Need to pick up a new video card, normally I stick with ATI, but I plan to start playing with Linux, is NV better?

coolred

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Normally I stick with ATI, since they make great products at great prices, but obviously they and nVidia are heavily competing, so price likely isn't much of an issue any more, sinc ethey should be about the same price. I am not looking to go to high end. Was thinking of a Radeon 9800(probablly a Pro). But as I said, I will be experimenting with linux more and more and possibly eventually making it my main OS. I thought I had heard somewhere that NV's drivers were better suited to the linux environment. Is this true, any info ont he subject? What card would you recommend?
 

coolred

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What exactly is the reasoning on that? DO they just put more effort in thier development of Linux drivers, then ATI, or is it something else/or as well.
 

coolred

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Well now I just have to figure out the dang NV naming scheme. While I don't know the actual numbers on the ATI cards, I know which is faster. But NV's is a bit differant. the NV XT cards are slower then the standard card of the same model number, right? I know I need to read the reviews, and trust me I will, but what card is comparable in both price and performance to the 9800 series, likely a pro as I said. And also is there any certain model or manufacturer that would be better suited to a linux environment?
 

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Originally posted by: coolred
Well now I just have to figure out the dang NV naming scheme. While I don't know the actual numbers on the ATI cards, I know which is faster. But NV's is a bit differant. the NV XT cards are slower then the standard card of the same model number, right? I know I need to read the reviews, and trust me I will, but what card is comparable in both price and performance to the 9800 series, likely a pro as I said. And also is there any certain model or manufacturer that would be better suited to a linux environment?

In the price range of the 9800 series nvidia offers the 5900 series, with xt being the slowest and ultra being the fastest. The 5900s generally aren't quite as fast as their 9800 competition in a windows environment, but they are respectable cards and you will far better off with one in linux.
 

kylebisme

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lol! All he needs to know if he is willing to pay twice what he was considering, but I doubt that is the case. ;)
 

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I am not looking to go to high end. Was thinking of a Radeon 9800(probablly a Pro). But as I said, I will be experimenting with linux more and more and possibly eventually making it my main OS. I
If you are just starting to tinker with Linux, and are not sure where you are going with it, I'd hold off on getting any 3D capable card. I doubt you will be doing any gaming on it for some time (if ever). Why not just go with a basic card for awhile and see how it goes?
 

coolred

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Well I need a new card anyway, what would you consider a basic card? I'd rather not go out and buy a cheap card now only to upgrade to a better one later, thats a waste of money, but on the other hand paying for a better card now that may not get full use is also wasting money. I am not a hardcore PC gamer. I plan occasionally though. I just want something that will last me for quite a while. I don't go out an upgrade 6 times a year, as can be seen by the fact that my current card is an 8500DV. I would actually like to go as cheap as I can without limiting myself too much in the games, or requiring an upgrade in a year.

Let me know what you think of that info.
 

oldfart

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An occasional gamer with a Linux OS does not call for a high end 3D card. You know game support on Linux is VERY limited, right? Are you going to have a Windows PC for gaming as well as the Linux PC? Are you going to dual boot on one PC?
 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: oldfart
An occasional gamer with a Linux OS does not call for a high end 3D card. You know game support on Linux is VERY limited, right? Are you going to have a Windows PC for gaming as well as the Linux PC? Are you going to dual boot on one PC?

There are other reasons to have a high end 3D card supporting OpenGL besides gaming.

For Example: TEXT

This OP may not be interested in this, but other Linux users who see this thread, might be.
 

Marsumane

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I reccomend getting either a 5900 or a 6800 variant. These cards are all significant upgrades and nv's drivers in linux are WAY better than ati's.
 

oldfart

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Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Originally posted by: oldfart
An occasional gamer with a Linux OS does not call for a high end 3D card. You know game support on Linux is VERY limited, right? Are you going to have a Windows PC for gaming as well as the Linux PC? Are you going to dual boot on one PC?

There are other reasons to have a high end 3D card supporting OpenGL besides gaming.

For Example: TEXT

This OP may not be interested in this, but other Linux users who see this thread, might be.
That is cool, but I dont think the OP is doing anything that really requires a 3D card. Even CAD is mostly 2D depending on what you do.
If you are just doing 2D stuff to learn Linux, it really doesn't matter what you use. Drivers are fine for any 2d type stuff. Dont waste your $$ on a high end 3D card if you wont be using it. I used to run a Linux desktop, but now leave it to my server. My server doesn't even have a monitor mouse or keyboard. Just a power and Ethernet cable.
 

Lonyo

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nVidia is usually faster in OpenGL, you will have to use mostly OpenGL for Linux gaming (and iD based games, Linux versions of Unreal etc).

If you use WineX, it'll be slower than Windows, so you might as well use Windows if you decide for a dual boot system, but for Linux native games, nVidia will probably have the edge, because of OpenGL speed and driver support.

A 5900XT will be a nice budget option, and give good performance (it's basically a lower clocked 5900/Ultra/5950 (same core, IIRC, just different core speeds and memory speeds).
You can always overclock (a bit).
 

coolred

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Well I suppose I could always dual boot windows for gaming then, like i said, I am only a casual gamer. I do play with CAD apps more then most people, but as was said, thats mainly 2d stuff. I mainly just want something that will last me for a while. When longhorn come out and for whatever reason I decide I need it(hopefully that won't happen) then I want to be able to run all the cool aero stuff, even if I don't, I want to be able to in case I want to. Really my 8500 has served me well. I don't play too many FPS's, mainly RTS's, so maybe I would be better off going with a 9600 or NV equvalent. But thats why I came here to ask. So any other info or opinions would be great.