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Sultan

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Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Sultan
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Sultan
Oh, you believe... I see... did the Oracle tell you this? Or do you carefully listen to the demands of these hostage takers. What do they say? Allah commands you to do this, otherwise Allah commands me to kill this man in the name of Islam? :p

Good for you to know something I never knew.

No, it's common sense. You want to completely ignore the motivation or reasons. I don't.

They have made references in their statements, videos and statements released on extremist Islamic websites, recent history, links to other religious extremist groups and so forth. I believe that is enough. If that makes you angry, then too bad.

Again, they have demanded the firms representing the hostages should withdraw from Iraq. How is that "Muslim extremism"? Common sense dictates they want foreigners out of Iraq, even if they are Muslim as in the case of the Pakistani truck drivers. If doesnt make me angry, it makes you look stupid.

Pick up the newspaper. Read up on the subject.

Some of these groups have stated their religious intent in their statements, they are linked to other groups with religious intent, release their statemetns and videos on religious extremist websites, recent history, and so on.

Common sense says that with all of the above as well as statements saying that this was done because the US and its allies are attacking Islam and Muslims, then it seems fine to label these people are Muslim extremists.

Yes, these people probably do want foreigners out - probably because of religious reasons.

I just read on BBC that 7 hostages were released after the firm they worked for paid the ransom demanded. So you're quite stupid in calling hostage takers demanding ransom "Muslim extremists". Maybe you should start reading up newspapers and all with an open mind.

Do you visit all these religious extemist websites? And do you have the recorded statements? Please provide some reference. How stupid that these Muslim extremists make the claim that they are taking Nepali hostages because the US and its allies - Nepal not being one of them - attacked Islam :roll:

Forget common sense. Why dont you give me a proof that says these people are acting out as "Muslim extremists". Without proof, your argument is baseless, and makes you look stupid.
 

Sultan

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Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Sultan
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Sultan
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Sultan
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Sultan
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Sultan
The actions of the minority should serve as a warning for those wanting to risk their lives. Mob rule is not always right. Tell that to our government, and the British government and the Aussie government.

As I have already stated, the people who have been killed have mostly been truckers and hired help from outside of the country. No reports of foreigners with established business being killed has come out.

If you're going to use the actions of the minority as a warning, then that's a hell of a lot of warnings.

Nick Berg was killed and he was not a truck driver.

Yes, it is a hell of a lot of warnings. Foreigners should take heed.

Nick Berg... interesting you should bring him up... wasnt his death extreeeemely suspicious? He was arrested, then let go, then found dead in his prison clothes and all? Anyways, irrelevant to this topic.

Yes, but that's a lot of warnings even here in the US or any other country that you go to all around the world.

what? :confused:

There are lots of minority (in ideals) groups all over the world in every single country that hates lots of types of people. That's a lot of warnings.

but not a lot of beheadings :confused:


Lots of murders and crimes though.

not as warnings though

Sure they are.

Suuuuuuuuuure they are :roll:
 
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Originally posted by: Sultan
I just read on BBC that 7 hostages were released after the firm they worked for paid the ransom demanded. So you're quite stupid in calling hostage takers demanding ransom "Muslim extremists". Maybe you should start reading up newspapers and all with an open mind.

Do you visit all these religious extemist websites? And do you have the recorded statements? Please provide some reference. How stupid that these Muslim extremists make the claim that they are taking Nepali hostages because the US and its allies - Nepal not being one of them - attacked Islam :roll:

Forget common sense. Why dont you give me a proof that says these people are acting out as "Muslim extremists". Without proof, your argument is baseless, and makes you look stupid.

I read on the BBC that 12 hostages from Nepal were killed.

Because one group set some hostages free that means that all other groups are not Muslim extremists?

No, I don't visit the religious extremist websites, but their statements and videos are often released on these websites. It is clearly reported. However, I do read statements as well as details of some of these groups on news websites and they are clearly coming from a religious viewpoint.

Yes, it is stupid that these Muslim extremists killed these people from Nepal. However, these Muslim extremists are obviously not very intelligent people.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/08/31/iraq.main/

Jaish Ansar al-Sunna, which claimed August 23 to have kidnapped the 12 Nepalis, said they were killed "for their cooperation with the United States in fighting Islam and its people."

This is clearly a religious extremism and the killings were done in what they perceive as defense of their religion. Even looking up this group's name seems of religious intent. Do you not bother to read these articles?

The above quote from their statement, the statements from other extremists, their affiliation to other groups, placement of statements and videos on extremist religious websites, recent history, and so on justifies my describing them as Muslim Extremists.
 

CycloWizard

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Originally posted by: Sultan
Again, they have demanded the firms representing the hostages should withdraw from Iraq. How is that "Muslim extremism"? Common sense dictates they want foreigners out of Iraq, even if they are Muslim as in the case of the Pakistani truck drivers. If doesnt make me angry, it makes you look stupid.
It's extremism because taking hostages is extremist behavior, period. Why is this so difficult?
 
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Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Originally posted by: Sultan
Again, they have demanded the firms representing the hostages should withdraw from Iraq. How is that "Muslim extremism"? Common sense dictates they want foreigners out of Iraq, even if they are Muslim as in the case of the Pakistani truck drivers. If doesnt make me angry, it makes you look stupid.
It's extremism because taking hostages is extremist behavior, period. Why is this so difficult?

He is hanging up on the Muslim Extremists part. He apparently takes offense when someone mentions Muslim and Extremist in conjunction with each other.

He may not like it, but I believe it's clearly justified.
 

Crimson

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Why is it that the liberal left on this board are SOOOO tolerant of muslim extremists, but if a Christian DARES to suggest that abortion is wrong, or we should have the 10 commandments in a court house, you all go into a frenzy? Can someone explain that to me?
 

Infohawk

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Crimson, we've talked about your strawman problem.

Who is tolerant of muslim extremists here?
 

Sultan

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read on the BBC that 12 hostages from Nepal were killed.

Because one group set some hostages free that means that all other groups are not Muslim extremists?

No, I don't visit the religious extremist websites, but their statements and videos are often released on these websites. It is clearly reported. However, I do read statements as well as details of some of these groups on news websites and they are clearly coming from a religious viewpoint.

Yes, it is stupid that these Muslim extremists killed these people from Nepal. However, these Muslim extremists are obviously not very intelligent people.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/08/31/iraq.main/

Because one group takes cover behind religion, all hostage takers are "Muslim extremists"?

Here's an alternate viewpoint that the one you give in your link:
Link

The statements and videos are also released on Al-Jazeera and many other Arabic news channels. Are they also "Muslim extremists"?

I think you're quite stupid to start labelling hostage takers. I think the killing of the Nepali people served as an example for foreigners not to enter the country illegally. By the way, Nepalis are prohibited from going to Iraq
Link

What do you say to the (majority) "Christian extremist" army who just killed 12 - 17 in Falluja, including women and children? Did they deserve to die? Start a new thread condemning these actions and I'll follow your lead.
 

Shockwave

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Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Originally posted by: Sultan
Ofcourse!!! Its not Halliburton which has the contracts. Its not the subsidiary, whatever its name is which also has the contracts. Its not Cheney who has ties to these companies. $80 million a day is nothing? :Q Ofcourse it isnt. Its just $29 billion a year :Q Absolutely nothing. Watch BBC, not Fox.
Learn wtf you're talking about before you start spouting 'facts.' 2 MMBPD is child's play for a major oil company. Oh hell, never mind. Proceed in ignorance - you're obviously not taking anything from the discussion.

Haliburton didnt exist until Bush came to Presidency. Haliburton had NO contracts before the war...... Dont confuse the issue with facts.... ;)
 

Shockwave

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
Crimson, we've talked about your strawman problem.

Who is tolerant of muslim extremists here?

I'm not tolerant of ANYTHING even remotely related to the Islamic religion. Not the extremists, and nott he "peaceful" ones who exist within our own country and other countries abroad.
 

CycloWizard

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Originally posted by: Sultan
read on the BBC that 12 hostages from Nepal were killed.

Because one group set some hostages free that means that all other groups are not Muslim extremists?

No, I don't visit the religious extremist websites, but their statements and videos are often released on these websites. It is clearly reported. However, I do read statements as well as details of some of these groups on news websites and they are clearly coming from a religious viewpoint.

Yes, it is stupid that these Muslim extremists killed these people from Nepal. However, these Muslim extremists are obviously not very intelligent people.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/08/31/iraq.main/

Because one group takes cover behind religion, all hostage takers are "Muslim extremists"?

Here's an alternate viewpoint that the one you give in your link:
Link

The statements and videos are also released on Al-Jazeera and many other Arabic news channels. Are they also "Muslim extremists"?

I think you're quite stupid to start labelling hostage takers. I think the killing of the Nepali people served as an example for foreigners not to enter the country illegally. By the way, Nepalis are prohibited from going to Iraq
Link

What do you say to the (majority) "Christian extremist" army who just killed 12 - 17 in Falluja, including women and children? Did they deserve to die? Start a new thread condemning these actions and I'll follow your lead.
Not all hostage takers are Muslim extremists - only Muslim hostage takers are Muslim extemists. I would just as readily call Christian hostage takers Christian extremists, or Jewish hostage takers Jewish extremists, IF their religion were used for justification.
 

Sultan

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Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Originally posted by: Sultan
read on the BBC that 12 hostages from Nepal were killed.

Because one group set some hostages free that means that all other groups are not Muslim extremists?

No, I don't visit the religious extremist websites, but their statements and videos are often released on these websites. It is clearly reported. However, I do read statements as well as details of some of these groups on news websites and they are clearly coming from a religious viewpoint.

Yes, it is stupid that these Muslim extremists killed these people from Nepal. However, these Muslim extremists are obviously not very intelligent people.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/08/31/iraq.main/

Because one group takes cover behind religion, all hostage takers are "Muslim extremists"?

Here's an alternate viewpoint that the one you give in your link:
Link

The statements and videos are also released on Al-Jazeera and many other Arabic news channels. Are they also "Muslim extremists"?

I think you're quite stupid to start labelling hostage takers. I think the killing of the Nepali people served as an example for foreigners not to enter the country illegally. By the way, Nepalis are prohibited from going to Iraq
Link

What do you say to the (majority) "Christian extremist" army who just killed 12 - 17 in Falluja, including women and children? Did they deserve to die? Start a new thread condemning these actions and I'll follow your lead.
Not all hostage takers are Muslim extremists - only Muslim hostage takers are Muslim extemists. I would just as readily call Christian hostage takers Christian extremists, or Jewish hostage takers Jewish extremists, IF their religion were used for justification.

As in Mr. Bush and his "Crusade"?? :)
 

Sultan

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Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Crimson, we've talked about your strawman problem.

Who is tolerant of muslim extremists here?

I'm not tolerant of ANYTHING even remotely related to the Islamic religion. Not the extremists, and nott he "peaceful" ones who exist within our own country and other countries abroad.

Either contribute something worthwhile or stop trolling. Idiot.
 
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Originally posted by: Sultan
read on the BBC that 12 hostages from Nepal were killed.

Because one group set some hostages free that means that all other groups are not Muslim extremists?

No, I don't visit the religious extremist websites, but their statements and videos are often released on these websites. It is clearly reported. However, I do read statements as well as details of some of these groups on news websites and they are clearly coming from a religious viewpoint.

Yes, it is stupid that these Muslim extremists killed these people from Nepal. However, these Muslim extremists are obviously not very intelligent people.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/08/31/iraq.main/

Because one group takes cover behind religion, all hostage takers are "Muslim extremists"?

Here's an alternate viewpoint that the one you give in your link:
Link

The statements and videos are also released on Al-Jazeera and many other Arabic news channels. Are they also "Muslim extremists"?

I think you're quite stupid to start labelling hostage takers. I think the killing of the Nepali people served as an example for foreigners not to enter the country illegally. By the way, Nepalis are prohibited from going to Iraq
Link

What do you say to the (majority) "Christian extremist" army who just killed 12 - 17 in Falluja, including women and children? Did they deserve to die? Start a new thread condemning these actions and I'll follow your lead.

Who said that all hostage takers are Muslim extremists? I don't believe that. However, groups that use religion as one of their justifications are religious extremists. In these cases they are Muslim extremists.

Now that I have proved you wrong, I hope that you will now accept the term Muslim extremists. I seriously cannot believe that you did not realize that some of these groups used religious ideas as justification for their actions. I guess it just shows how blind some people can be.

BTW, it doesn't matter if these people from Nepal are prohibited to go to Iraq. I don't care. It doesn't matter. Stop trying to justify their deaths. Just because they were likely not Muslim doesn't mean that they should have died. Learn to be more accepting. Non-Muslims are people, too.
 
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Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Originally posted by: Sultan
read on the BBC that 12 hostages from Nepal were killed.

Because one group set some hostages free that means that all other groups are not Muslim extremists?

No, I don't visit the religious extremist websites, but their statements and videos are often released on these websites. It is clearly reported. However, I do read statements as well as details of some of these groups on news websites and they are clearly coming from a religious viewpoint.

Yes, it is stupid that these Muslim extremists killed these people from Nepal. However, these Muslim extremists are obviously not very intelligent people.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/08/31/iraq.main/

Because one group takes cover behind religion, all hostage takers are "Muslim extremists"?

Here's an alternate viewpoint that the one you give in your link:
Link

The statements and videos are also released on Al-Jazeera and many other Arabic news channels. Are they also "Muslim extremists"?

I think you're quite stupid to start labelling hostage takers. I think the killing of the Nepali people served as an example for foreigners not to enter the country illegally. By the way, Nepalis are prohibited from going to Iraq
Link

What do you say to the (majority) "Christian extremist" army who just killed 12 - 17 in Falluja, including women and children? Did they deserve to die? Start a new thread condemning these actions and I'll follow your lead.
Not all hostage takers are Muslim extremists - only Muslim hostage takers are Muslim extemists. I would just as readily call Christian hostage takers Christian extremists, or Jewish hostage takers Jewish extremists, IF their religion were used for justification.

Exactly. If they use their religion as their justification...don't know why some people can't understand that.
 

CanOWorms

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Originally posted by: Sultan
Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Crimson, we've talked about your strawman problem.

Who is tolerant of muslim extremists here?

I'm not tolerant of ANYTHING even remotely related to the Islamic religion. Not the extremists, and nott he "peaceful" ones who exist within our own country and other countries abroad.

Either contribute something worthwhile or stop trolling. Idiot.

lol, you two have a lot in common

He is unaccepting of Islam.
You are unaccepting of anything that is not Islam.
 

Shockwave

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Originally posted by: Sultan
Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Crimson, we've talked about your strawman problem.

Who is tolerant of muslim extremists here?

I'm not tolerant of ANYTHING even remotely related to the Islamic religion. Not the extremists, and nott he "peaceful" ones who exist within our own country and other countries abroad.

Either contribute something worthwhile or stop trolling. Idiot.

You want contributions?? OK.

Why is it the Muslim community as a whole as been strangely silent on the whole terrorist issue? Seems to me if their own people are doing these acts they should at LEAST step forward and denounce them.
Why is it mosques EVEN IN AMERICA have been found to be supporting terrorist groups? You think Muslims the world over dont give money and support? You think they dont sit around and have coffee themselves and talk about the "good" the terrorists are doing for the Muslim religion?
Why is it the Muslims offer their own mosques as a base of operations? Why is it the Muslim religious leaders even support the terrorists?
Why is it the Muslim religion teaches, to put it bluntly, convert or kill? And the Islamic community as a whole doesnt do ANYTHING to change that outlook?

It seems to me what we have here is a religion thats hell bent on world domination. And the silent "peaceful" Muslims are just as guilty as those killing children. They may not be out planting bombs, but their giving their support nonetheless by offering their places of worship, by helping with monetary donations, by their religious leaders not denoucning the terrrorists and generally turning a blind eye to what the "extremists" are doing.

You wonder why I think the Islamic religion is a poison to mankind? You just found out. From where I stand, their ALL guilty until they at least TRY to prove their innocence by at a minimum denouncing those terrorists and their actions. That'd be a DAMNED good start to leading me to believe the islamic religion is indeed a "peaceful" religion.
Until then......
Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnoset
 

Sultan

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Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Sultan
read on the BBC that 12 hostages from Nepal were killed.

Because one group set some hostages free that means that all other groups are not Muslim extremists?

No, I don't visit the religious extremist websites, but their statements and videos are often released on these websites. It is clearly reported. However, I do read statements as well as details of some of these groups on news websites and they are clearly coming from a religious viewpoint.

Yes, it is stupid that these Muslim extremists killed these people from Nepal. However, these Muslim extremists are obviously not very intelligent people.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/08/31/iraq.main/

Because one group takes cover behind religion, all hostage takers are "Muslim extremists"?

Here's an alternate viewpoint that the one you give in your link:
Link

The statements and videos are also released on Al-Jazeera and many other Arabic news channels. Are they also "Muslim extremists"?

I think you're quite stupid to start labelling hostage takers. I think the killing of the Nepali people served as an example for foreigners not to enter the country illegally. By the way, Nepalis are prohibited from going to Iraq
Link

What do you say to the (majority) "Christian extremist" army who just killed 12 - 17 in Falluja, including women and children? Did they deserve to die? Start a new thread condemning these actions and I'll follow your lead.

Who said that all hostage takers are Muslim extremists? I don't believe that. However, groups that use religion as one of their justifications are religious extremists. In these cases they are Muslim extremists.

Now that I have proved you wrong, I hope that you will now accept the term Muslim extremists. I seriously cannot believe that you did not realize that some of these groups used religious ideas as justification for their actions. I guess it just shows how blind some people can be.

BTW, it doesn't matter if these people from Nepal are prohibited to go to Iraq. I don't care. It doesn't matter. Stop trying to justify their deaths. Just because they were likely not Muslim doesn't mean that they should have died. Learn to be more accepting. Non-Muslims are people, too.

Do you have the authority to label who is and isnt a "Muslim extremist"? You never seem to label our "Christian extremist", Mr. Bush, who went on a "crusade" for you have admitted to be an occupation for power and money.

I have not justified anyone's death. Please stop putting words into my mouth, as I have repeatedly asked you to do. These people took a risk to go to Iraq, illegally, for profit. They knew the risks of their actions. While you're moaning about my views about extremism, I never see you look on the opposite side of the spectrum which I have again and again highlighted, such as the deaths in Falluja today, or the actions of those at Abu Gharib (where a few died under torture)...
 

Sultan

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Why is it the Muslim community as a whole as been strangely silent on the whole terrorist issue? Seems to me if their own people are doing these acts they should at LEAST step forward and denounce them.

I'm not silent. I have spoken against American terrorism in Iraq. After foreign presence leaves, the Iraqis can put their house in order by themselves.

Why is it mosques EVEN IN AMERICA have been found to be supporting terrorist groups? You think Muslims the world over dont give money and support? You think they dont sit around and have coffee themselves and talk about the "good" the terrorists are doing for the Muslim religion?

I dont know which mosques you go to. I've been to numerous mosques all over and have not heard any so called sermons preaching terrorism or the mosques supporting terrorism. The Global Relief Foundation is one of the charitable organizations wrongly accused of contributing monetarily to terrorism. It has absolutely nothing to do with terrorism. Just because the money goes to Afghanistan (a heavily impoverished nation) or African nations with Muslim majority does not mean it is supporting terrorism. Here's a concept for you: even the United States intelligence and justice system can get it wrong.

Why is it the Muslims offer their own mosques as a base of operations? Why is it the Muslim religious leaders even support the terrorists?

Again, I dont know which mosque you speak of. And I dont know which religious leader you speak of. If you provide me with more information, I can rebute your baseless charges.

Why is it the Muslim religion teaches, to put it bluntly, convert or kill? And the Islamic community as a whole doesnt do ANYTHING to change that outlook?

An incorrect assumption. In a very brief synopsis, (where I list no pre-conditions - there are many), the above statement was meant for those who wage war against the Muslim nation. If what you say WAS true, you would not find ANY non-Muslim in India - where Muslim mogul ruled for quite a few hundred years.

From where I stand, their ALL guilty until they at least TRY to prove their innocence by at a minimum denouncing those terrorists and their actions.

From where you stand, you have no understanding of the religion. Nor do you have any understanding of the culture of the Middle Eastern States. And you must be one of the 50% of dumb@sses who still thinks Iraq has WMD and/or Saddam was instrumental in 9/11. Hey, guess what, our actions in Iraq have just given many hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people a reason to attack this nation in its own borders again.
 

Sultan

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Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Originally posted by: Sultan
read on the BBC that 12 hostages from Nepal were killed.

Because one group set some hostages free that means that all other groups are not Muslim extremists?

No, I don't visit the religious extremist websites, but their statements and videos are often released on these websites. It is clearly reported. However, I do read statements as well as details of some of these groups on news websites and they are clearly coming from a religious viewpoint.

Yes, it is stupid that these Muslim extremists killed these people from Nepal. However, these Muslim extremists are obviously not very intelligent people.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/08/31/iraq.main/

Because one group takes cover behind religion, all hostage takers are "Muslim extremists"?

Here's an alternate viewpoint that the one you give in your link:
Link

The statements and videos are also released on Al-Jazeera and many other Arabic news channels. Are they also "Muslim extremists"?

I think you're quite stupid to start labelling hostage takers. I think the killing of the Nepali people served as an example for foreigners not to enter the country illegally. By the way, Nepalis are prohibited from going to Iraq
Link

What do you say to the (majority) "Christian extremist" army who just killed 12 - 17 in Falluja, including women and children? Did they deserve to die? Start a new thread condemning these actions and I'll follow your lead.
Not all hostage takers are Muslim extremists - only Muslim hostage takers are Muslim extemists. I would just as readily call Christian hostage takers Christian extremists, or Jewish hostage takers Jewish extremists, IF their religion were used for justification.

Exactly. If they use their religion as their justification...don't know why some people can't understand that.



Originally posted by: Sultan

As in Mr. Bush and his "Crusade"??
 
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Originally posted by: Sultan
Do you have the authority to label who is and isnt a "Muslim extremist"? You never seem to label our "Christian extremist", Mr. Bush, who went on a "crusade" for you have admitted to be an occupation for power and money.

Why do I need authority to label anyone a Muslim extremist? I'm sorry, I didn't realize that I need permission to speak my own mind, especially when it is backed up with facts.

If you want to call Bush a christian extremist, then go ahead and call him that. I have no qualms with that. You and him are both religious fundamentalists. You're just like a hardcore christian fundamentalist that attacks anyone that is critical to anything even remotely related to christianity - but in your case it is Islam. You obviously are very religious and take offense when someone combines the words Muslim and extremist. Well I'm sorry, but that perfectly describes some of these people.

If you want to call the IRA Christian extremists, then go ahead. That's probably what they are.

I guess you want a religious edict that says I have permission to speak. Sorry, but things don't fly that way here. Isn't it a great country?

I have not justified anyone's death. Please stop putting words into my mouth, as I have repeatedly asked you to do. These people took a risk to go to Iraq, illegally, for profit. They knew the risks of their actions. While you're moaning about my views about extremism, I never see you look on the opposite side of the spectrum which I have again and again highlighted, such as the deaths in Falluja today, or the actions of those at Abu Gharib (where a few died under torture)...

Suuuuurre. :disgust:

I've talked bout Abu Ghraib. I've never seen you post about it. Have you posted in every single thread in this entire forum where anyone died?
 
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Originally posted by: Sultan
Exactly. If they use their religion as their justification...don't know why some people can't understand that.



Originally posted by: Sultan

As in Mr. Bush and his "Crusade"??
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What part of it do you not understand?

Sheesh, you fundies are crazy.
 

Sultan

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Why do I need authority to label anyone a Muslim extremist? I'm sorry, I didn't realize that I need permission to speak my own mind, especially when it is backed up with facts.

If you want to call Bush a christian extremist, then go ahead and call him that. I have no qualms with that. You and him are both religious fundamentalists. You're just like a hardcore christian fundamentalist that attacks anyone that is critical to anything even remotely related to christianity - but in your case it is Islam. You obviously are very religious and take offense when someone combines the words Muslim and extremist. Well I'm sorry, but that perfectly describes some of these people.

If you want to call the IRA Christian extremists, then go ahead. That's probably what they are.

I guess you want a religious edict that says I have permission to speak. Sorry, but things don't fly that way here. Isn't it a great country?

My qualm is you are very biaed and intolerant towards Islam and Muslims. I've not seen you call the IRA Christian extremists, nor Mr. Bush. I, as opposed to you, do not label actions of human beings to the religion they practice. Hey, the entire state of Israel, a Jewish state has been persecuting the Palestinians for ages. But I dont label them to be "Jewish extremists". You on the other hand feel very happy at associating a religion to an individual or a groups actions. And to think you were calling me an intolerant person, maybe you should look in the mirror for a bit. :roll:

Suuuuurre.

I've talked bout Abu Ghraib. I've never seen you post about it. Have you posted in every single thread in this entire forum where anyone died?

What reason for me posting anything about Abu Gharib? I have not seen any of your post regarding that issue, nor have I posted in every single thread in which someone died, and the point of it being...?