need some starcraft broodwars tips

[TranceNation]

i'm always getting killed on battlenet, anybody got any good tips for beginners? i've been playing protoss lately thx

 

[CrackRabbit]

easy dont go on battlenet, Bnet is the reason i quit playing starcraft, too many cheaters and rushers, got to be where it wasnt any fun anymore...

good luck though

 

[acexg1]

If you're a beginner, play human vs computer games... start out 5v3c (that's 5 people versus 3 comps) and make sure to ally with your other human players. You can later move on to 4v4c or human games. Also, try to play maps with only one entrance to each base, and as protoss, as quickly as you can, fill that up with photon cannons. QUICKLY, so you won't be killed when they rush you. Then make some air defenses (e.g.: p. cannons on your coast), and I usually like to go all out with carriers. I also play terran, and with them you can do the terran lock. In this, you build supply depots blocking off your base's entrance completely, and then build bunkers, turrets, and later put siege tanks behind them. If you do this, make sure you get the extended range for marines and siege mode for siege tanks.
BTW, I play on B.net frequently, and there are some cheaters and backstabbers, but it can still be fun. If you're good enough, you can still stop backstabbers, although maybe not cheaters. gl.

EDIT: I would like to emphasize the need for speed in building your first base defenses and blocking your entrance... computers especially can be unbelievably fast in building units and rushing.

 

[Kadesh]

Okay first, forget everything ace just said. "I like to go all out with carriers" Yeah... that's a wonderful way to get yourself prepared for human opponents.

Now the real way to win is get a build order. Choose a race that fits your style, I'm sure you already have an idea about this. Now here's the tricky part, a build order is essential to your strategy but don't let it lock you in. You must scout at all times to know what exactly your opponent is up to. There is no sense in continuing a strategy if he can counter it easily.

Once the initial battles are fought, if you scouted right and your strategy was sound, you should be keeping him pretty bottled up in his base or you may have won already. If he's still hanging in there, it's time to expand. If your initial build order didn't include taking your natural (the first set of crystals outside your main base, it's called a natural b/c that's the natural place to expand), do that quick and go look for another spot. If the map wasn't filled, an empty base should be perfect.

Resist the urge to turtle (build -stationary- defense, never attack), this will kill you. Build lots of units (make sure you get some stuff to hit air, just in case) and go hunt his expansions and don't forget to check up on his main to see if he's gearing up for an attack, good recon is priceless. If he isn't expanding aggressively, try to contain him. Nothing huge, just a big enough force so that he'd have to work at breaking out, which would deplete his forces and give you early warning as to a possible attack.

While you're pestering him with your current force, those new expansions should be making you a very rich man. Use your income to build more factories and upgrade your attacks. Don't try to make a big army of a single unit. Spread out to include artillery type units (I prefer templar but reavers are good too) and air (avoid scouts btw). Make sure to use your recon to tailor your force to his base. If he has lots of bunkers tanks or whatever, bypass it with shuttles. You can clean out his stationary stuff later, destroy his infrastructure and you'll have won the war.

Fight some 3v3's, spectate some games, get some experience. You'll learn how to win but it will take time. Oh yeah, avoid BGH maps, it destroys the "expand or die" philosophy that is present in every other SC map. You'll pick up bad habits and your skills will only suffer from it.

 

[littleprince]

forgot the play computer idea...

hook up with some ppl who are gd... and as kadesh said, "specatate"...
the new replay feature is great... you can learn so much by watching others....
acutaly everything spectate said is gd...

i find the thing begineers do worst, is turtle in, build too much in differnt directions, and not exapand/attack enough...

if you want, i'll play with ya...
i still play a game every night
pm me if you want.

 

[acexg1]

"I like to go all out carriers" is whenever I'm bored. He's a newbie. Computers are good practice.

 

[FOBSIDE]

people dont play like computers tho. you have to play the real thing against humans. basically people that build really fast have just figured out a good build order. play around and ask for help during a game. ask what the guys building. if the persons nice and realizes youre a newbie he might be willing to help. but its not customary to tell your opponent what youre doing during the game so you might not get too much help.

 

[acexg1]

True, but playing comps are a good way to get a feel for the game, while not being as tough as humans.

 

[nirgis]

If you plan on playing humans later, training against computers is not the way to go imho. The computer is fast, but has horrible ai. It will almost never attack you by air or flank your base, prefering to attack straight on. You should, of course, look to avoid these head on conditions. Any way that is unguarded is better than a brute assault. It takes a lot of time/practice, but playing humans makes you (excuse the cliche) think outside the box and make unusual strategies. Other than that

-find units that you like and can use well

-units to use frequently: guardians, siege tanks, marines, zealots, hydralisks

-units to avoid: ultralisks, carriers

-never forget the basics: complex units need backup i.e. a siege tank cannot by itself conquer

-good pairs: siege tanks/marines or goliaths, guardians/mutalisks, marine/firebat,

 

[acexg1]

True again, but you still need a feel for the basics or you will be slaughtered by a human.

 

[TranceNation]

thx all, well yeah i sometimes play the humans vs comp games but mainly I play with just humans. Oh yeah I learned real quickly about building defenses fast, one of my first games on battlenet was real fast because the person who I was playing defeated me with only a couple of those zerlings i like to build dark templars. Oh my username is Saturn_Nights btw. Carriers take a long time to develop, I like to build scouts though.

 

[brinstar117]

If anyone wants to brush up on Broodwar just go on to the USEast realm and join me in chatroom PQ

TranceNation, Protoss is a good beginning race. They don't require much micro and they have a lot of general strats that are easy to pull off.

Nothing teaches you faster than experience! Playing the computer will only dull your skills, unless you play a UMS map called Endurance. Basically 2 humans versus 6 computers. The computers already start out with units/tech/base. You have to be conservative and use great strategy to manage resources... this ain't no lame BGH map.

Steer clear of BGH, Lost Temple, and "fastest" speed setting, and you'll do fine. PQ welcomes anyone that isn't in love with BGH. Hope to see some of you there!

 

[Chupa]

www.starcraft.org
just go through their guides, it helped me a LOT