Need your advise, please ***EBAY SITUATION***

Nocturnal

Lifer
Jan 8, 2002
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ok, about a month ago i won a pretty expensive vestax pmc-06 mixer off ebay.com. the thing is, is that i wont the mixer chaep from someone with no feedback. this worried me. i e-mailed him after i won the auction and never got a response. i then got an e-mail saying i could give him a call and he listed two numbers, one dorm or home, and one cellular. i called both; no one answered either line. i e-mailed him back asking him if he would send first because he had no feedback. again, no reply for quite sometime. when i finally got a reply back i told him that i did not want to purchase it because he had taken so long and also that he had zero feedback. now cut to a few days ago. i received a non-paying bidder warning e-mail from ebay stating that i had a week to resolve the unpaid transaction with this member. i checked him out again, he now has one feedback. he won something for $5.00. i e-mailed him and asked him if he still wanted me to buy it. i never got a reply. i then went ahead and said i would buy it, and where do i send the paypal to. he then replied EXTREMELY QUICKLY. after that was said and done, he said, "I now have one feedback, I hope that this is proof that I am legit." I was thinking to my head, hmm, only after i tell him im gonna pay him right now he answers back? sounds a little too fishy for me. i then e-mailed him three days ago asking him if i could pay him next week for the mixer because i dont have the cash right this second to send to him. he has yet to get back to me about this. i dont want to get a npb and get suspended. but then again i dont want to send $200.00 and get shafted.

what do you think?
 

PsychoAndy

Lifer
Dec 31, 2000
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Originally posted by: Nocturnal
ok, about a month ago i won a pretty expensive vestax pmc-06 mixer off ebay.com. the thing is, is that i wont the mixer chaep from someone with no feedback. this worried me. i e-mailed him after i won the auction and never got a response. i then got an e-mail saying i could give him a call and he listed two numbers, one dorm or home, and one cellular. i called both; no one answered either line. i e-mailed him back asking him if he would send first because he had no feedback. again, no reply for quite sometime. when i finally got a reply back i told him that i did not want to purchase it because he had taken so long and also that he had zero feedback. now cut to a few days ago. i received a non-paying bidder warning e-mail from ebay stating that i had a week to resolve the unpaid transaction with this member. i checked him out again, he now has one feedback. he won something for $5.00. i e-mailed him and asked him if he still wanted me to buy it. i never got a reply. i then went ahead and said i would buy it, and where do i send the paypal to. he then replied EXTREMELY QUICKLY. after that was said and done, he said, "I now have one feedback, I hope that this is proof that I am legit." I was thinking to my head, hmm, only after i tell him im gonna pay him right now he answers back? sounds a little too fishy for me. i then e-mailed him three days ago asking him if i could pay him next week for the mixer because i dont have the cash right this second to send to him. he has yet to get back to me about this. i dont want to get a npb and get suspended. but then again i dont want to send $200.00 and get shafted.

what do you think?

I think you are an excellent canidate to use paragagraphs.

De jure: Bid legally binding, blah blah blah.
De facto: Ebay cant suspend you for one NP instance. The magic # is 3.

-PAB
 

Sluggo

Lifer
Jun 12, 2000
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Well, you knew going in that he had no feedback, yet elected to bid anyway...and you won. Sounds to me like you need to send him his money. He is kinda flaky, I will readily admit, but you didnt have to bid on his stuff.
 

AlienCraft

Lifer
Nov 23, 2002
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Forward all emails to Ebay and explain your difficulty. They may cancel the sale if the seller doesn't get real.
 

PsychoAndy

Lifer
Dec 31, 2000
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Originally posted by: AlienCraft
Forward all emails to Ebay and explain your difficulty. They may cancel the sale if the seller doesn't get real.

No, they wont really care cause they already got paid.

-PAB
 

vegetation

Diamond Member
Feb 21, 2001
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Nope, ebay wont even read your email. Once they see the rant in the first sentence, they'll fire off a canned email explaining that you agreed to pay for each auction you bid on and it's therefore all your fault, etc.

Originally posted by: AlienCraft
Forward all emails to Ebay and explain your difficulty. They may cancel the sale if the seller doesn't get real.

 

PsychoAndy

Lifer
Dec 31, 2000
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Originally posted by: Johnnie
Seller can send cinder blocks and still get paid.

My Fed-Ex driver always lets me take a look before I pay.

Interstate Commerce Comission violation. As a whole, COD packages tendered for delivery with any private carrier cant be opened until after delivery is completed.

U.S. Mail is subject to the "your mail is considered property of the U.S. Gov. until its delivered" concept or something similar, but at any rate, the policy is get paid first, then deliver.

-PAB
 

Nocturnal

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Jan 8, 2002
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well update, i just checked his feedback and he won an auction for a $200.00+ snowboard.

im wondering if i can trust him. hes asking for payment via US MONEY ORDER. which is extremely hard to fraud someone with.

well, i sent him a first e-mail stating that he could basically F himself and ill take the NPB. but theni checked his feedback and saw that he had paid for a $200.00 + item. so i e-mailed him again and told him to discard the previous e-mail and that ill pick it up asap.

what should i do?
 

isekii

Lifer
Mar 16, 2001
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Originally posted by: Nocturnal
well update, i just checked his feedback and he won an auction for a $200.00+ snowboard.

im wondering if i can trust him. hes asking for payment via US MONEY ORDER. which is extremely hard to fraud someone with.

well, i sent him a first e-mail stating that he could basically F himself and ill take the NPB. but theni checked his feedback and saw that he had paid for a $200.00 + item. so i e-mailed him again and told him to discard the previous e-mail and that ill pick it up asap.

what should i do?

just pay him..

you won the auction.. it's a contract from what I understand..
you made the bid... basically you signed a contract..
would you like it if you were selling an item with 0 feedback .. then some stranger bids on an item.. and refuses to pay ?

i'm sure if you were that person and on the forums... you would be typing it up here " EBAY Woes"~ :p

 

RossGr

Diamond Member
Jan 11, 2000
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I am sorry, The seller is not the only flakey one in this deal. You bid, you buy, He had zero feed when you bid, the standard transaction is: the buyer sends payment, the seller sends product. It is not a really good idea to buy an expensive item from a person with 0 feedback, but you did. Now you are the problem. Get his address and send him the money. Or eat the NPB.
 

rgwalt

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Apr 22, 2000
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Well, you can eat the NPB and not leave feedback. Watch your feedback though, to make sure he doesn't submit it at the last minute. A negative from you will hurt him more than him giving you a negative, assuming you have a decent rating.

Ryan
 

masterxfob

Diamond Member
May 20, 2001
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i wouldn't go through with the deal, the fella has no record of selling, only buying. if it were a small ticket item, i'd take the risk, but $200 is a fair sum.
 

AlienCraft

Lifer
Nov 23, 2002
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I guess my mileage may vary from yours. I had no problem communicating with Ebay re: flakey sellers. And getting them to cancel a sale when the seller was a flake.
Anyone who doesn't follow procedure for after the sale communication abrogates their end of the bargain, IMHO.
I understand the problem to be one of communication between the parties involved. If the Seller is not forthcoming with information, the buyer can hardly be blamed for not completeing the sale, and further might be justified in requiring some method of insurance against fraud, given the lack of co-operation on the part of the seller.
I think it sounds fishy... I would only do a C.O.D.
 

ReiAyanami

Diamond Member
Sep 24, 2002
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if he didn't respond or contact u in a timely manner [3 business days] then the deal is off, cuz its his responsibility to contact you, never pay for something expensive with payment methods that have no recourse.

he broke the contract first by not contacting u like he should have in the specified timeframe, if he negs u, neg him back. oh, and next time dont make the same mistake.
 

CantedValve

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Sep 8, 2002
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Originally posted by: Nocturnal
ok, about a month ago i won a pretty expensive vestax pmc-06 mixer off ebay.com. the thing is, is that i wont the mixer chaep from someone with no feedback. this worried me. i e-mailed him after i won the auction and never got a response. i then got an e-mail saying i could give him a call and he listed two numbers, one dorm or home, and one cellular. i called both; no one answered either line. i e-mailed him back asking him if he would send first because he had no feedback. again, no reply for quite sometime. when i finally got a reply back i told him that i did not want to purchase it because he had taken so long and also that he had zero feedback. now cut to a few days ago. i received a non-paying bidder warning e-mail from ebay stating that i had a week to resolve the unpaid transaction with this member. i checked him out again, he now has one feedback. he won something for $5.00. i e-mailed him and asked him if he still wanted me to buy it. i never got a reply. i then went ahead and said i would buy it, and where do i send the paypal to. he then replied EXTREMELY QUICKLY. after that was said and done, he said, "I now have one feedback, I hope that this is proof that I am legit." I was thinking to my head, hmm, only after i tell him im gonna pay him right now he answers back? sounds a little too fishy for me. i then e-mailed him three days ago asking him if i could pay him next week for the mixer because i dont have the cash right this second to send to him. he has yet to get back to me about this. i dont want to get a npb and get suspended. but then again i dont want to send $200.00 and get shafted.

what do you think?
I think he just didnt want to put up with your crap. I mean geez... no feedback is just as bad to you as negative feedback. Standard procedure is pay first, then get merchandise. There isnt a vendor out there that will do it the other way. You are dealing with ebay... nothing is for certain, and like others say, YOU saw his no feedback, YOU decided to bid anyway. If you don't pay, you are as crappy an ebay-er as you think he is.... if not more.

If you were buying from me, I would take you out and shoot you for not paying.

 

Sid59

Lifer
Sep 2, 2002
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Well not everyone with a 0 rating is out to shaft people. People gotta start somewhere.

I'm still fairly new to ebay and only have 3 good reviews and 0 bad. I just don't buy too often from ebay and im grateful the sellers i did buy from gave me the benefit of the doubt.

Hell, my last auction, it took the guy near 3 weeks to send it off and i thought i got shafted on the buy. I almost reported him but he replied and told me he went out of the country and then expressed it to me and i got it the next day.

i hope when i start selling stuff, people who buy off me give me the benefit of the doubt and look past the 0 starting rating,
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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OK what is whith people winning an auction and then not pay thinking they will get riped off?

IF YOU DONT WANT TO PAY DONT BID!

sheesh. you knew he had zero feedback. if you dont like that dont bid.

oh and breaking up the rant is a good idea. it is hard to read when you dont.