Need some help with picking a case and Power Supply.

[imported_Xanadu]

Well im still in the choosing of what my computer is going to be of. I need your guys help to help me choose a Case and PSU. This is what I would like to have in my comp.
Also need help chooser a Processor fan unless going with liquid cooling.

MOBO- ATI RD600 (not out yet, any ideas on a date it may be out?)
GPU- ATI X1950XTX crossfire (not out yet, any ideas on a date it may be out?)
CPU- CORE 2 DUO E6600
HDD- 2 320 GB 7200 RPM 16 MB Cache 3.0 WD HDD.
Ram- not quite sure something DDR2 800 and above, maybe XMS,
I plan on also gettin a Tv Tuner, Sound card, and another X1950XTX eventually

Some PSU's ive looked into were the following.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817139002
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817104014
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817703005

I do not know if either supports crossfire therefore is another question, and then the PSU you recommend must support all of the above.

Now for the Case I have looked into cheaper liquid cooling systems and some normal cases with fans.

http://www.xoxide.com/thermaltake-armor-lcs-ve2000bws.html

http://www.xoxide.com/thermaltake-kandolf-lcs-vd4000bws.html

http://www.coolerguys.com/840556060352.html

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811112117

Or even if I could get away with this----

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811133132

Maybe this CPU cooling fan?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835118003

Please dont mind my noobieness

 

[imported_Xanadu]

No help/recomendations?

 

[Zepper]

Enhance 5140GH or 5150GH from eWiz via Froogle (save a bit that way)

Gigabyte Aurora - IDK where the best price is from a reliable reseller on those, start with Froogle. Or maybe the new CM Mystique 632 - IDK if it's at the online resellers yet.

Or perhaps the Maxtop Domino "server" casees - lots you can do with those bottom 5" bays. Or maybe the Chenbro $80. server case on eWiz.

.bh.

 

[Operandi]

You have some pretty nice choices there.

The Lian Li Vxxx series is one of the best there is; you do of course pay for it.

Those are also some very good PSU's, personally I would go with the Corsair or Forton.

The CNPS-9500AT would also be on my short list.

 

[imported_Xanadu]

Ok so if I were to go with the Corsair HX620w, would that support everything i have got listed, including crossfire? Would the Corsair HX620w fit fine in the Lian Li's?

 

[Zepper]

Oh, I missed the part about Crossfire - check the Ehnance ENS-0560G at eWiz via Froogle (save a bit that way).

.bh.

 

[imported_Xanadu]

Ok, would that fit well in a Lian Li 1000-1200 fine and it would run everything quite well correct?

 

[Operandi]

Originally posted by: Xanadu
Ok so if I were to go with the Corsair HX620w, would that support everything i have got listed, including crossfire? Would the Corsair HX620w fit fine in the Lian Li's?

The Corsair is built by Seasonic but I believe it's a quad rail design so you should have no problems getting the most out of its available power; Crossfire shouldn?t be problem.

The Lian Li will hold any PSU that is holds true to the ATX specification, which the Corsair dose.

 

[Zepper]

Yes, the Enhance 600 Watt unit will power any system I know (that will fit in a mid-Tower case) of with lots of margin.

.bh.

 

[imported_Xanadu]

hmm, so if i were to go with a cheaper case and go with either psu u guys recommended, do you think that the tsunami would be an ok case, i love the looks and the price is not bad, if i have to i will go with a lian li but i kinda like the tsunami for the looks and price. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811133132

btw thanks to all that have replied, youve been a big help.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: Operandi

Originally posted by: Xanadu
Ok so if I were to go with the Corsair HX620w, would that support everything i have got listed, including crossfire? Would the Corsair HX620w fit fine in the Lian Li's?

The Corsair is built by Seasonic but I believe it's a quad rail design

It's actually got three rails, not four.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: Xanadu
Ok so if I were to go with the Corsair HX620w, would that support everything i have got listed, including crossfire? Would the Corsair HX620w fit fine in the Lian Li's?

The CMPSU-520HX (aka HX520W) will also do just fine. So will the Enhance ENS-0560G that Zepper mentioned. The HX520 is $120 at ZZF and the ENS-0560G is ~$100 at ewiz.com.

 

[Riddlinkidstoner]

Some brands to avoid (taken from Xoxideforums.com very own PSU guide)
- Logisys
- Radimax
- Kingwin
- Deer
- PowMax
- Sunbeam
- Aspire / Apevia
- Nexxus
- Ultra
- Hipro
- RoseWill
- A-Top
- Apex
- In-Win
- StarTech

Recommended brands:
- MGE XG
- PC Power and Cooling
- Hiper
- EnerMax
- Antec
- Fortron/Sparkle
- OCZ
- Mushkin
- SeaSonic
- SilverStone

Btw, never ever ever use a PSU that came with the case. Thats just asking for trouble. A good rule of thumb is to invest 10% of the money you intend to spend on your computer on your PSU, if you can't afford that, you can't afford your computer. Everything is connected to the power supply, if that goes, most likely the hundreds (or thousands) of dollars you spent just go down the drain.

 

[Operandi]

Originally posted by: Xanadu
hmm, so if i were to go with a cheaper case and go with either psu u guys recommended, do you think that the tsunami would be an ok case, i love the looks and the price is not bad, if i have to i will go with a lian li but i kinda like the tsunami for the looks and price. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811133132

btw thanks to all that have replied, youve been a big help.

There is a reason the Tsunami is cheaper then the Lian Li; its built with cheap materials. The Lian Li's are expensive but built extremely well, so you definitely get what you pay for.

 

[Riddlinkidstoner]

I say you go cheap out on the components rather than the quality construction of a case...but thats just me. Like honestly, you don't need a X1950XTX. I say just get a X1900XT or even just a X1800 and wait awhile. Unless your planning to game on a 30" monitor that is...

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: Riddlinkidstoner
Some brands to avoid (taken from Xoxideforums.com very own PSU guide)
- Logisys
- Radimax
- Kingwin
- Deer
- PowMax
- Sunbeam
- Aspire / Apevia
- Nexxus
- Ultra
- Hipro
- RoseWill
- A-Top
- Apex
- In-Win
- StarTech

Recommended brands:
- MGE XG
- PC Power and Cooling
- Hiper
- EnerMax
- Antec
- Fortron/Sparkle
- OCZ
- Mushkin
- SeaSonic
- SilverStone

Btw, never ever ever use a PSU that came with the case.

Interestingly enough, Antec bundles their PSUs with a lot of their cases, yet you list them as a recommended brand.

Some Ultras, like their X-Finity line are decent, while only the NeoHE and TP-3 lines from Antec are worth considering. Mushkin's PSUs aren't very good, either.

 

[drifter106]

I second the opinion on not skimping on the quality of the PSU...don't skimp. If you can purchase components such as you have suggested ,spending another $50 to $100 on a quality power supply would be a wise choice.
For my 2 computers I have a PC&P running my winnie 3500 and a OCZ 520 running the opteron 175. Have never regretted either purchase.

Good luck!!

 

[Riddlinkidstoner]

I generalized when I recommended brands. Do a lot of research on the paticular model of the psu you select because even with a recommended brands can come really bad PSUs (For example, one that comes with a case )

 

[Zepper]

The Tsunami is basically an Antec SLK3000-B made of aluminum. So it is a good basic design. Unfortunately the aluminum should be thicker as it feels kind of flimsy and may enhance certain types or frequencies of noise. I'd go to a store that has one (perhaps a CompUSA or a Fry's) to see if its construction quality is acceptable to you. Wouldn't want you to buy one off the web and not be happy with it. One similar sized Tt case I can recommend is the SViking. It is basically the same case I have here (YeongYang/Rosewill 560x) dolled up for Tt. See my review of the 5604 here: http://www.techimo.com/reviews/ . Generally solid and a good basic design.
. In the same vein, you might want to consider the CoolerMaster Mystique - the new 632 model looks tasty to me. The 631 isn't bad either. All they lack that the Tsunamis have is a bit of HDD isolation - the Tts have rubber bushings while the Mystiques have plastic rails. Same caveat applies though - try to get a hands on for construction quality before ordering.

.bh.

 

[acegazda]

For a case in the mid range price catagory, I would consider the gigabyte aurora and the cm mistique as zepper said and also the lian li pc7b+2. It is currently $90 shipped from newegg I believe and is all aluminum, dual 120mm fans, the like. If you are water cooling though the aurora might be best. If anyone knows the predicted power consumtion of the x1950xtx, could they please enlighten me, if it's anywhere near the power need of the x1900xtx, the 520w corsiar won't be sufficaint. If you do opt for the fortron epsilon series, consider the ocz gamextream. They are the exact same thing, rebadged and often are lower priced with better warrentees.
Just a quick note on the HDDs, you may want to consider the seagate 7200.10 drives instead of similar WD drives as the performance (on paper at least... I have yet to find real life tests) is greater. A thermalright ultra 120 is a good cpu cooler, as well as the scythe ninja and mine. The ultra is like $45 shipped, the mine is like $43 shipped and the ninja is like $40 shipped. Or something like that... Are you looking to build your own water cooling setup or buy a prebuilt kit.

 

[Zepper]

The Fortron Epsilon series have out of spec ripple numbers (see jonnyguru.com's scope traces on the 600 - the same on two different samples). Until such time as this is fixed, they (and the OCZ rebadges) are NOT recommended.

.bh.

 

[dBTelos]

Originally posted by: Riddlinkidstoner
Some brands to avoid (taken from Xoxideforums.com very own PSU guide)
- Logisys
- Radimax
- Kingwin
- Deer
- PowMax
- Sunbeam
- Aspire / Apevia
- Nexxus
- Ultra
- Hipro
- RoseWill
- A-Top
- Apex
- In-Win
- StarTech

Recommended brands:
- MGE XG
- PC Power and Cooling
- Hiper
- EnerMax
- Antec
- Fortron/Sparkle
- OCZ
- Mushkin
- SeaSonic
- SilverStone

The Ultra X2 and X-Finity's are better then any Hiper supplies.

 

[imported_Xanadu]

Wow thanks for all of the replies and to all I will pay for quality and I am looking for a good psu that will last and be stable, and for the case I will also pay the money for a Lian Li I was just seeing what I should get for a PSU and a case. I would though like to keep the case price under $300 and the psu under $200, I never planned on skimping out on either, was jw if the tsunami would do and now am leaning towards the Lian Li, would the 1000 do alright or should i go 1200? Is there a nice Lian Li you guys could recommend me that has a window?

I will not get a case with a psu in it. And as for my monitor size I was leaning towards a 24" Dell UltraSharp 2407WFP

acegazda- So you would recommend me to go with these? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822148140

I think i may get 2 at that price right away, you agree?

How would i set both up? RAID 0?

 

[acegazda]

Yes... raid 0 is the one that effectively increases drive space. Raid 1 is mirroring, so there is no space increase, but all files are backed up.

 

[imported_Xanadu]

acegazda- Thanks a lot, is that a price i should hop on tom?