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Need some advice: Serious Thread!

I was at a party with the family today, went with my friends, walked around, played basketball, some fireworks, and watched TV, the usual stuff. All the little kids went about their business playing hide and seek, acting like idiots, etc. I had a good time, slowly one family by one leaves until we leave too. We get home, I go up to my room, start playing a quick game or two of UT 2K3 before I sleep. I then go outside my room to use the restroom, and my mom asks me to come downstairs after I go. So I do, and my brother was sad talking to my dad about how a kid his age is being mean to him. Not mean as in beating him up, but doing things over and over to him to the point where he can't ignore them anymore. He calls him a nerd, geek, etc. plenty of times. The thing that got him though, was that when they were playing hide and seek and other games, they told him to count to a certain number, and he said "Why not 20?" or something less than what they said.

Then, the kid would say that he's scared of the dark and crap, which I noticed my brother ask "Who turned off the lights?" when someone turned them off in the basement, obviously not because he's scared of the dark though. Big Part: The kid then took him infront of a statue of a god (We're hindu btw, incase it matters) and told my brother to say that he's not scared of the dark or some stuff. My brother believes in god and the belief has mentally helped him in terms of "support," if you'd like to put it that way. That was the killer. That kid's older brother and I are friends, so I may talk to him if it gets out of hand.

Also, with my dad, my brother, my mother, and I, we decided tomorrow my brother would call him up and tell him on the phone that he doesn't like the way he is treated and would like him to stop. Do you guys have any tips what to do or some way my brother should talk on the phone?

I'd appreciate serious responses only, I really want to help my brother. If you say he should just toughen up, I agree, but that won't happen overnight, if you ask why he doesn't just ignore it, its kind of gotten out of hand taking him infront of a statue of god. If this phone call doesn't work, I'm going to talk to my friend (his brother) and possibly that kid too. Our families have good relations too so its not like we hate each other.

Sorry, not sparknotes or cliffnotes, this is a serious matter for my brother and us.
 
Honestly, that's just how some people are. You have to get used to dealing with idiots and @ssholes in this world; it's part of life. When you say that it's not likely you can change your brother overnight, likewise your friend's brother will not change overnight (but hopefully by the time he grows up he matures). I doubt there's a whole lot you can do. I suppose if you threaten/scare your friend's brother enough, he'll stay away (though that's probably not the best solution).
 
the kid sounds like a jackass... this kid is a kid, and isnt going to change just b/c your brother is being reasonable. kids cant understand, reason/morals etc. i think your brother should just stay away from the kid
 
If he is upset with what they say, he needs to tell them. If they continue to act that way, he needs to not hang around them. Either way, he shouldn't let what other people do to him upset him. In this world, there are people who like you, and people who don't. Surround yourself with the people who do. Ignore the people who don't. I know it may sound hard, especially him being younger, but I remember those times all to well, and that is the best course of action.
 
Thanks for the advice guys, the only thing is, at these types of parties the younger kids are in one group together, so its not like he can go with some other group or anything.
 
Originally posted by: dtyn
If he is upset with what they say, he needs to tell them.

Thanks, thats what we plan to have him do. We are going to have my brother call him up and tell him that he doesn't like what he does, the way he treats him, and so on, and ask him to stop because he would like to be friends, and if they can't be friends, atleast not be enemies.

 
Also, with my dad, my brother, my mother, and I, we decided tomorrow my brother would call him up and tell him on the phone that he doesn't like the way he is treated and would like him to stop
bad idea. You'll scare your brother more than anything else. If you think the other kid needs to be talked to, have your parents talk to his parents.
 
Originally posted by: XZeroII
Also, with my dad, my brother, my mother, and I, we decided tomorrow my brother would call him up and tell him on the phone that he doesn't like the way he is treated and would like him to stop
bad idea. You'll scare your brother more than anything else. If you think the other kid needs to be talked to, have your parents talk to his parents.

Why parents? We decided not to do parental talks because then the kid would say crap like "tattle-tale" and junk only bothering him more. Why would it scare him? It'll help him be a little more assertive too.
 
Originally posted by: AgaBooga
Originally posted by: XZeroII
Also, with my dad, my brother, my mother, and I, we decided tomorrow my brother would call him up and tell him on the phone that he doesn't like the way he is treated and would like him to stop
bad idea. You'll scare your brother more than anything else. If you think the other kid needs to be talked to, have your parents talk to his parents.

Why parents? We decided not to do parental talks because then the kid would say crap like "tattle-tale" and junk only bothering him more. Why would it scare him? It'll help him be a little more assertive too.

This other kid is obviously either bigger, older, or just more intimidating than your brother. Imagine if you were in a bar and some big guy was messing with you. How would you feel about telling that he hurt your feelings? It probably wouldn't do much good. Next time your brother saw this kid, this other kid would probably bring it up again in front of his friends that he hurt him (your brother) and that he cried to his mommy and stuff. Of course this could happen if the parents have a talk, but his parents might discipline him stronger and make him learn his lesson better. This is just my oppinion. Something to think about.
 
Originally posted by: XZeroII
Originally posted by: AgaBooga
Originally posted by: XZeroII
Also, with my dad, my brother, my mother, and I, we decided tomorrow my brother would call him up and tell him on the phone that he doesn't like the way he is treated and would like him to stop
bad idea. You'll scare your brother more than anything else. If you think the other kid needs to be talked to, have your parents talk to his parents.

Why parents? We decided not to do parental talks because then the kid would say crap like "tattle-tale" and junk only bothering him more. Why would it scare him? It'll help him be a little more assertive too.

This other kid is obviously either bigger, older, or just more intimidating than your brother. Imagine if you were in a bar and some big guy was messing with you. How would you feel about telling that he hurt your feelings? It probably wouldn't do much good. Next time your brother saw this kid, this other kid would probably bring it up again in front of his friends that he hurt him (your brother) and that he cried to his mommy and stuff. Of course this could happen if the parents have a talk, but his parents might discipline him stronger and make him learn his lesson better. This is just my oppinion. Something to think about.

Alright, I can see your point. I'll mention it to my parents. Thanks. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: AgaBooga
Thanks for the advice guys, the only thing is, at these types of parties the younger kids are in one group together, so its not like he can go with some other group or anything.

This sounds a bit like my situation in middle school. I went to a school with only 20 kids in a class, so you were either in or out, and I was out.

I don't know how much I can really help you, though, as I spent most of that time lonely and bitter. The upside was that I ended up in a high school where things got much better, and now I'm happy again. Are there any other communities he has access to where he can find more "geeks" like him?
 
Originally posted by: ClueLis
Originally posted by: AgaBooga
Thanks for the advice guys, the only thing is, at these types of parties the younger kids are in one group together, so its not like he can go with some other group or anything.

This sounds a bit like my situation in middle school. I went to a school with only 20 kids in a class, so you were either in or out, and I was out.

I don't know how much I can really help you, though, as I spent most of that time lonely and bitter. The upside was that I ended up in a high school where things got much better, and now I'm happy again. Are there any other communities he has access to where he can find more "geeks" like him?

He isn't really a "geek" in my opinion, compared to me and where I am socially, but this is only a problem when we go to parties and such, otherwise he's fine, he has plenty of friends too. I think we'll try the phone call thing first, if that doesn't work, then we'll just have he parental talks.
 
I agree with Xzeroii. Assuming your parents believe that the boy's parents are competent, then asking them to help correct the situation is the best option.
 
Originally posted by: PowerEngineer
I agree with Xzeroii. Assuming your parents believe that the boy's parents are competent, then asking them to help correct the situation is the best option.

Is there some reason to this?
 
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