- Nov 6, 2005
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Somewhat to counter the Abbas request for a new Israeli Palestinians framework from the internationalism community, Netanyuhu comes back with his brand new same ole plan.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ml_israe...zdHBvcHVsYXIEY3BvcwMzBHBvcwM3BHB0A2hvbWVfY29r
In terms of comments, I think the link does a good job in fairly stating the various positions and possibilities. But bottom line, Netanyuhu cannot lead Israel to a peaceful creation of a Palestinian State when his present ruling coalition depends on significant settler party support. However, enough of the Kadima party in Israel might become Netanyuhu's supporters if and when settler party supporters withdraw from any new Netanyuhu coalition.
The other thing to say, IMHO, is that the credibility of the Netanyuhu plan somewhat depends the gullibility and biases of the listener.
Because continuous talks sounds credible on the surface but its become a cliche code word for Israeli talking and stalling while building on land it does not own followed by talking and stalling and talking some more while building continuously on land Israel does not own for 18 years now. But we can say, that tactic has gained Israel 500,000 illegal Israeli settlers in the West Bank and East Jerusalem during those 18 plus years. And now Israeli is adding more illegal settlers which can't help but improve the Israeli negotiating position while reducing the Palestinian position.
Which is why I believe Abbas is correct, without an absolute and permanent freeze on new Israeli settlement, peace talks are fruitless. Because agreements from past talks make it a fairly easy two month process once the Israeli possibility of further settlement gains become impossible by an internationally demanded permanent settlement freeze.
Which would then might transform the Israel position to talk and stall, but still endless talk leads to only stagnation on all sides.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ml_israe...zdHBvcHVsYXIEY3BvcwMzBHBvcwM3BHB0A2hvbWVfY29r
In terms of comments, I think the link does a good job in fairly stating the various positions and possibilities. But bottom line, Netanyuhu cannot lead Israel to a peaceful creation of a Palestinian State when his present ruling coalition depends on significant settler party support. However, enough of the Kadima party in Israel might become Netanyuhu's supporters if and when settler party supporters withdraw from any new Netanyuhu coalition.
The other thing to say, IMHO, is that the credibility of the Netanyuhu plan somewhat depends the gullibility and biases of the listener.
Because continuous talks sounds credible on the surface but its become a cliche code word for Israeli talking and stalling while building on land it does not own followed by talking and stalling and talking some more while building continuously on land Israel does not own for 18 years now. But we can say, that tactic has gained Israel 500,000 illegal Israeli settlers in the West Bank and East Jerusalem during those 18 plus years. And now Israeli is adding more illegal settlers which can't help but improve the Israeli negotiating position while reducing the Palestinian position.
Which is why I believe Abbas is correct, without an absolute and permanent freeze on new Israeli settlement, peace talks are fruitless. Because agreements from past talks make it a fairly easy two month process once the Israeli possibility of further settlement gains become impossible by an internationally demanded permanent settlement freeze.
Which would then might transform the Israel position to talk and stall, but still endless talk leads to only stagnation on all sides.
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