Neo2 Plat. or A8V Deluxe?

exploitedcs

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Hi everyone.

I'm planning on upgrading to a socket 939 CPU in the near future and I wanted to hear some opinions on what motherboard to buy. I've done some research and read reviews but I just wanted to know what your guys' opinions on these motherboards are. Any comments or suggestions would be appreciated. And yes, I do plan on overclocking and all that good stuff. Thanks.
 

Hyperlite

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The MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum is arguably the best skt939 overclocking platform money can buy. Next in line would probably be A DFI Lanparty, though i don't know its exact model.
 

Mrvile

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Hmm, if you are planning on rebuilding completely you should consider an NF4 board, because those will be around longer than NF3's. They support PCI-e, and some have SLI. I would probably get either the DFI Lanparty UT for OCing, or the Asus one for stability.

As for the NF3 motherboards, the MSI is the best OCing NF3 motherboard out right now, followed closely by the DFI one (don't remember the name either). For stability, Asus is the best option.
 

Hyperlite

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the only problem with going NF4 is that the OP probably doesn't have a pci-e vid card unless he is upgrading that too...
 

Duvie

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Originally posted by: Hyperlite
The MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum is arguably the best skt939 overclocking platform money can buy. Next in line would probably be A DFI Lanparty, though i don't know its exact model.


I agree...that and I would never buy a VIa chipset.....personal opinion but nvidia boards are the leaders here...
 

Mrvile

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What the heck happened to VIA anyway, whatever happened to their K8T890?
 

exploitedcs

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Thanks for the comments and I bought a 6800gt AGP a few months ago so the chances of me going pci-e are pretty slim.
 

Mrvile

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Ahh ok. Well if you plan on OCing go with the MSI K8N Neo2 Plat. There are stories of the board being unstable as f, I used it in my first build ever, and I had to RMA it once :p but the second one is solid as a rock, OCs beautifully.
 

Fenuxx

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Well, speaking out of personal experience (with the Neo2, I mean), I would say go for the Neo2. Why over the A8V, you ask? One word: VIA. While I will admit that VIA has gotten alot better in the past few years, they are still by no means great. I have owned several VIA based mobos over the years (simply because until now, I haven't had the option, and VIA was the cheapest way to go, unfortunately). From a Slot 1-based VIA mobo (for Pentium II\III CPU's), to a Socket 370 VIA board, and even a Pentium 4 board (in the form of the P4X400). Each of the boards were progressively better than the last as far as stability was concerned, but were still finicky sometimes. The best mobo, by a close margin, was an Intel 440BX (IMHO, the chipset of ALL chipsets) board that I bought to replace the dead VIA-based Slot 1 board that "I killed" by flashing the BIOS (yes, it was for that board, I'm not that stupid :p ). I figured I'd give VIA one last try with the P4X400 board, which, ironically, was a VIA branded board. It was OK, but it was slow. DDR400 performed like just above DDR266 in speeds, and I was using good Corsair memory, and it was buggy as hell. I clawed and scratched for every new chipset driver, and downloaded them the day they came out, but it was essentially useless, as it was still buggy and underperforming.

Though all you Athlon fanbois out there do owe a debt of gratitude to VIA, as the Athlon wouldn't be what it is today without VIA's " good ol' " KT-Series chipsets. Hell, I'd even go so far as to saying that AMD may not even be around without VIA's help with the Athlon. But, times have changed, fortunately.

I can't say the same about my nForce3-based Neo2. This thing matches my old 440BX in everything, and is only second to it because, well, the 440BX was first :p . In all seriousness, this thing is rock solid. The only crashes I've had are my own damn fault, and nothing more. It overclocks like a b!tch, and I'm on my way to getting 2.6GHz out of my good ol' Winnie. I am very impressed with this board, and it will definitely be sad for me to see it go when it does, and even then, I'll probably just demote it to a backup box, instead of tossing it, or giving it to my Grandma :p . So, below, I have my personal "ranks" for chipset manufacturers:

--AMD--

1.) NVIDIA
2.) ATI
3.) AMD (some of their chipsets have been great)
4.) VIA
5.) SiS
6.) ALi

--Intel--

1.) Intel
2.) NVIDIA (when they come out with their nForce4 "Intel Edition")
3.) ATI
4.) VIA
5.) SiS
6.) ALi

So, there you have it. My list in order of my opinion of the best chipset manufacturers out there. Some may not agree, but again, this is MY opinion.
 

Mrvile

Lifer
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Originally posted by: geforcetony
Well, speaking out of personal experience (with the Neo2, I mean), I would say go for the Neo2. Why over the A8V, you ask? One word: VIA. While I will admit that VIA has gotten alot better in the past few years, they are still by no means great. I have owned several VIA based mobos over the years (simply because until now, I haven't had the option, and VIA was the cheapest way to go, unfortunately). From a Slot 1-based VIA mobo (for Pentium II\III CPU's), to a Socket 370 VIA board, and even a Pentium 4 board (in the form of the P4X400). Each of the boards were progressively better than the last as far as stability was concerned, but were still finicky sometimes. The best mobo, by a close margin, was an Intel 440BX (IMHO, the chipset of ALL chipsets) board that I bought to replace the dead VIA-based Slot 1 board that "I killed" by flashing the BIOS (yes, it was for that board, I'm not that stupid :p ). I figured I'd give VIA one last try with the P4X400 board, which, ironically, was a VIA branded board. It was OK, but it was slow. DDR400 performed like just above DDR266 in speeds, and I was using good Corsair memory, and it was buggy as hell. I clawed and scratched for every new chipset driver, and downloaded them the day they came out, but it was essentially useless, as it was still buggy and underperforming.

Though all you Athlon fanbois out there do owe a debt of gratitude to VIA, as the Athlon wouldn't be what it is today without VIA's " good ol' " KT-Series chipsets. Hell, I'd even go so far as to saying that AMD may not even be around without VIA's help with the Athlon. But, times have changed, fortunately.

I can't say the same about my nForce3-based Neo2. This thing matches my old 440BX in everything, and is only second to it because, well, the 440BX was first :p . In all seriousness, this thing is rock solid. The only crashes I've had are my own damn fault, and nothing more. It overclocks like a b!tch, and I'm on my way to getting 2.6GHz out of my good ol' Winnie. I am very impressed with this board, and it will definitely be sad for me to see it go when it does, and even then, I'll probably just demote it to a backup box, instead of tossing it, or giving it to my Grandma :p . So, below, I have my personal "ranks" for chipset manufacturers:

--AMD--

1.) NVIDIA
2.) ATI
3.) AMD (some of their chipsets have been great)
4.) VIA
5.) SiS
6.) ALi

--Intel--

1.) Intel
2.) NVIDIA (when they come out with their nForce4 "Intel Edition")
3.) ATI
4.) VIA
5.) SiS
6.) ALi

So, there you have it. My list in order of my opinion of the best chipset manufacturers out there. Some may not agree, but again, this is MY opinion.

Cliffnotes:

IBM beat by Dell, HP. Life moved on. VIA beat by nForce. Life moved on. Get the Neo2.
 

Jeff7181

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I like my Neo2 Platinum... I have a few complaints about it...

-No MOSFET cooling... although there's pleanty of room to add some good size heatsinks.
-RAM voltage only goes up to 2.85... being more of an overclocker's board, it should go up to 3.0 at least, but I guess it's kinda old, before OCZ made everyone realize 2.85 is NOT the upper limit of all RAM
-Only 4 RAM dividers... makes it difficult to fine tune an overclock
-SATA ports 1&2 are NOT locked... so you must use 3&4 while overclocking, and if you have more than 2 SATA devices, you're pretty much screwed into getting a PCI card if you want to use all your drives
 

timecop67

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Have heard that Asus is coming out with a new motherboard very soon called the Premium A8N SLI that replaces their latest SLI attempt. I'd wait on that. I bought the Soltek 890 for stability but I know it doesn't quite have the performance as the Nforce4 stuff. Also no fan on the chipset and suppose to run cool. Might switch it out for the the Asus if I don't like the performance of the Soltek later on.
 

Mrvile

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Originally posted by: Jeff7181
I like my Neo2 Platinum... I have a few complaints about it...

-No MOSFET cooling... although there's pleanty of room to add some good size heatsinks.
-RAM voltage only goes up to 2.85... being more of an overclocker's board, it should go up to 3.0 at least, but I guess it's kinda old, before OCZ made everyone realize 2.85 is NOT the upper limit of all RAM
-Only 4 RAM dividers... makes it difficult to fine tune an overclock
-SATA ports 1&2 are NOT locked... so you must use 3&4 while overclocking, and if you have more than 2 SATA devices, you're pretty much screwed into getting a PCI card if you want to use all your drives

Probably my biggest complaint. However, I use DDR500 ram, so I dont have too much to worry about, I just need to set it down to 166 and it can run pretty much any FSB.

About the SATA ports, I never knew that. I had used port 1 for a few weeks when I first built my comp, and had everything OC'd. I guess I was really lucky, cuz the hard drive came out fine. Now I use port 3 for better cable management, but I guess I had better watch out a bit more next time ;)