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Need to do clean Win7 install with pre-sp1 upgrade disc

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bgc99

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The upgrade disc I have is what you got when Win7 was first released, it was actually a preorder.

I've seen some reports of windows update problems occuring, but nothing really specific. I'd appreciate any tips anyone has to help me avoid problems doing this.

I should also mention that I did try to download the .iso from Microsoft, but when I entered my key for my 100% US English version, I was only offered the Korean version for download.

I do also have a copy of an OEM SP1 version, if anyone knows how I could use that with the key from the upgrade version to avoid having to use the original release?

Thanks,
BGC
 
I've got the original upgrade version which is going on an older XP machine. The OEM disc is for a yet to be built system.

I know how to do a clean install with the upgrade disc, but I wondered if there was some way to slipstream the SP1 part from the OEM disc with the upgrade disc. But, from what I read a while ago, I think you need a Win7 machine to do a slipstream of Win7, I don't think it will work with XP and I don't have access to a Win7 machine.

I've seen instructions for downloading SP1, and installing it outside of windows update, where it listed 3 or 4 updates that should be installed prior to the SP1 install. I just wonder if you can install those 3 or 4 to a clean pre-SP1 install that has had no other updates applied to it and then install SP1.

If I could get SP1 installed, then there is a page about updating the windows update agent for Win7 SP1 which I've heard would smooth the update process.

Thanks,
BGC
 
Yeah, so much trouble and time. Better just to install a spy infected windows 10 and call it a day, lol. I had to update one 7 machine the other day, it was a pain!
 
Best to have w7 SP1 iso for the installation if that isn't possible then have the stand alone sp1 ready to use once the initial installation has completed. As for 10 when it works right it's a great OS and I prefer it to all others I've used but when it misbehaves it's really no different than any other MS release. You'd think that it's subsystems would be more isolated by now to minimize troubled applications. MS really needs to further decompose it to further isolate processes to increase stability.
 
Ignore troll comments about Windows 10. It is faster, more reliable and more secure than Windows 7. If you're worried about your usage being tracked, why are you using a web browser on the internet? Or a phone? Or vote? Or exist, for that matter?

Basically, all the talk about MS "spying" on your is pure bullcrap, plain and simple. Foisted upon unsuspecting people by uneducated folks who don't bother doing the research or have poor comprehension.

If you think MS is bad, be sure to stop using Google. Or Apple products. Or an ISP.
 
Oubadah said:
What does Windows 10 have to do with the topic of this thread? NOTHING. How many times has the OP mentioned Windows 10? ZERO. Why do you people feel the need to pollute every thread with this crap?
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Because OP can likely use the key to clean install a fresh modern OS.
 
Oubadah said:
You said you had an OEM SP1 disk. Why would you want to take a vanilla disak and slipstream SP1 onto that when you already have the real deal? OEM disks aren't tied to one key. Just use the OEM SP1 disk disk you have.
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From what I understand, you can't install from OEM and then activate with the key from the Upgrade version. The OEM disc is for PC I'm about to build.

The PC I'm about to upgrade has an Asus mobo for which there are no Win 10 drivers, 8.1 were the last. Also, it belongs to parents and I want to keep user experience as close to XP as possible.

I may eventually use Win 10 on my new build, but not for a while. I also may need to rebuild the PC I'm upgrading in the not too distant future so I don't want to tie the OEM disc to that PC.

Thanks,
BGC
 
bgc99 said:
The PC I'm about to upgrade has an Asus mobo for which there are no Win 10 drivers, 8.1 were the last. Also, it belongs to parents and I want to keep user experience as close to XP as possible.
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Most anything that has drivers for 8.1 has drivers for 10. What model is this ASUS PC or mobo?

As for W7 upgrade, just create a bootable USB flash drive from that OEM w/SP1 DVD, using a utility such as Rufus. After the USB flash drive is prepared, locate the file named ei.cfg and delete it. Then run setup.exe from the USB flash drive. It will start setup and ask you to select upgrade, then prompt for restart. When upgrading from XP to 64-bit W7, it will always require a custom/clean full installation anyway.
 
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I built the machine. There are no Win10 drivers for the mobo on the Asus support site.

I think the machine is too old to boot from USB, but I'll have to investigate that when I can. But removing ei.cfg would just present the choice of different OEM versions, it still wouldn't allow you to use the retail key.

Thanks,
BGC
 
bgc99 said:
I built the machine. There are no Win10 drivers for the mobo on the Asus support site.
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Drivers don't come from ASUS, anyway (they come from the chip/device manufacturers).

I think the machine is too old to boot from USB, but I'll have to investigate that when I can. But removing ei.cfg would just present the choice of different OEM versions, it still wouldn't allow you to use the retail key.
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If it's newer than ~2006/2007 it will boot from USB. ei.cfg determines if the install media is preset to accept retail or OEM keys and to preselect the edition to be installed. Deleting it, or edit it to change "OEM" to "Retail", will allow you to use Retail or OEM key and permit you to select the edition you want to install (for which you have a key).
 
escrow4 said:
Because OP can likely use the key to clean install a fresh modern OS.
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+1

bgc99 said:
I built the machine. There are no Win10 drivers for the mobo on the Asus support site.

I think the machine is too old to boot from USB, but I'll have to investigate that when I can. But removing ei.cfg would just present the choice of different OEM versions, it still wouldn't allow you to use the retail key.

Thanks,
BGC
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You do not need Win10 drivers from Asus.

My main rig is using an Asus P6T7 with a X5680 @ 4.5 and am using the latest WIN10 fast ring build, 14291, just fine atm.

With a lot of peripherals, and a sound card and video ported to the main AVR and a couple in system hardware RAID cards.
 
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tcsenter said:
Drivers don't come from ASUS, anyway (they come from the chip/device manufacturers).

If it's newer than ~2006/2007 it will boot from USB. ei.cfg determines if the install media is preset to accept retail or OEM keys and to preselect the edition to be installed. Deleting it, or edit it to change "OEM" to "Retail", will allow you to use Retail or OEM key and permit you to select the edition you want to install (for which you have a key).
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We shall see I guess. I had already burned a DVD with the ei.cfg file modified from OEM to Retail. I was trying to figure other options because even if doing this will allow a Retail key, will it allow a Retail Upgrade key instead of a Retail Full veersion key?

I'm going to work on it in the next couple of days so one way or another I'll find out.

Thanks,
BGC
 
I'll give it a shot if my other thread doesn't pan out. The bad thing is that even if it all goes my way, it is still going to be a massive pain in the rear.

Thanks,
BGC
 
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