Need reasons for voting for Kerry

maddogchen

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Can anyone give me some good reasons for voting for Kerry. Please don't say to kick Bush out, because "He ain't Bush" is not a good enough reason to qualify for President. And please don't say because he'll be better than Bush because you can't see into the future (But if you can please tell me next week's winning lotto numbers). So can anyone tell me good reasons why Kerry will be a good President?
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: maddogchen
Can anyone give me some good reasons for voting for Kerry. Please don't say to kick Bush out, because "He ain't Bush" is not a good enough reason to qualify for President. And please don't say because he'll be better than Bush because you can't see into the future (But if you can please tell me next week's winning lotto numbers). So can anyone tell me good reasons why Kerry will be a good President?
He looks like Andrew Jackson!
 

CADsortaGUY

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He would "internationalize" our country. That would take the responsibility off of our shoulders and we couldn't be the "bad" guy anymore.

Well, some people think that's a good idea anyway....atleast I tried;)

CkG
 

koryo

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Actually, "he ain't Bush" is a good enough reason for me.

Most of the presidents we've had haven't been all that great. Some have been really awful.

I have a tough time getting too excited about Kerry, though.

Originally posted by: maddogchen
Can anyone give me some good reasons for voting for Kerry. Please don't say to kick Bush out, because "He ain't Bush" is not a good enough reason to qualify for President. And please don't say because he'll be better than Bush because you can't see into the future (But if you can please tell me next week's winning lotto numbers). So can anyone tell me good reasons why Kerry will be a good President?

 

Leon

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Reasons?

Voted YES for Patriot Act
Voted NO for UN authorized Iraq War I
Voted YES for Iraq War II
Voted YES for No Child Left Behind
Voted YES for NAFTA
Claims he will fight special interests (with special interest money :))

And since liberals on this board are overwhelmingly support the things above (cough), he is definately Liberal Dream(tm) come true.

:)

 

BugsBunny1078

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Health care for all americans.
Isn't this good enough? Don't all americans deserve to be able to have their curable diseases cured and won;t this help keep them from spreading to the rest of us?
Remove corporate tax loopholes. I paid more taxes two years ago than Enron did and they made a billion dollars profit and I made alot less.
Because he is smart.
Because he has a conscience.
 

alchemize

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He is not fiscally conservative. He's basically said he'll spend more than Bush, and raise taxes to pay for it.
 
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Originally posted by: Leon
Reasons?

Voted YES for Patriot Act
Voted NO for UN authorized Iraq War I
Voted YES for Iraq War II
Voted YES for No Child Left Behind
Voted YES for NAFTA

And since liberals on this board are overwhelmingly support the things above (cough), he is definately Liberal Dream(tm) come true.

:)

Ouch :) Lest we not forget that he is going to take the special interests out of Washington and send them back to Massachusetts where they belong!
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: alchemize
He is not fiscally conservative. He's basically said he'll spend more than Bush, and raise taxes to pay for it.

Oops I misread. Here we go.

He is going to spend spend spend on all the important things! And raise taxes on the sinister "rich" to pay for it yay!

 

maddogchen

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
He would "internationalize" our country. That would take the responsibility off of our shoulders and we couldn't be the "bad" guy anymore.

Well, some people think that's a good idea anyway....atleast I tried;)

CkG

What does "internationalize" our country mean? Does that mean working with other countries to create a consensus even if it goes against our national interests? Does it mean following the majority's wishes even if it means letting all the many muslim countries beating up on the one jew(Israel)?

If it does take responsibility off of our shoulders, who are we giving it too? the UN? the EU? nobody in particular?

And how would we not be the "bad" guy anymore? Won't they hate us anyway? The British for thinking us too cocky, the French who think we don't have culture, the Russians because they lost, the Chinese because we stand in their way, the Mexicans because they're poor and we're not.
 

SViscusi

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Originally posted by: alchemize
He is not fiscally conservative. He's basically said he'll spend more than Bush, and raise taxes to pay for it.

Not with a republican congress he won't. Hell, half the spending proposals by Bush, if proposed by a Democrat, wouldn't have been close to passing.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: maddogchen
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
He would "internationalize" our country. That would take the responsibility off of our shoulders and we couldn't be the "bad" guy anymore.

Well, some people think that's a good idea anyway....atleast I tried;)

CkG

What does "internationalize" our country mean? Does that mean working with other countries to create a consensus even if it goes against our national interests? Does it mean following the majority's wishes even if it means letting all the many muslim countries beating up on the one jew(Israel)?

If it does take responsibility off of our shoulders, who are we giving it too? the UN? the EU? nobody in particular?

And how would we not be the "bad" guy anymore? Won't they hate us anyway? The British for thinking us too cocky, the French who think we don't have culture, the Russians because they lost, the Chinese because we stand in their way, the Mexicans because they're poor and we're not.

Good questions. No one seems to know what he means by "internationalize" or "internationalist". I suppose the press will get around to asking those questions sooner or later.....maybe.

CkG
 

maddogchen

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Haha you guys are great, I ask for some reasons for and instead I get a whole lot of reasons against.
 

BugsBunny1078

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I don't think his votes as a Massachussetts senator are important.
As a Massachussetts senator his job is to vote the way Massachussetts wants so that Massachussets is getting their share of representation. I think Massachussetts feels he did his job well so noone from another state really has any basis to say he didn't.
If he was doing a good job for Massachussetts I am sure when he is president of the entire U.S.A. that he will do his best to do an equally good job for all the U.S.A. not just Massachussetts.

 

alchemize

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I'm sorry we've all been missing the obvious, well thought out logical response for the reason that most are going to vote for Kerry:

"Anyone but Bush!"
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: alchemize
I'm sorry we've all been missing the obvious, well thought out logical response for the reason that most are going to vote for Kerry:

"Anyone but Bush!"
It seems to be catching on. Man you must really be pissing people off if they would prefer anybody over you.

 

koryo

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Not fiscally conservative?

Compared to who?

Originally posted by: alchemize
He is not fiscally conservative. He's basically said he'll spend more than Bush, and raise taxes to pay for it.

 

maddogchen

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Originally posted by: BugsBunny1078
Health care for all americans.
Isn't this good enough? Don't all americans deserve to be able to have their curable diseases cured and won;t this help keep them from spreading to the rest of us?
Remove corporate tax loopholes. I paid more taxes two years ago than Enron did and they made a billion dollars profit and I made alot less.
Because he is smart.
Because he has a conscience.

I like the health care for all americans reason. But didn't CLinton try this but fail miserably because of a Republican controlled Congress? How would Kerry succeed when he's faced with the same thing?

As for corporate taxholes, I thought that was there to encourage Capitalism. Don't the stock holders of Enron have to pay taxes on the dividends they receive from Enron's profits? Wouldn't taxing Enron's profits mean the shareholders gets taxed twice?
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: koryo
Not fiscally conservative?

Compared to who?

Originally posted by: alchemize
He is not fiscally conservative. He's basically said he'll spend more than Bush, and raise taxes to pay for it.

John Kerry has the courage to roll back Bush?s tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans so we can invest in education and healthcare
We will put forward a budget to restore fiscal sanity, eliminate corporate welfare, and cut the deficit in half in four years.

So, in Kerry's own words, he plans to increase taxes, and spend at the same rate (or greater). Cause Bush says he'll cut the deficit in half in four years also remember?

 
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Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
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