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JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: kylebisme
Originally posted by: kylebisme
If you want to make an argument, state your claims and cite sources to back them, and I will be happy to address those.

and thats par for the course....no response...rofl!!
Just a copy and paste sort of guy!!
 

Red Irish

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Originally posted by: TheSkinsFan
Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
If the issue is Israel using white phosphorous on civilians then Palestinians should retaliate in kind. Either with bio or chem weapons. Who ever makes the war too dirty should also get a taste.

If you care about the non-terrorist palestinians, then a blatant chemical weapon strike on israel would probably not be a good idea as that would pretty much give israel the green light to vaporize the entire population and put this matter to bed.

there's a thought...

You are a very sorry excuse for a human being. Your posts bring shame upon you and this site, given that you are repeatedly allowed to advocate violence against Palestinians and no action is taken.

The fact that a senior moderator is actively posting in this thread whilst making no comment on this little gem more or less speaks for itself.

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Moderators are enjoined from moderating threads in which they participate in all but the most extraordinary of situations.

In any event, the poster you are complaining about is not here advocating violence against the Palestinians, but merely pointing out that Israel would have cover to respond in kind.

Morever, THIS mod (me) tends to lean towards allowing free speech to trump censoring otherwise unsavory positions in many, but not all instances where another mod may well not.

Perknose
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Red Irish

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Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: kylebisme
Originally posted by: kylebisme
If you want to make an argument, state your claims and cite sources to back them, and I will be happy to address those.

and thats par for the course....no response...rofl!!
Just a copy and paste sort of guy!!

Here's a response:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8308367.stm

Clearly the anti-Semite plot is at work at international level: the French, British and US ambassadors also question whether slaughtering hundreds of civilians constitutes self-defence. If it were a question of one or two voices objecting, you, Netanyahu and the Anandtech Cherry Brigade might have had grounds for your denial of the facts, even though we all watched the slaughter on TV, but it is increasingly a case of Israel vs the world.
 

kylebisme

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That is just hollow posturing, they are asking the Israeli government to put on a show by investigating themselves. Even if Israel does do such at thing, the most we could reasonably expect to see is the scapegoating of a few people way down the totem poll. Human rights and justice are have no meaning to such people other than as tools to manipulate the perceptions of the masses with.
 

Red Irish

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Originally posted by: kylebisme
That is just hollow posturing, they are asking the Israeli government to put on a show by investigating themselves. Even if Israel does do such at thing, the most we could reasonably expect to see is the scapegoating of a few people way down the totem poll. Human rights and justice are have no meaning to such people other than as tools to manipulate the perceptions of the masses with.

I am truly sorry to say that you are right.
 

CitizenKain

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Originally posted by: Red Irish
Originally posted by: TheSkinsFan
Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
If the issue is Israel using white phosphorous on civilians then Palestinians should retaliate in kind. Either with bio or chem weapons. Who ever makes the war too dirty should also get a taste.

If you care about the non-terrorist palestinians, then a blatant chemical weapon strike on israel would probably not be a good idea as that would pretty much give israel the green light to vaporize the entire population and put this matter to bed.

there's a thought...

You are a very sorry excuse for a human being. Your posts bring shame upon you and this site, given that you are repeatedly allowed to advocate violence against Palestinians and no action is taken.

The fact that a senior moderator is actively posting in this thread whilst making no comment on this little gem more or less speaks for itself.

No, you see, Palestinians are actually less then human, therefore you can't actually commit warcrimes against them.
 

TheSkinsFan

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Originally posted by: Red Irish
Originally posted by: TheSkinsFan
Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
If the issue is Israel using white phosphorous on civilians then Palestinians should retaliate in kind. Either with bio or chem weapons. Who ever makes the war too dirty should also get a taste.

If you care about the non-terrorist palestinians, then a blatant chemical weapon strike on israel would probably not be a good idea as that would pretty much give israel the green light to vaporize the entire population and put this matter to bed.

there's a thought...

You are a very sorry excuse for a human being. Your posts bring shame upon you and this site, given that you are repeatedly allowed to advocate violence against Palestinians and no action is taken.

The fact that a senior moderator is actively posting in this thread whilst making no comment on this little gem more or less speaks for itself.
You're right, I do advocate extreme violence against some Palestinians. Ya got me.

Are you suggesting that I should be banned for my opinion on the Israel-Palestinian conflict?

Some of us just want the fucking thing to end already. However that happens is perfectly fine by me. If one party or the other commits crimes while doing so, then punish them accordingly. But, at the end of the day, I'd be glad to see the issue resolved once and for all. All it does is give the rest of the fucking world a headache -- one that has lasted over 60 years -- and I'm quite frankly tired of it.

Let them all kill each other. I don't give a flying fuck how it ends, just fucking end it already.

EDIT: Didn't you just call out a mod? woops.
 

Red Irish

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Originally posted by: TheSkinsFan
Originally posted by: Red Irish
Originally posted by: TheSkinsFan
Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
If the issue is Israel using white phosphorous on civilians then Palestinians should retaliate in kind. Either with bio or chem weapons. Who ever makes the war too dirty should also get a taste.

If you care about the non-terrorist palestinians, then a blatant chemical weapon strike on israel would probably not be a good idea as that would pretty much give israel the green light to vaporize the entire population and put this matter to bed.

there's a thought...

You are a very sorry excuse for a human being. Your posts bring shame upon you and this site, given that you are repeatedly allowed to advocate violence against Palestinians and no action is taken.

The fact that a senior moderator is actively posting in this thread whilst making no comment on this little gem more or less speaks for itself.
You're right, I do advocate extreme violence against some Palestinians. Ya got me.

Are you suggesting that I should be banned for my opinion on the Israel-Palestinian conflict?

Some of us just want the fucking thing to end already. However that happens is perfectly fine by me. If one party or the other commits crimes while doing so, then punish them accordingly. But, at the end of the day, I'd be glad to see the issue resolved once and for all. All it does is give the rest of the fucking world a headache -- one that has lasted over 60 years -- and I'm quite frankly tired of it.

Let them all kill each other. I don't give a flying fuck how it ends, just fucking end it already.

EDIT: Didn't you just call out a mod? woops.

I am suggesting that you should be banned for voicing support for the following statement (ironic in the original post):

"vaporize the entire population and put this matter to bed"

In the context of over a thousand deaths, including hundreds of unarmed civilians, it is safe to say that you are a very sick individual, confirmed once again in your post above.

Moreover, this is a repeat performance on you part.

Yes, I suppose I have called out a mod.
 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: Red Irish
Originally posted by: TheSkinsFan
Originally posted by: Red Irish
Originally posted by: TheSkinsFan
Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
If the issue is Israel using white phosphorous on civilians then Palestinians should retaliate in kind. Either with bio or chem weapons. Who ever makes the war too dirty should also get a taste.

If you care about the non-terrorist palestinians, then a blatant chemical weapon strike on israel would probably not be a good idea as that would pretty much give israel the green light to vaporize the entire population and put this matter to bed.

there's a thought...

You are a very sorry excuse for a human being. Your posts bring shame upon you and this site, given that you are repeatedly allowed to advocate violence against Palestinians and no action is taken.

The fact that a senior moderator is actively posting in this thread whilst making no comment on this little gem more or less speaks for itself.
You're right, I do advocate extreme violence against some Palestinians. Ya got me.

Are you suggesting that I should be banned for my opinion on the Israel-Palestinian conflict?

Some of us just want the fucking thing to end already. However that happens is perfectly fine by me. If one party or the other commits crimes while doing so, then punish them accordingly. But, at the end of the day, I'd be glad to see the issue resolved once and for all. All it does is give the rest of the fucking world a headache -- one that has lasted over 60 years -- and I'm quite frankly tired of it.

Let them all kill each other. I don't give a flying fuck how it ends, just fucking end it already.

EDIT: Didn't you just call out a mod? woops.

I am suggesting that you should be banned for voicing support for the following statement (ironic in the original post):

"vaporize the entire population and put this matter to bed"

In the context of over a thousand deaths, including hundreds of unarmed civilians, it is safe to say that you are a very sick individual, which you have confirmed in your post above.

Moreover, this is a repeat performance on you part.

Yes, I suppose I have called out a mod.

well I am suggesting that you are full of yourself. With all your phony bravado......
This is not the first time nor will it be the last I am sure that somebody has called for the death of an entire race.
Whats ironic is yopu calling somebody else sick...now thats too good to be made up!!!

You see Red you want your cake ands eat it too.
What you faiul to grasp is that when a mod posts in a thread they do not post as a mod and they do not usually act as a mod in a thread they are posting in.

Also your ban happy for some reason. Possibly you should be banned for making idiotic and senile comments???

Shalom!

 

JKing106

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I feel your pain, Red Irish. I sarcastically posted that Rush Limbaugh should be killed for the disservice he's doing the country, and got a vacation. On the other hand, seriously wishing for the destruction of an entire people is A-OK.
 

JKing106

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Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: Red Irish
Originally posted by: TheSkinsFan
Originally posted by: Red Irish
Originally posted by: TheSkinsFan
Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
If the issue is Israel using white phosphorous on civilians then Palestinians should retaliate in kind. Either with bio or chem weapons. Who ever makes the war too dirty should also get a taste.

If you care about the non-terrorist palestinians, then a blatant chemical weapon strike on israel would probably not be a good idea as that would pretty much give israel the green light to vaporize the entire population and put this matter to bed.

there's a thought...

You are a very sorry excuse for a human being. Your posts bring shame upon you and this site, given that you are repeatedly allowed to advocate violence against Palestinians and no action is taken.

The fact that a senior moderator is actively posting in this thread whilst making no comment on this little gem more or less speaks for itself.
You're right, I do advocate extreme violence against some Palestinians. Ya got me.

Are you suggesting that I should be banned for my opinion on the Israel-Palestinian conflict?

Some of us just want the fucking thing to end already. However that happens is perfectly fine by me. If one party or the other commits crimes while doing so, then punish them accordingly. But, at the end of the day, I'd be glad to see the issue resolved once and for all. All it does is give the rest of the fucking world a headache -- one that has lasted over 60 years -- and I'm quite frankly tired of it.

Let them all kill each other. I don't give a flying fuck how it ends, just fucking end it already.

EDIT: Didn't you just call out a mod? woops.

I am suggesting that you should be banned for voicing support for the following statement (ironic in the original post):

"vaporize the entire population and put this matter to bed"

In the context of over a thousand deaths, including hundreds of unarmed civilians, it is safe to say that you are a very sick individual, which you have confirmed in your post above.

Moreover, this is a repeat performance on you part.

Yes, I suppose I have called out a mod.

well I am suggesting that you are full of yourself. With all your phony bravado......
This is not the first time nor will it be the last I am sure that somebody has called for the death of an entire race.
Whats ironic is yopu calling somebody else sick...now thats too good to be made up!!!

You see Red you want your cake ands eat it too.
What you faiul to grasp is that when a mod posts in a thread they do not post as a mod and they do not usually act as a mod in a thread they are posting in.

Also your ban happy for some reason. Possibly you should be banned for making idiotic and senile comments???

Shalom!

You're an absolute idiot. You have no argument, just "nyah-nyah, I know you are, but what am I?" grade school bullshit. Perhaps you should be banned for making everyone's IQ drop 20 points from your sheer stupidity?

 

ayabe

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Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: ayabe
Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: ayabe
Purposefully targeting hospitals and food stores isn't an acceptable manner to conduct war.

I agree. You're supposed to target weddings and bus depots. Everyone knows this.

Nice dodge.

As an American taxpayer I have a problem when my subsidy dollars are being used to commit war crimes, guess you don't, duly noted.

So lets get this straight....
As an american tax payer you are against the United states winning a war?????
That`s what you just said...you caN`t have it both ways!
There is no such thing as a clean play by the rules war.
You don`t go to war to losae.... if the enemy only has 5,000 troops all with guns and 100 tanks.....you don`t also only put 5,000 troops all wioth guns and 100 tanks and see who is going to win!
You go to war to win!! End of the story!!

Coming from you, that's really sad.
 

Red Irish

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Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: Red Irish
Originally posted by: TheSkinsFan
Originally posted by: Red Irish
Originally posted by: TheSkinsFan
Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
If the issue is Israel using white phosphorous on civilians then Palestinians should retaliate in kind. Either with bio or chem weapons. Who ever makes the war too dirty should also get a taste.

If you care about the non-terrorist palestinians, then a blatant chemical weapon strike on israel would probably not be a good idea as that would pretty much give israel the green light to vaporize the entire population and put this matter to bed.

there's a thought...

You are a very sorry excuse for a human being. Your posts bring shame upon you and this site, given that you are repeatedly allowed to advocate violence against Palestinians and no action is taken.

The fact that a senior moderator is actively posting in this thread whilst making no comment on this little gem more or less speaks for itself.
You're right, I do advocate extreme violence against some Palestinians. Ya got me.

Are you suggesting that I should be banned for my opinion on the Israel-Palestinian conflict?

Some of us just want the fucking thing to end already. However that happens is perfectly fine by me. If one party or the other commits crimes while doing so, then punish them accordingly. But, at the end of the day, I'd be glad to see the issue resolved once and for all. All it does is give the rest of the fucking world a headache -- one that has lasted over 60 years -- and I'm quite frankly tired of it.

Let them all kill each other. I don't give a flying fuck how it ends, just fucking end it already.

EDIT: Didn't you just call out a mod? woops.

I am suggesting that you should be banned for voicing support for the following statement (ironic in the original post):

"vaporize the entire population and put this matter to bed"

In the context of over a thousand deaths, including hundreds of unarmed civilians, it is safe to say that you are a very sick individual, which you have confirmed in your post above.

Moreover, this is a repeat performance on you part.

Yes, I suppose I have called out a mod.

well I am suggesting that you are full of yourself. With all your phony bravado......
This is not the first time nor will it be the last I am sure that somebody has called for the death of an entire race.
Whats ironic is yopu calling somebody else sick...now thats too good to be made up!!!

You see Red you want your cake ands eat it too.
What you faiul to grasp is that when a mod posts in a thread they do not post as a mod and they do not usually act as a mod in a thread they are posting in.

Also your ban happy for some reason. Possibly you should be banned for making idiotic and senile comments???

Shalom!

Where have I been sick?

I grasp it, but once again, I see double standards in operation.

I will accept the ban before I will consent to allowing somebody to post a flippant remark relating to genocide in the context of war crimes and hundreds of dead people, and I include the Israelis who died.

Shalom indeed, sadly the word seems to have lost any meaning for you.
 

JKing106

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Originally posted by: ayabe
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: ayabe
Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: ayabe
Purposefully targeting hospitals and food stores isn't an acceptable manner to conduct war.

I agree. You're supposed to target weddings and bus depots. Everyone knows this.

Nice dodge.

As an American taxpayer I have a problem when my subsidy dollars are being used to commit war crimes, guess you don't, duly noted.

So lets get this straight....
As an american tax payer you are against the United states winning a war?????
That`s what you just said...you caN`t have it both ways!
There is no such thing as a clean play by the rules war.
You don`t go to war to losae.... if the enemy only has 5,000 troops all with guns and 100 tanks.....you don`t also only put 5,000 troops all wioth guns and 100 tanks and see who is going to win!
You go to war to win!! End of the story!!

Coming from you, that's really sad.

Didn't you know war is just a big game where you get to play Rambo, and everybody gets up and goes home afterward? It's really fun, as long as you're not really there!
 

Red Irish

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In any event, the poster you are complaining about is not here advocating violence against the Palestinians, but merely pointing out that Israel would have cover to respond in kind.



Perknose
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Perknose, this is untrue. The original poster, Jonks, clearly meant it in this sense, but this is not the case with TheSkinsFan, that much is clear. Indeed, he actually clarified that he was serious in his reply further down.
 

Jaskalas

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Originally posted by: Red Irish
I grasp it, but once again, I see double standards in operation.

These Muslim terrorists and Israel do not treat us equally either. One is decidedly more friendlier than the other.
 

Red Irish

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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: Red Irish
I grasp it, but once again, I see double standards in operation.

These Muslim terrorists and Israel do not treat us equally either. One is decidedly more friendlier than the other.

I wonder why. The videos of Israelis calling for the death of Obama on Youtube when he criticised further illegal housing didn't seem overly friendly to me.
 

TheSkinsFan

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Originally posted by: Red Irish

In any event, the poster you are complaining about is not here advocating violence against the Palestinians, but merely pointing out that Israel would have cover to respond in kind.



Perknose
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Perknose, this is untrue. The original poster, Jonks, clearly meant it in this sense, but this is not the case with TheSkinsFan, that much is clear. Indeed, he actually clarified that he was serious in his reply further down.

Actually, what I said was that I don't care how it happens, I just want this 60+ year headache -- one that could very well end up bringing the entire world to the cusp of all-out war -- to end. Do you know how much bloodshed other than Israelis and Palestinians, can be directly linked to that conflict?

All of that would end if one party, or the other, no longer lived on that land. However that happens is fine by me. I'm simply tired of paying the price for the stubbornness of two groups of people who can't get along.
 

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Originally posted by: Red Irish

In any event, the poster you are complaining about is not here advocating violence against the Palestinians, but merely pointing out that Israel would have cover to respond in kind.



Perknose
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Perknose, this is untrue. The original poster, Jonks, clearly meant it in this sense, but this is not the case with TheSkinsFan, that much is clear. Indeed, he actually clarified that he was serious in his reply further down.

The SkinsFan seems to be stating that if the Palestinians want to up the anti on the type of weapons being used against the civilian population; then he has no problem with Israel responding in kind.

That matches up with what Perknose commented on.

Where is the problem in that?

 

Red Irish

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Originally posted by: TheSkinsFan
Originally posted by: Red Irish

In any event, the poster you are complaining about is not here advocating violence against the Palestinians, but merely pointing out that Israel would have cover to respond in kind.



Perknose
Senior AT Mod


Perknose, this is untrue. The original poster, Jonks, clearly meant it in this sense, but this is not the case with TheSkinsFan, that much is clear. Indeed, he actually clarified that he was serious in his reply further down.

Actually, what I said was that I don't care how it happens, I just want this 60+ year headache -- one that could very well end up bringing the entire world to the cusp of all-out war -- to end. Do you know how much bloodshed other than Israelis and Palestinians, can be directly linked to that conflict?

All of that would end if one party, or the other, no longer lived on that land. However that happens is fine by me. I'm simply tired of paying the price for the stubbornness of two groups of people who can't get along.

We are all tired of it and yes, I am fully aware of the bloodshed that can be linked to this conflict; however, the comment in no more appealing to me when you apply it to both sides of the equation.
 

Red Irish

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Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
Originally posted by: Red Irish

In any event, the poster you are complaining about is not here advocating violence against the Palestinians, but merely pointing out that Israel would have cover to respond in kind.



Perknose
Senior AT Mod


Perknose, this is untrue. The original poster, Jonks, clearly meant it in this sense, but this is not the case with TheSkinsFan, that much is clear. Indeed, he actually clarified that he was serious in his reply further down.

The SkinsFan seems to be stating that if the Palestinians want to up the anti on the type of weapons being used against the civilian population; then he has no problem with Israel responding in kind.

That matches up with what Perknose commented on.

Where is the problem in that?

"There's an idea" clearly referred to wiping the Palestinian people off the face of the map.
 

TheSkinsFan

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Originally posted by: Red Irish
Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
Originally posted by: Red Irish

In any event, the poster you are complaining about is not here advocating violence against the Palestinians, but merely pointing out that Israel would have cover to respond in kind.



Perknose
Senior AT Mod


Perknose, this is untrue. The original poster, Jonks, clearly meant it in this sense, but this is not the case with TheSkinsFan, that much is clear. Indeed, he actually clarified that he was serious in his reply further down.

The SkinsFan seems to be stating that if the Palestinians want to up the anti on the type of weapons being used against the civilian population; then he has no problem with Israel responding in kind.

That matches up with what Perknose commented on.

Where is the problem in that?

"There's an idea" clearly referred to wiping the Palestinian people off the face of the map.
What I actually said was "there's a thought." If the entire region disappeared tomorrow, I personally believe the world would be a better, more peaceful, and much safer place. I'm not advocating it one way, or the other. I'm simply saying that if it happened, I honestly wouldn't care.

Thinking about a world without that never-ending conflict brings a smile to my face.

Welcome to the world of freedom of speech my friend. Enjoy your stay.
 

Red Irish

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Originally posted by: TheSkinsFan
What I actually said was "there's a thought." If the entire region disappeared tomorrow, I personally believe the world would be a better, more peaceful, and much safer place. I'm not advocating it one way, or the other. I'm simply saying that if it happened, I honestly wouldn't care.

Thinking about a world without that never-ending conflict brings a smile to my face.

Welcome to the world of freedom of speech my friend. Enjoy your stay.

What the hell is the difference between "there's an idea" and "there's a thought"? You used this in response to a hypothetical situation wherein the Palestinians would be wiped out, despite your attempts to squirm your way out of what you said. The post is available above in case your memory needs refreshed. Freedom of speech entails responsibilities that you do not seem to understand, and rest assured that I am not your friend.



 

Dari

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Time is not on Israel's side. Either they deal with this Palestinian issue soon or they may very well face a siege mentality that their predecessors dealt with in the early days of the founding of the state. The only difference now is that they will be fighting religious fanatics, not nationalists. Religious fanatics are far worse and more durable.

Israel can fight like the religious fanatics but she will be hampered for being a proper country. IMHO, they deserve it for trying to give the Palestinians a Bantustan-like state. Religion and logic don't mix.