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need some help with failed dot coms

iamwiz82

Lifer
Jan 10, 2001
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alright, i need some advice here. What were the economic reason that the dot com businesses failed so badly? I figure it was because interneet advertisements did not generate enough revenue. Any other reasons?
 

StageLeft

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Sep 29, 2000
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Its because most of them had a poor business plan.

Stock prices for these companies were based upon company revenue - instead of profit. Revenue for some of these .coms, like amazon, are super high but because of operating expenses they can't even break even (a couple can only just break even and even fewer can make a profit).

These companies were building brand names and setting up their business but they never actually made a profit and after a while investors got sick of throwing money at a business with little chance of ever making a profit.
 

kassy

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Sep 13, 2000
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It didnt help that people thought that they could sell ice to Eskimos just because it was on the 'internet'.
 

Phil21

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business plans that sucked ass? Heh. Scam artists? Lazy asses?

Need I go further? 9 out of every 10 dot coms had no product, or source of revenue. All they did was market and throw big parties for no reason to blow through the millions of VC.

Ad revenue probably has very little to do with the present state of things, perhaps helped accelerate it by a couple months.

-Phil
 

Cosmo

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Nov 23, 1999
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They had limited understanding of how the markets work. Some of the b2c companies were betting on very rapid change in consumer behaviour which did not happen.

A business model based on advertising revenues could be ok in a more mature business, think of something like directory services or radio. In a newly established business you have to give big discounts to advertisers for a long period which erodes you revenues. I don't know exactly from the dotcom business but a newly established newspaper gives up to 90% discount dropping down to maybe 20-30 percent during a three year period. Also the dotcom industry since it's so young is the first to go when times get a bit rough and companies cut back on adspend.

A lot of b2c companies had no clear understanding of the difference between being a low price and low cost leader. We did see a lot of great deals on whatnot in the b2c industry. However it's not sustainable to compete by being a low price alternative if you are not low cost leader because you get negative margins. Most of these companies had to high costs because of limited competence in distribution and inventory management.

I don't know if you ask specifically about e retailers only but for many of the internet consulting firms the problem was that these companies should not be listed at all but rather partnership owned. You don't see big lawyer firms getting listed or management consultants. The reason is that the employees represent all of the companies assets and this makes for conflicts between them and shareholders.

hmm that's some of it... post any questions:)
 

Russ

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Oct 9, 1999
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<< Stock prices for these companies were based upon company revenue - instead of profit. >>



In most cases, it was just the promise of revenue.

We had a combination of technical wizards who knew zilch about business, and venture capitalists who knew zilch about technology.

Russ, NCNE
 

Czar

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Oct 9, 1999
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Mostly because the market got to crowded with dot coms. Many of them had great ideas and everything should worked, but there were to many of them.
 

iamwiz82

Lifer
Jan 10, 2001
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yes, the watering down of products wasnt very good. My idea is that there was an over supply of products, and prices had to drop, generating less profit.

so artificial worth, inner conflict, and over abundance seem to be the biggest 3 reasons.
 

Cosmo

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Nov 23, 1999
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have you done a porter five forces analysis? that usually gives your problem some structure and makes it easier going forward. if you don't know what the h3ll I'm talking about just ignore it.
 

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