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Need people to tell me if this is good for me

None of them is really worth it, imo. There are much better deals to be found in prebuilts, if that is what you must have. I'd post a thread in General Hardware, if I was you. You will get lots of responses. I would think that for that kind of money you could at least find a Haswell i3 machine that could eventually be upgraded, but I don't see anything like that in the link provided.
 
Hello Bigsteve606,

If you don't want to build, get something like this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...9SIA24G1R20728

Scroll down to the Game Benchmarks section of this page too see how it will handle games:

http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-HD-8670D.96575.0.html

And here is the video card in the best buy link from your first post:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-610M.63759.0.html (hint: The AMD card blows it away)

Summary: spend a few dollars more and get a much better gaming computer from a trusted manufacturer (Gateway), or go over to General Hardware and get possibly a better machine for the money, and learn a few things in the process.

Update, here is an example of one I built a short time ago (post 1):
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2370238&highlight=

add one of these:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130838

and you would be right at $600 for a very fast PC.
 
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ketchup79 said:
Hello Bigsteve606,

If you don't want to build, get something like this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...9SIA24G1R20728

Scroll down to the Game Benchmarks section of this page too see how it will handle games:

http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-HD-8670D.96575.0.html

And here is the video card in the best buy link from your first post:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-610M.63759.0.html (hint: The AMD card blows it away)

Summary: spend a few dollars more and get a much better gaming computer from a trusted manufacturer (Gateway), or go over to General Hardware and get possibly a better machine for the money, and learn a few things in the process.

Update, here is an example of one I built a short time ago (post 1):
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2370238&highlight=

add one of these:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130838

and you would be right at $600 for a very fast PC.
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Got my Vote on this one:thumbsup:
 
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/mistersprinkles/saved/wj848d
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Build this yourself!!

It is NOT difficult to build a PC. At all. You'll end up with 2-3X the performance you would have gotten from the Gateway build a few posts back. You'll be able to play ANY GAME YOU WANT at 1080P at medium to high settings (usually high) smoothly. If you buy prebuilt you are compromising and won't get a good result.

The build above is powerful, can be overclocked for even more performance, and is really good value for money.


This forum, and www.overclockers.com (which I like better) can guide you through the setup process and installation process. All you need is a phillips head screwdriver. It's so easy.

Watch Carey Holzman's how-to videos on youtube. Just follow the steps with him and after 2 hours you'll have your computer built.

If you want the system to be even FASTER and handle games like Crysis 3, Metro Last Light, etc at high settings at 1080P with a good framerate, throw another $100 at it and get a GTX 760 2GB video card.

My above build is, in my opinion, superior to anything else that has been suggested in this thread so far.
 
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A carefully chosen prebuilt can be a viable alternative to building your own in the low/mid range, especially if one must buy windows. Best buy does not have such a system advertised this week, but they usually have a has well i3 system for less than 500.00. Add in a 140.00 GTX 750 Ti and you have a system comparable in performance to the one above for the same price or slightly less.
 
frozentundra123456 said:
A carefully chosen prebuilt can be a viable alternative to building your own in the low/mid range, especially if one must buy windows. Best buy does not have such a system advertised this week, but they usually have a has well i3 system for less than 500.00. Add in a 140.00 GTX 750 Ti and you have a system comparable in performance to the one above for the same price or slightly less.
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With an inferior motherboard, without the ability to overclock, with an inferior PSU... Probably WITHOUT the Windows installation disc (just a recovery partition). The caveats do not justify the means to buy prebuilt. Prebuilt is for suckers.
 
Between multiple work computers, family and friends, and my own experience, I have had exposure to many pre-builts, and never had a motherboard fail. You do lose the ability to overclock, but the PSU can be upgraded easily as well. The GTX 750Ti makes upgrading a prebuilt much more of a viable option for a midrange system. Obviously if you want a powerful top end system, it is better to build it yourself.

However, I dont think it is fair to put down someone who does not feel comfortable with building a complete system, or discourage them from getting a decent prebuilt and adding a gpu. Building a computer may seem easy to you, but it if one has never done it and has no one to turn to for advice, it can be intimidating.
 
Thanks everyone but iv posted this kind of stuff before and people just seem to tell me I should just build one for cheaper and better and I like that but my mind is focused on this PC I posted so please just answer the questions if you know.
 
To be blunt then, the particular PC you linked is not a good choice for gaming. A very weak video card and a poor cpu as well for gaming. Either the build posted by sprinkles or an OEM purchase and upgrade as I suggested would be a much better choice, since you will have to replace the video card anyway on the PC you linked, pushing the cost to over 600.00, and you will still have a weak cpu for gaming.
 
frozentundra123456 said:
Between multiple work computers, family and friends, and my own experience, I have had exposure to many pre-builts, and never had a motherboard fail.
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I've had the opposite experience. I've worked on like 3-4 AM2/AM2+ AMD OEM machines that had failed PSUs and mobos. I don't know what it is, but it's like they went ultra-cheapo on components in AMD rigs during that era. I also know of someone with an HP OEM P4 rig that's still running great (with a couple of HDD replacements in the meantime).
 
VirtualLarry said:
I've had the opposite experience. I've worked on like 3-4 AM2/AM2+ AMD OEM machines that had failed PSUs and mobos. I don't know what it is, but it's like they went ultra-cheapo on components in AMD rigs during that era. I also know of someone with an HP OEM P4 rig that's still running great (with a couple of HDD replacements in the meantime).
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Interesting. All my systems have been Intel except for one. I have never had a psu or motherboard failure, but I seem to have back luck with hard disks. I have had several of those fail.
 
Intel® Pentium® processor G3220
Features 2 processing cores, a 3MB L3 cache and 3.0GHz processor speed.

Or
AMD Quad-Core FX-4100 Zambezi Processor

What's better
 
Agreed. That Dell has a much faster CPU than any of the other options, and the integrated HD4600 graphics on that CPU are also significantly better than the GT 610 and the R7 240 that you mentioned.

Plus you get the three year on site warranty if something happens to break.
 
Is the HD 4600 really better than an R7 240? For sure it is better than the GT610. In any case, the HD 4600 is probably good enough for the older games the op is interested in, and adding a GT750 or 750Ti later would make for a nice low/mid range gaming machine.

I am actually amazed at an Optiplex i5 for that price. Wonder what their PSU is like? I have an XPS with a 460 watt, is that in the optiplex as well?
 
The few reviews I found with direct comparisons say that it is better than the R7 240, just not by as big of a margin as it has over the GT 610.
 
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