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Need to build a system to make DVD videos

Polishwonder74

Senior member
I'm looking to put together a system to shoot video, edit, and burn to DVD. What kind of hardware do you guys use for that? What software do you like? How big do videos typically get (during editing)? How much hard disk space should I have? To RAID or not to RAID? etc. etc.

Last article I saw about video editing systems was at Tom's like 2 years ago.

Please help a n00b out. Thanks in advance!

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What is your budget? Do you have an editor preference? How much video?

Check my rigs. Both were editors. BUT the dually is better suited for some NLEs and not others.

1) Camera - if you can afford a 3CCD camera, please get it. That is an argument in itself. Sony vs Canon vs JVC vs Panasonic at the low pro end ($2000 - $8000). Sony is better low light, Canon has great stuff and the new XL2 does 24p (important if you want to do 'film' on video), and Panasonics 24p cameras are the standard. JVC has the HD10, which is really the first consumer HDV camera. Sony just announced the HFX1 3CCD 1080i camera and I have lust in my heart.

2) Intel vs AMD - AMD is making inroads. Intel still has a slight lead for encoding. AMD may be faster doing other functions. What you get really depends on what the non-linear editor (NLE) suite you use recommends. I would ignore 64-bit compatibility for the moment as there are no major announcements for support of a 64-bit NLE. Also, if you get some funky Cine device, you may not be able to get a driver. If you decide you like Final Cut Pro, you are getting a Mac (period).

3) NLE is a preference thing for some. I use Pinnacle Liquid Edition. There is also Adobe Premier, Sony Vegas, Avid Xpress, and more. Each have their own strengths and weaknesses. The discussion of which is best can get like a AMD vs Intel / nVidia vs ATI discussion. Liquid 6.0 is going to be HDV 4:2:0 capable out of the box (the commercial version will have a 4:2:2 add-on). HDV will tax 3.6GHz Intel systems including the dual Xeon systems. Same deal for 250 Opterons.

4) HD space - How much video? DV is around 13GB/Hour. I have a 10-12 1 hr tape project. My 400GB volume is almost full with that and some other small projects. I use RAID0, but that is to make big volumes. I suppose it does add some speed, but it would probably be 10-15% at best. If you plan on doing lots of video, start big. Also, it is best to have OS on a physical volume, video on another volume, and potentially, rendering on a third volume. Depends on the software. A plan for 80GB, 250GB, and possibly another 100GB is not a bad idea. But it depends on what you want to do and with what.

5) 'Video' - Just as a side note, Pinnacle likes ATI. Pinnacle also uses the GPU via DirectX to render many of their newer effects. So, if you go with Liquid, or, to a lesser degree, Studio 9, a 9600XT, 9700, 9800, or X800 card will kick butt. Other NLEs do not so benefit. An AIW works, but Pinnacle is rather gun-shy about them. If you need AV capture, get a Canopus or Pinnacle Moviebox DV or the Liquid Pro series. If you don't go Pinnacle, get the Canopus. Matrox has their own, but I do not use it or no anyone who does. No reference point.

Get the Pioneer 108 (or the NEC 3500).

 
Oh, there really is not anything that does *everything* really well. Depends on your needs. Some of the consumer editors will take you from camera to DVD and that will suite your needs. I use an editor, a different encoder (dual pass)- TMPGEnc is winning, a different DVD menu designer - MediaChance DVDLab is winning, and an old copy of Ulead Cool Edit for titles. I also need a audio editor, but have not jumped there yet.

I did forget audio. If you are doing important audio or need wireless, you can spend a grand in a heartbeat just on hardware. Then you need Sonic Foundry, Steinberg software (Wave something), or one of the other audio editors with VST support just to fix audio.

Did I mention that this can get expensive really quick? 🙂 Some of the REAL pro cameras are 6 digits on the price tag. Fortunately, that is being pushed down by technology. BUT, the latest HDV tape deck was $20,000. Jeez.
 
Oh WOW!! You guys are great! Gimmie a little while to digest all that and look into your suggestions (I wanna do some reading). I'll post again as soon as I have some more intelligent questions.

Thanks!!
 
I just burned my first DVD this past weekend on my new build. I am using Adobe Premiere Pro. It is not an easy video-editing program to use, but I got through it and did a pretty good job. The burner I'm using is a Plexor PX-708a. BTW, I am using a P4 3.2 Northwood CPU, 2 gigs of RAM, and an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 256mb 256 bit video card and 2 WD 74gb raptors in RAID 0. My camera is a Sony DV camcorder that is a couple years old but still takes good enough video for me to dabble with.
 
My personal DVD studio with:

1. 2.8C @ 3.4Ghz with 1GB ram

2. canon minidv

3. pinnacle studio, nero 6 ultra

Typical movie is 1.5GB to 2.3GB. I had to raid0 two 120GB so plenty of space for me.
 
Let me be the first to say: Get a Mac. Dual G5's and Final Cut pro + student discount = easy movie making.
 
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