Netanyahu: US must Guarantee Israel's safety from Iraqi Attack

[justint]

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My favorite quote from the article:

"A central component of any strike on Iraq must be to ensure that the Israeli government, if it so chooses, has the means to vaccinate every citizen of Israel before action is initiated," Netanyahu told the House Government Reform Committee.

"Ensuring this is not merely the responsibility of the government of Israel, but also the responsibility of the government of the United States

pretty strong words about the United States "responsibilities towards Israel" from a man who may unseat Ariel Sharon in the coming elections.

 

[mrCide]

weak.

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: justint
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My favorite quote from the article:

"A central component of any strike on Iraq must be to ensure that the Israeli government, if it so chooses, has the means to vaccinate every citizen of Israel before action is initiated," Netanyahu told the House Government Reform Committee.

"Ensuring this is not merely the responsibility of the government of Israel, but also the responsibility of the government of the United States

pretty strong words about the United States "responsibilities towards Israel" from a man who may unseat Ariel Sharon in the coming elections.

I think it is a given that Sharon will be replaced. His views have clashed on his party in some areas.

 

[FrontlineWarrior]

netanyahu can kiss my ass.

 

[Deleted member 4644]

Originally posted by: FrontlineWarrior
netanyahu can kiss my ass.

 

[tcsenter]

Well it is our responsibility since we refuse to allow Israel to defend itself or retaliate for any scuds that Saddam may lob over Israel's way, for fear of infuriating the rest of the Arab countries and getting them involved. Had we not taken great measures to protect Israel during the Gulf War in lieu of allowing Israel to defend itself or retaliate, Israel would not give a second thought about turning Iraq into a sheet of glass.

 

[SuperTool]

Originally posted by: tcsenter
Well it is our responsibility since we refuse to allow Israel to defend itself or retaliate for any scuds that Saddam may lob over Israel's way, for fear of infuriating the rest of the Arab countries and getting them involved. Had we not taken great measures to protect Israel during the Gulf War in lieu of allowing Israel to defend itself or retaliate, Israel would not give a second thought about turning Iraq into a sheet of glass.

Why does Beeby think he can come here and lecture us? I am sick of him interfering with our politics. He is not even a head of state at this time. It would be like Al Gore lecturing the Knesset about Iraq.
Have we ever let Israel down? If Iraq attacks Israel, Israel should be allowed to respond. It's not going to go well with our "allies" in the middle east, which is a joke in itself.

 

[JellyBaby]

For Netanyahu, who generally comes off reasonable on US TV, this is a bunch of poli-speak bull. The US giveaway program to Israel is $2-$3 billion per year and steadily increasing. Tell them to frickin' use some of that to vaccinate their people.

For a country who issues gas masks to each citizen I can't imagine how suddenly it's our responsibility to cover things like vaccinations.

 

[GoodRevrnd]

Originally posted by: FrontlineWarrior
netanyahu can kiss my ass.

Bite me Israel.

 

[tcsenter]

Why does Beeby think he can come here and lecture us? I am sick of him interfering with our politics. He is not even a head of state at this time. It would be like Al Gore lecturing the Knesset about Iraq. Have we ever let Israel down? If Iraq attacks Israel, Israel should be allowed to respond. It's not going to go well with our "allies" in the middle east, which is a joke in itself.

If Iraq attacks Israel, Israel is not disposed to making a proportional response. Israel will get nuclear on Iraq, in a New York minute.

 

[dolph]

Originally posted by: JellyBaby
The US giveaway program to Israel is $2-$3 billion per year and steadily increasing. Tell them to frickin' use some of that to vaccinate their people.

steadily increasing, huh? in 1998, when israel proposed its "memorandum in understanding," which was designed to phase out economic aid to israel in 10 years, decreasing the amount by 120 million a year beginning in 1999. 3 years have gone by, and they're down to 840 mil in economic aid last year. 7 more years, and us will be giving 0 to israel in economic aid. and this was at israel's suggestion. the only aid israel will be getting is military, and a huge chunk of that comes back to us to buy weapons right now.

For a country who issues gas masks to each citizen I can't imagine how suddenly it's our responsibility to cover things like vaccinations.

because the world won't let israel fight. so instead they have to take it on the chin. tcsenter is absolutely right, if israel had been allowed to fight back when scuds were being launched at it, most of the middle east would be very shiney and reflective, and israel wouldn't need vaccinations.

 

[JellyBaby]

steadily increasing, huh? in 1998, when israel proposed its "memorandum in understanding," which was designed to phase out economic aid to israel in 10 years, decreasing the amount by 120 million a year beginning in 1999. 3 years have gone by, and they're down to 840 mil in economic aid last year. 7 more years, and us will be giving 0 to israel in economic aid. and this was at israel's suggestion. the only aid israel will be getting is military, and a huge chunk of that comes back to us to buy weapons right now.

However you cook the books and jack the numbers the total dollar amount generously flowing to Israel is about $2 billion/year now and will steadily increase to nearly $3 billion/year by 2008, according to recent plans, just as I said. I'm sure this will be revised upward in the very near future.

because the world won't let israel fight. so instead they have to take it on the chin. tcsenter is absolutely right, if israel had been allowed to fight back when scuds were being launched at it, most of the middle east would be very shiney and reflective, and israel wouldn't need vaccinations.

If Israeli declined aid from the US their puppet strings could be cut and they would be free to act as aggressively as they wish. Money with strings attached is a bitch isn't it?

How can you possibly conclude that if Israeli was let loose the mid east would be "very shiney and reflective"? You'd have a big, black radioactive spot the size of Iraq. Which way does the wind blow over there?

 

[Martin]

Does he want the US to wipe Israel's ass too?

 

[dolph]

Originally posted by: JellyBaby
However you cook the books and jack the numbers the total dollar amount generously flowing to Israel is about $2 billion/year now and will steadily increase to nearly $3 billion/year by 2008, according to recent plans, just as I said. I'm sure this will be revised upward in the very near future.

let's get it straight:

israel recieves 3 billion dollars a year now. it is voluntarily cutting its economic aid by an additional 120 million every year, but is getting an additional 60 million in military aid. this means that foreign aid to israel is being cut by 60 million, net, every year. at the end of 10 years, they will be getting 2.4 billion, instead of 3 billion. oh, but wait, you're referring to "recent plans" that this will be "revised upwards" in the "very near future." ok, find those plans and prove me wrong, and i will edit this post and admit that you're right.

If Israeli declined aid from the US their puppet strings could be cut and they would be free to act as aggressively as they wish. Money with strings attached is a bitch isn't it? How can you possibly conclude that if Israeli was let loose the mid east would be "very shiney and reflective"? You'd have a big, black radioactive spot the size of Iraq. Which way does the wind blow over there?

yes, if israel wasn't receiving money they would probably act on their own. what's your point? that israel is influenced by the us? what a startling revelation! and the "shiney and reflective" remark implied what tcsenter said, just in a more colorful way. israel might use nuclear warheads if it absolutely needed to, but as a last ditch effort. they realize as well as most that the effects of nuclear weapons don't stay just where they're dropped. really, the point is that the us gives aid to israel with conditions. that's not too hard to figure out. but israel is trying to be self sufficient, and they're off to a good start.

 

[JellyBaby]

israel recieves 3 billion dollars a year now. it is voluntarily cutting its economic aid by an additional 120 million every year, but is getting an additional 60 million in military aid. this means that foreign aid to israel is being cut by 60 million, net, every year. at the end of 10 years, they will be getting 2.4 billion, instead of 3 billion. oh, but wait, you're referring to "recent plans" that this will be "revised upwards" in the "very near future." ok, find those plans and prove me wrong, and i will edit this post and admit that you're right.

No, you don't have it straight. Israel received $1.98 billion in 2001 as reported by CNN here. According to the deal they discuss in that piece, aid will rise to $2.4 billion per year by 2008.

The assertion that aid to Israel will be revised upward beyond that plan is discussed here where Bush wants to jack it up to $2.76 billion immediately for 2003.

The only one talking about economic aid is you.

yes, if israel wasn't receiving money they would probably act on their own.

Then you correctly understood that point. Good job.