Nerds doomed to be losers for life?...Popular kids are paid higher

were you a popular kid or not?

  • Popular kid - I am a very successful adult

  • Popular kid - I am jobless

  • Loser kid - I am a very successful adult

  • Loser kid - I am jobless


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brainhulk

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http://gma.yahoo.com/bad-news-nerds-popular-kids-higher-paid-adults-154315409--abc-news-money.html

The popular kids earned more than their unpopular peers. How much more? "The popularity premium is substantial," the authors write. "An increase in the stock of popularity, measured by an additional friendship nomination received in high school, is associated with about 2 percent higher wages 35 years later." That premium, they write, is roughly equivalent to the benefit enjoyed by students who gained another year of schooling.

Hmmm i was neither popular nor a nerd (ok i took all ap classes in high school...lol. but i wasn't nerdy, I played high school basketball, had friends and a girlfriend)

I'm gonna have to say bullshit to this study!
 

Genx87

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Doesnt surprise me. Popular kids typically have personalities that allow them to network easier. Networking is a huge aspect of getting ahead in life.
 

HamburgerBoy

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Restricted to white males of the 50's from Wisconsin, lol.

EDIT: And it seems surprising that a 2% difference in income would be seen as significant in a social science study. Their website has a shitton of information on the students, but I can't seem to find the analysis correlating income with friend count.
 
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apac

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Was a nerdy/shy kid in HS, got to college and learned social skills, am now pretty outgoing and have a successful, lucrative career.

So young nerds, rejoice! There is still hope for you!

(unless you really like froot loops, then there is no hope)
 

waggy

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Restricted to white males of the 50's from Wisconsin, lol.

is a long-term study of a random sample of 10,317 men and women who graduated from Wisconsin high schools in 1957.


yeah..this study is outdated and not real anymore. while back then i can see it being that way. now? no.
 

bignateyk

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I wasn't what I would call popular, but wasn't unpopular or bullied either. I was more shy than anything, but took all AP classes and was into video games. I make lots of money now and have a hot wife.

I don't think popularity has everything to do with it. I think it's intelligence AND social skills. If you were popular you probably have good social skills. Combine that with intelligence and you're gonna be swimming in money. Socially awkward and smart, you'll probably make less. Popular and dumb and you'll make less.
 
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jagec

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As mentioned before, this study is somewhat out of date. However, even the nerdy/loser kids would do well for themselves to learn some social skills in college and beyond if they want to reach their full potential. Popularity in high school means nothing, but how likable you are as an adult does make a big difference in how far you're likely to get.
 

steppinthrax

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Don't really agree with this, I was bullied in H.S. and didn't really have any friends. My income is in the top 10-15% now....

I've kept track of all my H.S. alumni (jobs, gen success etc...) I'ts pretty interesting how things turn out. H.S. don't mean shit for future outlook. Some of the most unpopular one's end up doing well while the popular end up in prison.
 
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steppinthrax

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As mentioned before, this study is somewhat out of date. However, even the nerdy/loser kids would do well for themselves to learn some social skills in college and beyond if they want to reach their full potential. Popularity in high school means nothing, but how likable you are as an adult does make a big difference in how far you're likely to get.

Sociability is somewhat subjective. There are certain positions where sociability is abs necessary. However, the highest paid positions are in general the sciences. The sciences is where your going to find the most nerds and socially inept types.
 

MarkXIX

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LOL! Nope. I was a virtual unknown in my school. I had about two friends, no one else even knew me really. In fact, my senior year in high school I was very successful in my chosen sport of wrestling, so successful that I broke school records and ranked as one of the best in the state. Before the state meet they announced my accomplishments over the school loud speaker system in 1st period. As I sat there I had people who had sat next to me the entire fall semester who said "Who the hell is that?" out loud. I acknowledged that it was me and they said "Oh. Good job man, whoever the hell you are...". True story.

Today I get paid more than all of them that I've kept track of.
 

gorcorps

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Nerds reign supreme with their mastery of the computers that run our lives. This incredibly dated information is nearly worthless compared to today's society.
 

billbobaggins87

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all i got from the short portion of that which i had read was: ones social capabilities correlated with there overall income...

thanks but i figured that out already.... didn't need a in depth study to ac crew that info
 

vi edit

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2% doesn't really measure as "substantial" in my book..but whatevs.

I can certainly understand it, and believe it's just as likely today, if not more so. "Popular" people in school are usually confident (externally anyway) and outgoing. Two things that interview well. Sure there's lots of introverted nerdy/geeky people (I'm one of them!) that gets paid well in IT roles or engineering jobs but I would wager that many management/CEO level that are higher compensated are Type A personalities than Type B.
 

Vic Vega

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All the nerds I knew in school are making major bank now. Very few of the popular kids have amounted to much, a couple of them have killed themselves. Way to go!
 

jupiter57

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I call shens on that study!

Look at all the basement dwelling Nerds on this board alone.
Still in High School / Home Schooled & knocking out over $250K yr. now.

:biggrin:
 

Dumac

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HAHAHA

I don't think this applies anymore. None of the popular kids from my high school even went to college.
 

highland145

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HAHAHA

I don't think this applies anymore. None of the popular kids from my high school even went to college.
This.

The world is run differently than it was back then. Brains/technical ability/computer skills....etc
 

waggy

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HAHAHA

I don't think this applies anymore. None of the popular kids from my high school even went to college.

/this

very few of the popular kids went to college. The most popular kid in school is what i would call a loser. he did nothing with his life and is now working at a gas station.
 

dr150

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I went to a school where the popular kids were jocks....that got good grades.....that went to good schools....that got good jobs....that married good looking women....that have nice looking kids.

So win/win.

Btw, the nerds did well too.....but married women that were, um, homely.....have geeky kids.

One truth. The bullies are always the kids that never seem to do well in life (according to social standards).

It is what it is.
 

OverVolt

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Nononononono.

This is social/economic in nature. In the past, like 1950's and 1960's highschool, the nerds were the ones who make bank right now as Phd's, management in corporations, etc.

That is the basis for the idea, all these things have the basis in some truth. A belief like that doesn't just come from nowhere.

Once the economy went sour though, it was the talkative, bullshitter types who made the cut because of nepotism.

Looking out 5-10 years its going to be "oh those poor scientists they have a rough lot in life, but plumbers man they are sexy and have nice cars" because there are wayyy too many people getting Phd's and not enough Phd jobs.

Meanwhile everyone with a blue collar skill type job is average age of like 55-60, about to retire (forcibly, because they are too old for that job anymore) and no one in this generation is interested in that type of lifestyle. One of the main problems with the workforce right now is people neglecting to retire because of the economy. And Blue color jobs are going to be the first to cave. Keep that in mind when you see the 60 year old repair guy, or the 65 year old news anchors on TV now. The world is always changing.

They all wanna work in a cubicle surfing ATOT and just cut checks for anything that actually needs to be fixed. Like when Mike Rowe did his senate testimony
"In a hundred different ways, we have slowly marginalized an entire category of critical professions, reshaping our expectations of a "good job" into something that no longer looks like work. A few years from now, an hour with a good plumber, if you can find one is going to cost more than an hour with a good psychiatrist. At which point we'll all be in need of both."

Social "wisdom" follows the money. But with a large lag time.
 
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