate of 2 movies per week. That's 1.6 -3.6 million gbs/month.

Also, that is an extremely conservative estimate. Not to mention the costs associated with transfering the DVDs to servers, having multiple pipes, etc. On top of that, Netflix carries over 55,000 titles.

 

[max2]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: max2

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: max2

Originally posted by: torpid
As mentioned above, the partnership between tivo and netflix was in the works, but they didn't feel the market was large enough to justify the cost of software upgrades and license acquisitions. I also think the pricing model would have to change from netflix.

Why?

Bandwidth is not cheap.

That depends.

Depends?

A DVD will range from 4gbs - 8.5gbs. If I'm paying to rent DVDs, I expect DVD quality movies, not some compressed piece of crap. Figure 50,000 people make use of the service, at a rate of 2 movies per week. That's 1.6 -3.6 million gbs/month.

Also, that is an extremely conservative estimate. Not to mention the costs associated with transfering the DVDs to servers, having multiple pipes, etc. On top of that, Netflix carries over 55,000 titles.

Other companies are able to handle even more bandwidth than that ever single second.

Netflix should hire one of them.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: max2

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: max2

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: max2

Originally posted by: torpid
As mentioned above, the partnership between tivo and netflix was in the works, but they didn't feel the market was large enough to justify the cost of software upgrades and license acquisitions. I also think the pricing model would have to change from netflix.

Why?

Bandwidth is not cheap.

That depends.

Depends?

A DVD will range from 4gbs - 8.5gbs. If I'm paying to rent DVDs, I expect DVD quality movies, not some compressed piece of crap. Figure 50,000 people make use of the service, at a rate of 2 movies per week. That's 1.6 -3.6 million gbs/month.

Also, that is an extremely conservative estimate. Not to mention the costs associated with transfering the DVDs to servers, having multiple pipes, etc. On top of that, Netflix carries over 55,000 titles.

Other companies are able to handle even more bandwidth than that ever single second.

Netflix should hire one of them.

:roll:

 

[max2]

Your a bad apple.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: max2
Your a bad apple.

You're a moron.

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: max2

Originally posted by: torpid
As mentioned above, the partnership between tivo and netflix was in the works, but they didn't feel the market was large enough to justify the cost of software upgrades and license acquisitions. I also think the pricing model would have to change from netflix.

Why?

Why what? Change in pricing models? Because instant delivery of unlimited movies for the same price they currently charge would bankrupt them. They would need to impose a daily limit and up their prices unless they discontinued the mailing stuff or only allowed you to do one or the other.