Nestle refused FDA information

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200...bi_ge/us_nestle_recall

Nestle refused FDA information, reports show

By LAUREN SHEPHERD, AP Business Writer Lauren Shepherd, Ap Business Writer ? 58 mins ago

NEW YORK ? Inspection reports from a Nestle USA cookie dough factory released Friday show the company refused several times to provide Food and Drug Administration inspectors with complaint logs, pest-control records and other information.

The records, which date back to 2004, were made public after Nestle's Toll House refrigerated, prepackaged cookie dough was discovered to be the likely culprit in an E. coli outbreak that has sickened 69 people in 29 states, according to the latest estimates from the federal Centers for Disease Control. The CDC is investigating the outbreak along with the FDA.

Nestle voluntarily recalled all Toll House refrigerated cookie dough products made at the Danville, Va., factory late last week after the FDA informed the company it suspected consumers may have been exposed to E. coli bacteria after eating the dough raw.

According to the reports released by the FDA, the company refused to allow FDA investigators access to certain documents in at least 2004, 2005, 2006 and 2007.

FDA spokeswoman Stephanie Kwisnek said the Glendale, Calif.-based unit of Switzerland-based Nestle SA had the right to do so.

"Companies have the right to make conditions on what they will or will not permit during an inspection," she said. "Some companies have a policy that they outline for the investigator at the beginning of an inspection."





Yes, the corporations can regulate themselves. They are our friends. They only want what is best for us.
I'm thinking a little socialism is good for our health, right about now.
 

Robor

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"Companies have the right to make conditions on what they will or will not permit during an inspection"

If that's the case WTF is the point?
 

RyanPaulShaffer

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Originally posted by: techs
FDA spokeswoman Stephanie Kwisnek said the Glendale, Calif.-based unit of Switzerland-based Nestle SA had the right to do so.

"Companies have the right to make conditions on what they will or will not permit during an inspection," she said. "Some companies have a policy that they outline for the investigator at the beginning of an inspection."

Wow, techs self-owned himself with his own post.

:laugh:
 

techs

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Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer
Originally posted by: techs
FDA spokeswoman Stephanie Kwisnek said the Glendale, Calif.-based unit of Switzerland-based Nestle SA had the right to do so.

"Companies have the right to make conditions on what they will or will not permit during an inspection," she said. "Some companies have a policy that they outline for the investigator at the beginning of an inspection."

Wow, techs self-owned himself with his own post.

:laugh:
No, the fact that companies can make conditions for an inspection is the problem
Geez, are you watching Fox News again?

 

techs

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Originally posted by: Robor
"Companies have the right to make conditions on what they will or will not permit during an inspection"

If that's the case WTF is the point?

Did you read what RyanPaulShaffer posted underneath your post?
Seriously, can you believe it?
 

RyanPaulShaffer

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Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer
Originally posted by: techs
FDA spokeswoman Stephanie Kwisnek said the Glendale, Calif.-based unit of Switzerland-based Nestle SA had the right to do so.

"Companies have the right to make conditions on what they will or will not permit during an inspection," she said. "Some companies have a policy that they outline for the investigator at the beginning of an inspection."

Wow, techs self-owned himself with his own post.

:laugh:
No, the fact that companies can make conditions for an inspection is the problem
Geez, are you watching Fox News again?

Let me connect the dots for you, okay? Try and keep up.

The FDA's official policy is that the company can set the conditions for the inspections.

Thus, Nestle followed the rules as set by the FDA, the governing inspection body.

They are following the rules set by the regulators.

THEY ARE FOLLOWING THE RULES AS SPECIFIED BY THE FDA.

Clear enough for you? Or should I draw pictures?

:confused:

Faux outrage at it's finest.

"NESTLE IS FOLLOWING THE FDA RULES! :thumbsdown::(:frown:"
 

techs

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Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer
Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer
Originally posted by: techs
FDA spokeswoman Stephanie Kwisnek said the Glendale, Calif.-based unit of Switzerland-based Nestle SA had the right to do so.

"Companies have the right to make conditions on what they will or will not permit during an inspection," she said. "Some companies have a policy that they outline for the investigator at the beginning of an inspection."

Wow, techs self-owned himself with his own post.

:laugh:
No, the fact that companies can make conditions for an inspection is the problem
Geez, are you watching Fox News again?

Let me connect the dots for you, okay? Try and keep up.

The FDA's official policy is that the company can set the conditions for the inspections.

Thus, Nestle followed the rules as set by the FDA, the governing inspection body.

They are following the rules set by the regulators.

THEY ARE FOLLOWING THE RULES AS SPECIFIED BY THE FDA.

Clear enough for you? Or should I draw pictures?

:confused:

Faux outrage at it's finest.

"NESTLE IS FOLLOWING THE FDA RULES! :thumbsdown::(:frown:"
Qouted as the stupid post EVAH!

 

MotF Bane

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Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer
Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer
Originally posted by: techs
FDA spokeswoman Stephanie Kwisnek said the Glendale, Calif.-based unit of Switzerland-based Nestle SA had the right to do so.

"Companies have the right to make conditions on what they will or will not permit during an inspection," she said. "Some companies have a policy that they outline for the investigator at the beginning of an inspection."

Wow, techs self-owned himself with his own post.

:laugh:
No, the fact that companies can make conditions for an inspection is the problem
Geez, are you watching Fox News again?

Let me connect the dots for you, okay? Try and keep up.

The FDA's official policy is that the company can set the conditions for the inspections.

Thus, Nestle followed the rules as set by the FDA, the governing inspection body.

They are following the rules set by the regulators.

THEY ARE FOLLOWING THE RULES AS SPECIFIED BY THE FDA.

Clear enough for you? Or should I draw pictures?

:confused:

Faux outrage at it's finest.

"NESTLE IS FOLLOWING THE FDA RULES! :thumbsdown::(:frown:"

He's saying the FDA's rules are wrong.
 

PokerGuy

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Allowing the companies to set the terms of what is inspected and what is not doesn't make any sense. The FDA needs to have a clear mandate that says what they can or can not inspect. No refusing, no setting terms and conditions etc, let the FDA do what it's supposed to do.
 

CPA

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Originally posted by: techs




I'm thinking a little socialism is good for our health, right about now.

LMAO, from you, that's got to be the understatement of the year.
 

DrPizza

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I saw the news article earlier today & am still wondering why it's news? Why the hell would any company give them anything at all? It should be a matter of policy not to give more information than they have to. "Hey, if anything goes wrong, voluntarily send us the information so we can fine you."

FDA rules may need to be changed, but that has absolutely nothing to do with Nestle.
 

Craig234

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Originally posted by: DrPizza
:confused:

I saw the news article earlier today & am still wondering why it's news? Why the hell would any company give them anything at all? It should be a matter of policy not to give more information than they have to. "Hey, if anything goes wrong, voluntarily send us the information so we can fine you."

FDA rules may need to be changed, but that has absolutely nothing to do with Nestle.

I agree with you the primary issue is the FDA rules (where I'll disagree with our righties who so happily support letting them get away with murder), but you go too far.

This doesn't have 'nothing to do' with Nestle - they still have an obligation to the customer. They *chose* not to release the information, not to take the steps needed.

(I'm ignorant about the actual circumstances of how negligent they were so won't guess).

If your state legalized murder tomorrow, and you murdered, I'd still say you were wrong.
 

fornax

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It is a well-know fact that FDA is a toothless bunny, a wholly-owned subsidiary of Monsanto, etc.; i.e., Big Agro and Big Pharma. It is stacked with former lobbyists for the same companies it supposed to supervise and regulate. A food or pharmaceutical company must poison or kill thousand of people before FDA even moves its fat, inefficient ass, and by the end the company is fined $5 and punished by having one of its officials appointed to the FDA.
 

woodie1

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Originally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: techs




I'm thinking a little socialism is good for our health, right about now.

LMAO, from you, that's got to be the understatement of the year.

...lol... At least in the top three.
 

lupi

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Originally posted by: MotF Bane
Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer
Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer
Originally posted by: techs
FDA spokeswoman Stephanie Kwisnek said the Glendale, Calif.-based unit of Switzerland-based Nestle SA had the right to do so.

"Companies have the right to make conditions on what they will or will not permit during an inspection," she said. "Some companies have a policy that they outline for the investigator at the beginning of an inspection."

Wow, techs self-owned himself with his own post.

:laugh:
No, the fact that companies can make conditions for an inspection is the problem
Geez, are you watching Fox News again?

Let me connect the dots for you, okay? Try and keep up.

The FDA's official policy is that the company can set the conditions for the inspections.

Thus, Nestle followed the rules as set by the FDA, the governing inspection body.

They are following the rules set by the regulators.

THEY ARE FOLLOWING THE RULES AS SPECIFIED BY THE FDA.

Clear enough for you? Or should I draw pictures?

:confused:

Faux outrage at it's finest.

"NESTLE IS FOLLOWING THE FDA RULES! :thumbsdown::(:frown:"

He's saying the FDA's rules are wrong.

Would have never known that from the thread title.

 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer

Let me connect the dots for you, okay? Try and keep up.

The FDA's official policy is that the company can set the conditions for the inspections.

Thus, Nestle followed the rules as set by the FDA, the governing inspection body.

They are following the rules set by the regulators.

THEY ARE FOLLOWING THE RULES AS SPECIFIED BY THE FDA.

Clear enough for you? Or should I draw pictures?

:confused:

Faux outrage at it's finest.

"NESTLE IS FOLLOWING THE FDA RULES! :thumbsdown::(:frown:"

You are the one who's dotty. His point was that there's a problem with the rules, and he's right. Or didn't you read his reply:

Originally posted by: techs

No, the fact that companies can make conditions for an inspection is the problem
Geez, are you watching Fox News again?

QFT, whether you like that truth or you actually prefer Faux News.
 

alchemize

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Nestle should be tried for manslaughter for all the babies they've killed in third world countries.
 

Mr. Lennon

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This isn't new. Food and drug companies have been paying off/dodging inspectors since the FDA's creation.

100% fruit juice is really only around 85%

Pepperoni pizza eaten with any soda forms a compound that is the recipe for a tumor.

 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: alchemize
Nestle should be tried for manslaughter for all the babies they've killed in third world countries.

They've killed the most in the U.S.? :shocked:
People in the US are educated about how breastfeeding is much better than formula (willful ignorance), and we have adequate vaccination/water/medical. So I'd say contributing to child abuse would be the crime in the US.