Netanyahu: No Palestinian State If I’m Re-Elected

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Fern

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Why would jews be conspiring against him?

Netanyahu is referring to foreign money that is said to have been pouring in to affect the elections.

There is evidence it is a legit complaint. The question though is to what extent. Some are claiming the amount of outside money is enormous. But proof is needed.

Fern
 

MongGrel

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who is this gop? last time i checked, it was the executive branch that conducted diplomacy. its actually in the constitution



so why don't you go read up on the executive branch, congress, and the constitution 'grasshopper' clearly you don't know anything about any of them. maybe then you'll understand why a foreign leader treating ours like his bitch is the same as him treating you personally, as an american, as his bitch. but i guess you love to be netanyahus bitch?


well thats for you, bitch grasshoper, not me :)

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rpanic

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Netanyahu is referring to foreign money that is said to have been pouring in to affect the elections.

There is evidence it is a legit complaint. The question though is to what extent. Some are claiming the amount of outside money is enormous. But proof is needed.

Fern

I was joking because he is jewish and jews are supposed to be behind so many world conspiracies.
 

nickqt

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They pissed off all the liberals by doing it, I like it.

Let's see if Putin has plans next week!

Republicans: being the reactionary wing of the DeepState/Permagov for over 30 years.

Hooray for reactionary idiots doing things because libruuls won't like it. A hell of a way to run government policy!
 

Jhhnn

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So the path Israel has been going has been more effective in achieving Peace? But let's be honest. Israel knows exactly what it is doing. They don't want Peace. They want to annex the disputed territories and make any type of negotiated settlement untenable. There is no other way to have a sustainable Israel in that region, especially when Netanyahu is invited Jews from all over the world to move back.

You must mean a sustainable Jewish State rather than a sustainable Israel.

It's like the difference between apartheid South Africa and the South Africa of today.
 

Dari

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Netanyahu is referring to foreign money that is said to have been pouring in to affect the elections.

There is evidence it is a legit complaint. The question though is to what extent. Some are claiming the amount of outside money is enormous. But proof is needed.

Fern

Please. Netanyahu's boyfriend Sheldon Adelson has bought up a lot of media in Israel and they are running full steam for Likud. It's almost sickening. Now that a bit of money is going the other way he sees conspirators everywhere. My advice to Netyanhu: Just Go!

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ERUSALEM — Las Vegas casino magnate and GOP super donor Sheldon Adelson is gambling on a new venture. On Wednesday, after the Israeli antitrust authority approved his purchase of two more news outlets, the Jewish American billionaire upped his ante in the country’s media market.

Adelson already owns one of the four mainstream newspapers here, a free daily tabloid called Israel Hayom (Israel Today). He started that newspaper in 2007 and helped it grow to have the largest circulation in the country.

With his latest purchases, Adelson will now also control the main religious daily, Makor Rishon, which caters to Israel’s Zionist religious right, and NRG, the news Web site of the Maariv newspaper, which has faced a multitude of financial woes in the past few years.

While the antitrust authority decided that Adelson’s acquisitions are not crossing any competitive red lines, media watchdogs (and not a few political pundits) worry about Adelson's growing influence. Adelson is an avid supporter and long-time friend of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

“As a very strong backer of Prime Minister Netanyahu – not that there's anything wrong with it – Adelson owns a paper that is rarely, if ever, critical of the PM,” wrote Shmeul Rosner, an Israeli commentator, in Jewish Journal. “He now owns two papers, and one might suspect that now two papers will never be critical of Netanyahu.”

Israel’s news media are lively, but venues are not infinite, with four main national newspapers, three television news broadcasters and a handful of radio and news Web sites vying to inform and sway public opinion in a country known for its rough-and-tumble politics.

An investigative report by Channel 10 aired last year claimed that Adelson’s newspaper Israel Hayom was spinning the news to show Netanyahu in a more positive light. The newspaper’s editor, Amos Regev, dismissed the report, saying, “This so-called evidence doesn't prove anything other than the routine workings of a news organization."

Adelson’s new ventures are seen as a good thing for Netanyahu. Israel’s media is often very critical of Netanyahu — and loves engaging in what the Prime Minister calls “psychobabble” about his motives. Though he makes plenty of public pronouncements, Netanyahu rarely grants on-the-record interviews or does not host regular news conferences. Adelson's purchase might also be a plus for Netanyahu's wife, Sara, who regularly faces media scrutiny for what critics call her imperial lifestyle (she recently came under fire for yelling at a staffer for buying bags of milk instead of a proper carton).

Adelson has played a big role in GOP politics and is vocal about his support for Israel. In 2012, he spent millions backing the presidential candidacy of Mitt Romney, not only in a bid to beat President Obama but also to ensure strengthened support for Israel in domestic U.S. politics.

And, more recently, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R) apologized to Adelson after referring to the West Bank as “occupied territories” in a speech at the spring leadership meeting of the Republican Jewish Coalition, an event Adelson hosted at his Venetian Hotel in Las Vegas.
 

JEDIYoda

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So the path Israel has been going has been more effective in achieving Peace? But let's be honest. Israel knows exactly what it is doing. They don't want Peace. They want to annex the disputed territories and make any type of negotiated settlement untenable. There is no other way to have a sustainable Israel in that region, especially when Netanyahu is invited Jews from all over the world to move back.
huh...so do the Palestinians want peace? Does Hamas want peace?

lets look at this differently --
so lets get this straight -- The Palestinians elected a group who has sworn to destroy Israeli. <-- you say they want Peace?

Then Hamas-- So long as Israel exists, Hamas will seek to fight it.

So who actually really wants a lasting Peace?
 

JEDIYoda

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So the path Israel has been going has been more effective in achieving Peace? But let's be honest. Israel knows exactly what it is doing. They don't want Peace. They want to annex the disputed territories and make any type of negotiated settlement untenable. There is no other way to have a sustainable Israel in that region, especially when Netanyahu is invited Jews from all over the world to move back.
So what is Netanyahu suppose to do, when Jews are persecuted in foreign countries? Israel is for the Jews.....
Netayahu is totally doing the right thing inviting those who wish to return home!
 

rpanic

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that's ok...barel 1,800 posts and comprehension is not your best suit....

hint-- Netanyahu was NOT talking about Jews..

No shit, that’s why I said I was joking and explained it to fern’s response. Talk about reading comprehension.
 

rudeguy

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So what is Netanyahu suppose to do, when Jews are persecuted in foreign countries? Israel is for the Jews.....
Netayahu is totally doing the right thing inviting those who wish to return home!

Don't ask legitimate questions.

This forum is filled with people so full of hate towards the Jews that nothing Israel does will ever be good enough. They honestly believe that Israel should give Palestine whatever it wants. The innocent people being blown up by bombs and mortars? That is Israel's fault.

They choose to ignore history and the facts. They don't want to admit that this whole situation started when Israel was attacked and had to defend itself. It would be like Americans with French ancestry blowing up buses in New Orleans or Americans with Mexican ancestry launching rockets at Los Angeles, then demanding the United States government give them all of the Southwest.

Fuck Palestine and fuck anyone who backs them.
 

inachu

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I was joking because he is jewish and jews are supposed to be behind so many world conspiracies.

They are.

Kinda like the episode on Star Trek TNG. One by one people are beaming onto Enterprise and they lie saying they do not know why they are there.

Soon they take over the ship. And so the same way with any GOVT it is done the same way.

Make sure certain people are hired into position so that those people in power can hire more of only those types of people. It happens with any race of people. Birds of a feather flock together.
You can not have that if a jew only hires german people now could you?

Or the war hawk evangelical cults who also hire jews to form their own agendas.

If you can not see it then you are politically blind and or playing to be blind as to dupe more people.
 

inachu

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Don't ask legitimate questions.

This forum is filled with people so full of hate towards the Jews that nothing Israel does will ever be good enough. They honestly believe that Israel should give Palestine whatever it wants. The innocent people being blown up by bombs and mortars? That is Israel's fault.

They choose to ignore history and the facts. They don't want to admit that this whole situation started when Israel was attacked and had to defend itself. It would be like Americans with French ancestry blowing up buses in New Orleans or Americans with Mexican ancestry launching rockets at Los Angeles, then demanding the United States government give them all of the Southwest.

Fuck Palestine and fuck anyone who backs them.

That is not a totally legit question.
The Likud do not want every jew to return.
If they did that then Israel would turn brown.

The Knesset/likudniks/neocons/kahanae/zionists/evangelicals/aipac members do not want ethiopian jews to return to israel and they are 100% jews as well.

The Knesset/likudniks/neocons/kahanae/zionists/evangelicals/aipac members only want to show that jews have pink skin and not dark brown skin.
It is even mention on youtube by a Rabbi that they do not want that to happen. Or else the image of their country will turn brown.

They want to keep the big nose and pink skin. They try to hide it by making an Ethiopian woman as a token jew to win the MISS ISRAEL pageant.


http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/fa...ses-to-allow-ethiopian-jews-to-marry-123.html

More Self hating european jews in the news:
http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world...radition-of-ethiopian-jewish-priests-1.407958

There will be a very big internal fight about this. One thing for sure I know the zionists will not win at all: http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/184831#.VQgd047F9qU

Israel is for ALL JEWS not just the pink ones from europe and russia and america.

Nice article from PBS:
http://www.pbs.org/thinktank/transcript1252.html
 
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emperus

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So what is Netanyahu suppose to do, when Jews are persecuted in foreign countries? Israel is for the Jews.....
Netayahu is totally doing the right thing inviting those who wish to return home!

Do you think the World is tiring of Israel because they are just all Anti-Semites or because of the Policies of Israel that have created an Apartheid State?

Israel can begin by repairing the harm to their image around the world by bringing their actions in line with the international community. Working on a true sustainable peace with the Palestinians and coming in line with the Non proliferation Treaty.

But the truth is ISrael doesn't want peace and can't have peace. They want to annex the disputed land and can't do that if the Palestinians have a state or rights.

Isn't it peculiar that Most world leaders don't trust your chosen leader?

Btw, where is Israel going to put the people who return? Yeah, we all know. They will start another war and find more ways to bulldoze or take more disputed land.
 

emperus

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huh...so do the Palestinians want peace? Does Hamas want peace?

lets look at this differently --
so lets get this straight -- The Palestinians elected a group who has sworn to destroy Israeli. <-- you say they want Peace?

Then Hamas-- So long as Israel exists, Hamas will seek to fight it.

So who actually really wants a lasting Peace?

Most if not all of your posts reek of propaganda.
 

emperus

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You must mean a sustainable Jewish State rather than a sustainable Israel.

It's like the difference between apartheid South Africa and the South Africa of today.

I don't think Israel exists as a non-Jewish state.
 

emperus

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Most if not all of your posts reek of racism and hate.

Do you have anything better to say? You should understand a word before you use it. You don't have the faintest idea what racism means or is and throw it around as your weapon of choice. Good for you.
 

emperus

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Good Read.

The Palestinians are the last major stateless population. Stateless people do not have rights as most people understand the term. Their situation in some ways resembles slavery, since slaves also were denied the rights of citizenship. Stateless people&#8217;s property is insecure, since people with citizenship rights have better access to courts and to ruling authorities. Palestinians never really know what they own, and Israeli squatters routinely steal their property with impunity. Squatters dig tube wells deeper than those of the Palestinian villagers, lowering aquifers and causing Palestinian wells to dry up. Squatters go on wilding attacks, chopping down entire olive orchards (a prime source of Palestinian income) or beating up Palestinians. If Palestinians assemble peacefully to protest the loss of their farms to ever-expanding squatter settlements, the Israel army arrests them, including, often, children, who are taken away from their families and put in jail. Palestinians can be held for long periods without being charged. The prisoners are sometimes tortured.
Netanyahu and the Israeli right-of-center say they want to keep Palestinians homeless and without citizenship rights in a state because they fear a Palestinian state will make claims on Israel and present a security challenge. Netanyahu said Sunday that if Israel relinquished the West Bank it would become a bastion of Muslim radicalism (but West Bankers are substantially more secular than the Jewish population of West Jerusalem).
But in fact, Netanyahu and the right are dedicated to Greater Israel, to annexing the West Bank territory and finding a way to expel the Palestinians from it. The Palestinians are not a security challenge&#8211; they are like the guard at a bank getting in the way of bank robbers. The bank robbers feel a need to knock him out or kill him, remove him from the scene.
But it is shameful to have Israel preside over 4 million stateless people forever. This is Apartheid. And Netanyahu has just made Apartheid the official policy of Israel, just as South African leader P.W. Botha dedicated himself to making black South Africans stateless and without the rights of citizenship. The only fig leaf Israel had for its Apartheid was the farce of the &#8220;peace process&#8221; and a pro forma ritual invocation of a &#8220;future Palestinian state.&#8221; Now Netanyahu has ripped off the fig leaf and stands naked before the world. Botha was called by his victims the &#8220;Great Crocodile.&#8221; It would be better epithet for Netanyahu than &#8220;Bibi.&#8221;

http://www.juancole.com/2015/03/apartheid-palestinian-citizenship.html
 

HomerJS

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Looks like Bibi played the Republicans for suckers. How is Fox News going to spin out of this one?

Like I've said in other posts why does the GOP think a good Middle East foreign policy is kissing Netanyahu's ass?

Not only to I hope he loses, I hope Obama invites Herzog to the United States ASAP to address Congress!
 
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SlowSpyder

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Why is America in bed with Israel? Is it because people want Israel to exist for their religion? It always seems like Israel causes much of the pain over there, but then appeals for aid as the victim. I really don't care what they do, but I'm not clear on why we are supporting one side over the other... why don't we keep out of it?
 

rudeguy

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Why is America in bed with Israel? Is it because people want Israel to exist for their religion? It always seems like Israel causes much of the pain over there, but then appeals for aid as the victim. I really don't care what they do, but I'm not clear on why we are supporting one side over the other... why don't we keep out of it?

Here is the honest answer:

Israel came into being because millions of Jews were hunted and murdered. Not just in Germany, not solely because of Hitler. They were granted a place to be safe and secure. As soon as Israel existed, it was attacked my the nations around it. Not just a couple of rockets and kids firing mortars, it was invaded. They kicked ass and ever since their neighbors have only wanted them destroyed.

The US is an ally of Israel because its the right thing to do. Israel has a right to exist and the only reason other countries don't want it to exist is hate. Keeping out of it would mean millions of Jews being hunted and murdered again.

The better question to ask is why do we expect Israel to negotiate with terrorists who openly seek to destroy her? The US does not do that. No other country does that.