Need suggestions for new PC

Nekromantik187

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1. What YOUR PC will be used for. Video editing, Gaming, Live Streaming

2. What YOUR budget is. $1,800 more or less.

3. What country YOU will be buying YOUR parts from. USA

4. IF you're buying parts OUTSIDE the US... N/A

5. IF YOU have a brand preference. None, as long as they are reputable brands

6. If YOU intend on using any of YOUR current parts, and if so, what those parts are. N/A

7. IF YOU plan on overclocking or run the system at default speeds. Default speeds

8. What resolution, not monitor size, will you be using? 1080p

9. WHEN do you plan to build it? As soon as possible

X. Do you need to purchase any software to go with the system, such as Windows or Blu Ray playback software? Windows

Thanks in advance for any help :)
 

lehtv

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Welcome! :)

Just to clarify (this really should be part of the questionnaire IMO): does your budget include just the tower or also the monitor, keyboard and/or mouse etc?

Also - do you have a Microcenter near enough for a quick trip?
 

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Will you consider any 2nd hand parts?

How much experience you have on building a computer?

Video editing is the primary of the computer?

Do you expect to play game with all extreme setting? Or normal setting in 1080P with >30FPS is good enough.
 

Nekromantik187

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Welcome! :)

Just to clarify (this really should be part of the questionnaire IMO): does your budget include just the tower or also the monitor, keyboard and/or mouse etc?

Also - do you have a Microcenter near enough for a quick trip?

Hi! Thank you :) The budget is only including the tower and yes I believe there is one not TOO far from me, I'd be fine ordering stuff online too.

Will you consider any 2nd hand parts?

How much experience you have on building a computer?

Video editing is the primary of the computer?

Do you expect to play game with all extreme setting? Or normal setting in 1080P with >30FPS is good enough.

I'd like to buy new parts, I have a bit of experience on building a computer. Video Editing is not the primary of the computer, Live Streaming would be the first, Gaming then Video Editing (Not a lot) I'd like to be able to run games on extreme settings, but not needed, mostly live streaming through consoles.
 

mvbighead

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1800 can buy you a very, very good machine. I'd be inclined to think you could step the budget down some and invest in a nice second monitor, but that may just be me.

Here is something that would be an excellent starting point:
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3A0IU
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3A0IU/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3A0IU/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock H87 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($91.48 @ Newegg)
Memory: PNY XLR8 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($118.10 @ Amazon)
Storage: PNY XLR8 PRO 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($107.20 @ Amazon)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 290 4GB Black Edition Double Dissipation Video Card ($419.99 @ TigerDirect)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ TigerDirect)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (32/64-bit) ($122.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1302.70
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-28 09:02 EDT-0400)

You could certainly throw more money at it, but this would be a very good performer in all the needs you were looking at.
 

lehtv

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Re: mvbighead's build

CPU: I'd get an i7, considering the need for streaming and video editing. He can pick it up at MC: i7-4770K + Z87 Extreme4 $345. Compared to the above i5 from newegg, it's only a little bit more, and gets you extra threads, ability to overclock, along with a beefy board that has Intel LAN, ALC1150 sound and SLI compatibility.
Memory: :thumbsup:
Storage: :thumbsup:, but given the budget, 500gb would be nice. Seagate 600 480GB $220 @newegg
Video Card: :thumbsup:, although I'd consider NVIDIA for Shadowplay. Streaming video encoded by the video card is an excellent way to get the load off of your CPU. E.g. EVGA GTX 780 Dual FTW ACX $510 AR @newegg
Case: A bit cheap for a higher end build, though capable. How about Corsair 500R $80 AR AP (cooling) or Corsair 550D $80 AR AP (silence) @newegg
Power Supply: Also a bit cheap for a higher end build. Mediocre capacitors, 3 year warranty... How about Corsair TX650 $60 AR AP @newegg
Optical: :thumbsup:
Operating System: :thumbsup:
 
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CPU: I'd get an i7, considering the need for streaming and video editing. He can pick it up at MC: i7-4770K + Z87 Extreme4 $345. Compared to the above i5 from newegg, it's only a little bit more, and gets you extra threads, ability to overclock, along with a beefy board that has Intel LAN, ALC1150 sound and SLI compatibility.

Pretty much agree with the above. The H87 Pro4 is a nice board, it just seems a little "gimped" for such a high-end build. That goes for the 4670 too. Can't really argue with the price of that i7, $35 gives an extra 4 threads and a slight bump in frequency. Considering the budget, that's well worth it in my opinion.

@ mvbighead

Just for the record the H87 does not use the ALC1150, ASRock's specifications state the ALC892.
 

mvbighead

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Microcenter definitely adds in some extras add a very low price difference. I suppose my builds always go without them because I don't have one close by.

I will say, I am not a fan of throwing extra money around just because you can. IE - a 500GB SSD just seems overkill to me. 240GB is among the best value and gives plenty of storage space. That being said, if it's burning a hole in your pocket, spend it, but by no means is it necessary.
 

crashtech

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I think a 240GB SSD is plenty big for OS and apps, with a big 3TB spinner for data storage.

The OP expresses a preference for stock speeds, which for me immediately brings the Xeon E3-12xx V3 series to mind, more specifically the 1230 V3 or 1240 V3.
 

mvbighead

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I think a 240GB SSD is plenty big for OS and apps, with a big 3TB spinner for data storage.

The OP expresses a preference for stock speeds, which for me immediately brings the Xeon E3-12xx V3 series to mind, more specifically the 1230 V3 or 1240 V3.

I caught that bit as well, hence my recommendation. However, I will say that the cost difference is negligible for the microcenter bundle, and I would be hard pressed not to go that route myself for that kind of difference.
 

crashtech

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I caught that bit as well, hence my recommendation. However, I will say that the cost difference is negligible for the microcenter bundle, and I would be hard pressed not to go that route myself for that kind of difference.

That i7 combo is hard to beat, for sure. The E3-1240V3 is $249 at MC, but it has no accompanying bundle, nor do I find their selection of H87 boards particularly compelling. If they stocked the ASRock Fatal1ty H87 Performance for a good price, that would probably be my recommendation along with the Xeon.

 

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CPU: I'd get an i7, considering the need for streaming and video editing. He can pick it up at MC: i7-4770K + Z87 Extreme4 $345. Compared to the above i5 from newegg, it's only a little bit more, and gets you extra threads, ability to overclock, along with a beefy board that has Intel LAN, ALC1150 sound and SLI compatibility.

MC stocks the H87M Pro4, and the combo price w/ the 4770K is $300. The Z87 Extreme4 enjoys the same advantages as it does over the the full-ATX H87 Pro4, but I don't think the difference is worth $45.

The OP is not likely to upgrade to SLI and an Intel NIC is of marginal utility over the Realtek in an environment where you are limited by residential Internet connectivity. I could see the upgraded audio codec being useful if the OP is an audiophile, but in that case I think you'd be better off spending the $45 difference on dedicated sound equipment (sound card or DAC).
 

Nekromantik187

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Thanks for all the suggestions! :D I was looking at everything and I think I'd like to get a i7 4770k to help with the video and live streaming, a 240 ssd would be good enough, along with a 3tb hdd. The LG dvd/cd writer and Windows 8.1. A better case and power supply would be great, everything else looks good. The LG dvd/cd writer is great. Just don't know what to decide on... So many things! :/ A video card with shadowplay would be great too.
 

mvbighead

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I think I'd like to get a i7 4770k to help with the video and live streaming

Can someone please tell me what this means?

If we're referring to youtube/netflix/whatever here I don't see how an i7 is required or would even provide any benefit to performing streaming tasks. This can be done with Kabini processors which are a fraction of the cost of an i7. By and large, the biggest factor in live streaming is your bandwidth. If you have a shared 5 mbps connection, your streaming is going to be poor.

Just trying to understand how the talk of streaming keeps coming about with relation to the need for an i7.
 

VirtualLarry

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Can someone please tell me what this means?

If we're referring to youtube/netflix/whatever here I don't see how an i7 is required or would even provide any benefit to performing streaming tasks. This can be done with Kabini processors which are a fraction of the cost of an i7. By and large, the biggest factor in live streaming is your bandwidth. If you have a shared 5 mbps connection, your streaming is going to be poor.

Just trying to understand how the talk of streaming keeps coming about with relation to the need for an i7.

"Streaming" in this context probably means twitch.tv, which requires a fairly beefy PC for real-time encoding. (Or using NV's ShadowPlay feature in their 700-series cards, for streaming PC games. I don't think ShadowPlay applies for console streaming though.)
 

mvbighead

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"Streaming" in this context probably means twitch.tv, which requires a fairly beefy PC for real-time encoding. (Or using NV's ShadowPlay feature in their 700-series cards, for streaming PC games. I don't think ShadowPlay applies for console streaming though.)

That makes a bit more sense. Sorry, I kept reading streaming as youtube and all I could think is how is that a serious reason for an i7.