neighbors live in the most expensive house on the block

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: Ktulu

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Queasy
Had the same thing happen with my next door neighbor. The couple wasn't married and the husband owned a restaurant and bought a Harley and a giant Nissan SUV close to one another. They were also looking for a $300k to $500k house. In the meantime, both their kids were on Georgia's Peach Care program and the mom used the state's healthcare program to pay for her pregnancy and childbirth.

I think I posted about it here actually.

They are indeed assholes, but I don't know if what they're doing is technically illegal. It's certainly abusing the program and public funds, but is it actually illegal?

I seriously doubt that they're being honest when filling out any forms. So wouldn't it be illegal to lie to the government? Isn't that fraud?

If they're being dishonest when filling out forms, then they are certainly breaking the law. But if they are not "married" so to speak, and file taxes seperately, how is it illegal?

 

[FoBoT]

they probably work "off the books" , gray or black market "cash" jobs or self employed that don't do their accounting so they don't report income correctly


they'll end up in FPMITAP when the IRS catches them

 

[steppinthrax]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Queasy
Had the same thing happen with my next door neighbor. The couple wasn't married and the husband owned a restaurant and bought a Harley and a giant Nissan SUV close to one another. They were also looking for a $300k to $500k house. In the meantime, both their kids were on Georgia's Peach Care program and the mom used the state's healthcare program to pay for her pregnancy and childbirth.

I think I posted about it here actually.

They are indeed assholes, but I don't know if what they're doing is technically illegal. It's certainly abusing the program and public funds, but is it actually illegal?

My wife and I took the time to report a couple who was doing similar. They were both working under table and making good money at a food distributing company. They had a car and a small townhouse and 2 children. They were getting state sponsored medical assistance from the govt designed for low income persons. Their income combined I would say was at least 50 or 60K. Not only that...

Both of them were on visas and they paid a company a large some of money to sponsor their H1-B visa into a green card. Unfortunatley you have to work at the company of course to do this.

I contacted and reported them and even had inside information about them to the appropriate authorities (I.E. USCIS, IRS, and State regulators fraud hotline). But that was 3 years ago and absolutley nothing happened.

 

[IGBT]

Originally posted by: MrChad
Sounds like fraud to me.

..it's "progressive!!"

 

[Capt Caveman]

Report them!!!

 

[FoBoT]

Originally posted by: daveymark
The dad owns a landscaping business and makes a bunch of money.

i missed that
cash business, he doesn't report his income

so if he makes $50,000 in cash each year, if you look at his tax returns he probably reports $10,000 income and gets a EIC bonus check from the IRS each year (ok , it is really YOUR money he is stealing)

 

[lozina]

well in this case you would be minding your own business if you report them because its YOUR money being sent to those rats

 

[AnyMal]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Queasy
Had the same thing happen with my next door neighbor. The couple wasn't married and the husband owned a restaurant and bought a Harley and a giant Nissan SUV close to one another. They were also looking for a $300k to $500k house. In the meantime, both their kids were on Georgia's Peach Care program and the mom used the state's healthcare program to pay for her pregnancy and childbirth.

I think I posted about it here actually.

They are indeed assholes, but I don't know if what they're doing is technically illegal. It's certainly abusing the program and public funds, but is it actually illegal?

Yes, it's called fraud

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: AnyMal

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Queasy
Had the same thing happen with my next door neighbor. The couple wasn't married and the husband owned a restaurant and bought a Harley and a giant Nissan SUV close to one another. They were also looking for a $300k to $500k house. In the meantime, both their kids were on Georgia's Peach Care program and the mom used the state's healthcare program to pay for her pregnancy and childbirth.

I think I posted about it here actually.

They are indeed assholes, but I don't know if what they're doing is technically illegal. It's certainly abusing the program and public funds, but is it actually illegal?

Yes, it's called fraud

Look, I'm not defending these leeches. But how is it fraud? Are they lying? If they're unmarried and file seperately, how is it illegal? Keep in mind that I don't really have any idea what I'm talking about, I'm just curious how they're breaking the law.

 

[James Bond]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: AnyMal

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Queasy
Had the same thing happen with my next door neighbor. The couple wasn't married and the husband owned a restaurant and bought a Harley and a giant Nissan SUV close to one another. They were also looking for a $300k to $500k house. In the meantime, both their kids were on Georgia's Peach Care program and the mom used the state's healthcare program to pay for her pregnancy and childbirth.

I think I posted about it here actually.

They are indeed assholes, but I don't know if what they're doing is technically illegal. It's certainly abusing the program and public funds, but is it actually illegal?

Yes, it's called fraud

Look, I'm not defending these leeches. But how is it fraud? Are they lying? If they're unmarried and file seperately, how is it illegal? Keep in mind that I don't really have any idea what I'm talking about, I'm just curious how they're breaking the law.

It is fraud because they report that they make less than they actually do.

 

[imported_Imp]

Fraud report line NOW. I work for a welfare thing, and there should be anonymous fraud reporting lines.

 

[imported_Imp]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: AnyMal
Yes, it's called fraud

Look, I'm not defending these leeches. But how is it fraud? Are they lying? If they're unmarried and file seperately, how is it illegal? Keep in mind that I don't really have any idea what I'm talking about, I'm just curious how they're breaking the law.

I'm not that up to speed on the entire process, but I'm pretty sure it involves household income. If you live with parents, or in this case a spouse, then their assets and income get lumped together so that they are disqualified. This person probably rented an apartment or holed up in a vacant place long enough for the welfare people to complete their checks, then moved back. Just think about why students living at home can't get welfare... not the same situation, but there rules in place.

 

[Safeway]

Report them, now! I don't want to pay for those pricks.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: Tizyler

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: AnyMal

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Queasy
Had the same thing happen with my next door neighbor. The couple wasn't married and the husband owned a restaurant and bought a Harley and a giant Nissan SUV close to one another. They were also looking for a $300k to $500k house. In the meantime, both their kids were on Georgia's Peach Care program and the mom used the state's healthcare program to pay for her pregnancy and childbirth.

I think I posted about it here actually.

They are indeed assholes, but I don't know if what they're doing is technically illegal. It's certainly abusing the program and public funds, but is it actually illegal?

Yes, it's called fraud

Look, I'm not defending these leeches. But how is it fraud? Are they lying? If they're unmarried and file seperately, how is it illegal? Keep in mind that I don't really have any idea what I'm talking about, I'm just curious how they're breaking the law.

It is fraud because they report that they make less than they actually do.

We have no idea what they're reporting. He may be reporting all his income, and if she doesn't work she can still report nothing and get all the govt. programs.

 

[James Bond]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Tizyler

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: AnyMal

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Queasy
Had the same thing happen with my next door neighbor. The couple wasn't married and the husband owned a restaurant and bought a Harley and a giant Nissan SUV close to one another. They were also looking for a $300k to $500k house. In the meantime, both their kids were on Georgia's Peach Care program and the mom used the state's healthcare program to pay for her pregnancy and childbirth.

I think I posted about it here actually.

They are indeed assholes, but I don't know if what they're doing is technically illegal. It's certainly abusing the program and public funds, but is it actually illegal?

Yes, it's called fraud

Look, I'm not defending these leeches. But how is it fraud? Are they lying? If they're unmarried and file seperately, how is it illegal? Keep in mind that I don't really have any idea what I'm talking about, I'm just curious how they're breaking the law.

It is fraud because they report that they make less than they actually do.

We have no idea what they're reporting. He may be reporting all his income, and if she doesn't work she can still report nothing and get all the govt. programs.

Aren't they required to report *together*, since they live together and have children together? I know that "marriage" is the key word here... but I think they may still be required to file together since they are a permanent couple.

 

[Ronstang]

Originally posted by: Coolone
I'd report in a heart beat

Wouldn't even take a heartbeat for me. I would have reported him and then posted about it to get flamed by the bleeding hearts.

 

[NuroMancer]

Report em, the gov can figure it out in the next decade maybe.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: Tizyler

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Tizyler

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: AnyMal

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Queasy
Had the same thing happen with my next door neighbor. The couple wasn't married and the husband owned a restaurant and bought a Harley and a giant Nissan SUV close to one another. They were also looking for a $300k to $500k house. In the meantime, both their kids were on Georgia's Peach Care program and the mom used the state's healthcare program to pay for her pregnancy and childbirth.

I think I posted about it here actually.

They are indeed assholes, but I don't know if what they're doing is technically illegal. It's certainly abusing the program and public funds, but is it actually illegal?

Yes, it's called fraud

Look, I'm not defending these leeches. But how is it fraud? Are they lying? If they're unmarried and file seperately, how is it illegal? Keep in mind that I don't really have any idea what I'm talking about, I'm just curious how they're breaking the law.

It is fraud because they report that they make less than they actually do.

We have no idea what they're reporting. He may be reporting all his income, and if she doesn't work she can still report nothing and get all the govt. programs.

Aren't they required to report *together*, since they live together and have children together? I know that "marriage" is the key word here... but I think they may still be required to file together since they are a permanent couple.

That would make sense, and if that is the law, then they are indeed breaking it.
Like I said, I don't really have a clue about this stuff.

 

[James Bond]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Tizyler

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Tizyler

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: AnyMal

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Queasy
Had the same thing happen with my next door neighbor. The couple wasn't married and the husband owned a restaurant and bought a Harley and a giant Nissan SUV close to one another. They were also looking for a $300k to $500k house. In the meantime, both their kids were on Georgia's Peach Care program and the mom used the state's healthcare program to pay for her pregnancy and childbirth.

I think I posted about it here actually.

They are indeed assholes, but I don't know if what they're doing is technically illegal. It's certainly abusing the program and public funds, but is it actually illegal?

Yes, it's called fraud

Look, I'm not defending these leeches. But how is it fraud? Are they lying? If they're unmarried and file seperately, how is it illegal? Keep in mind that I don't really have any idea what I'm talking about, I'm just curious how they're breaking the law.

It is fraud because they report that they make less than they actually do.

We have no idea what they're reporting. He may be reporting all his income, and if she doesn't work she can still report nothing and get all the govt. programs.

Aren't they required to report *together*, since they live together and have children together? I know that "marriage" is the key word here... but I think they may still be required to file together since they are a permanent couple.

That would make sense, and if that is the law, then they are indeed breaking it.
Like I said, I don't really have a clue about this stuff.

Me either

 

[krunchykrome]

Report them, and don't feel bad about it.

 

[GenHoth]

Report them, hell its a 1:100 chance the government does anything! But maybe just this once something good will come of an honest citizen

 

[buck]

On a serious note, where do you report people like this? Anyone have a link?

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: Tizyler

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Tizyler

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: AnyMal

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Queasy
Had the same thing happen with my next door neighbor. The couple wasn't married and the husband owned a restaurant and bought a Harley and a giant Nissan SUV close to one another. They were also looking for a $300k to $500k house. In the meantime, both their kids were on Georgia's Peach Care program and the mom used the state's healthcare program to pay for her pregnancy and childbirth.

I think I posted about it here actually.

They are indeed assholes, but I don't know if what they're doing is technically illegal. It's certainly abusing the program and public funds, but is it actually illegal?

Yes, it's called fraud

Look, I'm not defending these leeches. But how is it fraud? Are they lying? If they're unmarried and file seperately, how is it illegal? Keep in mind that I don't really have any idea what I'm talking about, I'm just curious how they're breaking the law.

It is fraud because they report that they make less than they actually do.

We have no idea what they're reporting. He may be reporting all his income, and if she doesn't work she can still report nothing and get all the govt. programs.

Aren't they required to report *together*, since they live together and have children together? I know that "marriage" is the key word here... but I think they may still be required to file together since they are a permanent couple.

They would only have to file together if they are married.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
They would only have to file together if they are married.

Well then we're back to square one. How are they breaking the law?
This thread needs more CPA and/or EagleKeeper.

 

[Uppsala9496]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
They would only have to file together if they are married.

Well then we're back to square one. How are they breaking the law?
This thread needs more CPA and/or EagleKeeper.

Even if they are married they don't have to file together. They can file separate.
They will have to list that they are married though.

(My wife and I filed separate a couple years ago because it saved us a bunch of money - long story)