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Need your help - would this be a dick move

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JJChicken

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Hey guys,

Work-related query here. I've been working in my current role for the last two years. My bosses are very nice and give me heaps of freedom to do whatever I want. Come whenever, leave whenever. I was even sick recently, and took 9 days of sick leave in the last three weeks (so a lot!).

Now, I've found this amazing opportunity internally which could really progress my career. I'd be a shoe-in to get it. The issue is that my team needs me for at least the next 6 months as we will be crazy busy. And it's not a role you can fill up quickly (a lot of firm-specific knowledge). And since they are so nice to me, esp. with my health issues recently, I'm not sure if it is a dick move if I ask for a transfer in the near future.

What I want to do is tell them that I'm happy to stay for the next 6 months, and if the team who is hiring is cool with that, then I'll transfer. Otherwise I won't put in a transfer request. I don't feel like my career is growing in my current role.

I'm just not sure if it is a dick move to bring it up after my recent health issues? My bosses are pretty influential in the company and I have to be very careful not to get on their wrong side.

Thanks
 
It's not your responsibility to worry about how you'll be replaced at your current job. Your employer will always do what's best for them, you have to do the same.

I wouldn't offer to wait. If they ask, you can weigh your options, but I really wouldn't offer it.
 
rcpratt said:
It's not your responsibility to worry about how you'll be replaced at your current job. Your employer will always do what's best for them, you have to do the same.

I wouldn't offer to wait. If they ask, you can weigh your options, but I really wouldn't offer it.
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My senior boss (who I don't work with at all, but he hired me), who is direct report into the head of a $250m annual profit business - to give you the size of his influence, said if I stay in the current role for 4 years then he's happy to recommend me to any division I wish to apply for.

4 years is far too long for me. I've already some really good work for them, and I'm underpaid in terms of the work I do. And also, the development opportunities that I was promised when I joined the team have not materialised, and no real effort has been made to give me those opportunities.

That said, I work in a very old school "relationship-driven" environment where if I put my boss offside, I can kiss good bye any chances of a future.

My biggest worry is that I do all this work for this team, and then my boss changes and my new boss would not give a shit about what I did in the past for the team, because nobody cares about the past in business - it's all about what value you can bring in the future. Right now I have some bargaining chips since they need me, so I'm thinking I should use them. But I don't want to put them offside at the same time. Other opportunities may arise in the future (just not as good as this one in my opinion).
 
I think you just answered your own question. You're current employer has not fulfilled on promises made and really honestly does not care about your past achievements.
At the end of the day, You have to take care of YOU.
 
Years ago I was at a job after a year and my boss (IT Director) sent me a job listing and asked if I would be interested. I thought he was sending me a hint so I asked him if I wasn't doing a good job. He said that with my capability I should be looking to advance my career. I ended up working for him later at two different other companies. He had two other "followers" so we had this core team that was together for 7 years at three different companies. A good boss would wish you the best when you advance.
 
rcpratt said:
It's not your responsibility to worry about how you'll be replaced at your current job. Your employer will always do what's best for them, you have to do the same.

I wouldn't offer to wait. If they ask, you can weigh your options, but I really wouldn't offer it.
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If your management team doesn't have a succession plan in place for a key team member, that fault is on them for being negligent and not you for taking an opportunity being offered *at the same company*. You'd honestly be doing both yourself and the company a disservice by staying in your current role for that reason.
 
If you have to ask if something is a dick move then apparently you think its a dick move. Do whatever you think you should do. In the end, its the only way you're getting to sleep at night.
 
Martingale said:
The issue is that my team needs me for at least the next 6 months as we will be crazy busy.
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I stopped here.

As long as you give them the appropriate amount of notice (2 weeks in the US for example), this is not your problem.

Think about how you would be treated if you were to be fired - would they be concerned over how you will survive / deal with life?

No.

There is no need for you to hold yourself back - especially in a relationship that is stacked against you (i.e. you would get fired and thrown off of the property within one day - if they decided they no longer need you).
 
Martingale said:
Thanks guys. I'll have a chat with them, but won't burn any bridges by demanding a move.
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You don't need to demand a move and it's not (or at least shouldn't be) burning your bridges to tell your boss you saw an internal job posting that looks like a good fit (for boht you and the company). Any boss worth a damn should be supporting your professional growth within the company and not trying to hold you back because it makes his life a bit easier.
 
On the heels of excusing you for 9 out of the last 15 days of work, it would be kind of a dick move. At best, poor timing.
 
Update - Had a chat to my bosses and they were more than supportive of any moves and appreciative that I spoke to them first.
 
Martingale said:
Hey guys,

Work-related query here. I've been working in my current role for the last two years. My bosses are very nice and give me heaps of freedom to do whatever I want. Come whenever, leave whenever. I was even sick recently, and took 9 days of sick leave in the last three weeks (so a lot!).

Now, I've found this amazing opportunity internally which could really progress my career. I'd be a shoe-in to get it. The issue is that my team needs me for at least the next 6 months as we will be crazy busy. And it's not a role you can fill up quickly (a lot of firm-specific knowledge). And since they are so nice to me, esp. with my health issues recently, I'm not sure if it is a dick move if I ask for a transfer in the near future.

What I want to do is tell them that I'm happy to stay for the next 6 months, and if the team who is hiring is cool with that, then I'll transfer. Otherwise I won't put in a transfer request. I don't feel like my career is growing in my current role.

I'm just not sure if it is a dick move to bring it up after my recent health issues? My bosses are pretty influential in the company and I have to be very careful not to get on their wrong side.

Thanks
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Boo, not quite the thread I was expecting!...I have no advise on your work issue, but really, only you can evaluate how your boss will respond.
Would the new dept boss ask your current boss about you before giving you the job?
 
Sounds like you handled it well. The recency of your sick leave and your feelings of guilt about it are interesting. Fear and guilt are not helpful emotions, a sense of reciprocity is however, and I think that's what you demonstrated.
 
ask and let your new/old managers work out the timing.

the last time I changed departments in my company, my old boss was like "we really need Loki8481 to stay here and finish Y and Z projects, plus a couple weeks to train a replacement"... new boss agreed, and everything was scheduled.
 
Martingale said:
Update - Had a chat to my bosses and they were more than supportive of any moves and appreciative that I spoke to them first.
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told ya.

if they are smart, they will want to come across as respectful employers, rather than slavers; it's an advantage to them, they are able to get better employees and nothing beats a willing workforce.
 
loki8481 said:
ask and let your new/old managers work out the timing.

the last time I changed departments in my company, my old boss was like "we really need Loki8481 to stay here and finish Y and Z projects, plus a couple weeks to train a replacement"... new boss agreed, and everything was scheduled.
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yes that was the plan, but looks like the new role is no longer needed lol. ah well, at least I am now open with my managers and just have to wait for something else to come along
 
DigDog said:
told ya.

if they are smart, they will want to come across as respectful employers, rather than slavers; it's an advantage to them, they are able to get better employees and nothing beats a willing workforce.
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Yes you were right 🙂 To quote their exact words, "as senior management in this company, it is our responsibility to ensure we don't lose staff from the company".
 
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