Need low cost motherboard with video that supports ultra cheap CPU

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I am looking for a highly integrated solution.... dirt cheap. Quality of video and Speed of 3d is completely irrelevant.

I need to throw together a machine very quickly with the cheapest good highly integrated mobo I can possibly find.
 

navir

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the only motherboard i know of with integrated video and is cheap are the i810 and i815 motherboards from intel.you can pair them witha celeron or pentium III.For AMD as far as i know only the nForce supprots onbaord video but is expensive
 

o1die

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I would get a mobo with the sis 730 chipset for onboard video and sound. Some may also have lan or modem. In pricewatch, select "motherboard combos" and the duron or athlon speed you desire, and scan through the selections.
 

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do yo have any part to make the whole?? i.e. you already have a processor? ...anyway..there are KM series boards out there I put a Chaintech KM133(7AIV-100 specs found here got it NIB from uBid for $46 shipped back in July2001) together for my parents w/ a 750Duron($27 when Compgeeks had a surplus of them ) an $8 CoolerMaster that came with my retail boxed 800 Athlon ,the onboard Savage4 16MB ...the mobo adjusts the memory used..also has a separate AGP slot...video from system memory( memory hit not noticeable with 256MB stick of pc133 PNY ...from Staples was $36 after a $20MIR...in it with the websurfing/emailing/word processing/etc. they do ),52xCDRom($26..local wholesaler also where I got the FDD for $12 and the case) ,30GB Maxtor 5400 rpm(not sure on it think it was $89 or $99 but I got a $30 MIR back on it from CompUSA..lol ) and my old Acer 8x4x32(two yrs ago from uBid for $60 was NIB retail ) in a generic locally procured 300w case($35 taxed) ......$370 not inclusive of rebates ...that offset software/OS(Win98SE plus! for $30...rebate money knock) <edit> spelling
 

WhiteWizard

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I put two BIOSTAR M7VKL or S, don't remember the last letter, but its not the "B" (I have one of those, but don't include video).
Its very cheap and very stable also, only problem is inserting the RAM PC133, a lot of force its needed, in the last one I put the memories before put the mobo in the case. You can save a lot using PC 133 memories instead of DDR. If you can find DDR cheap, then go to a nForce solution, far better.
The BIOSTAR that I can recomend, includes a Savage 4 3D integrated, wicht even can play most games at 800*600, but there's another model with Trident video that I discourage. The only problem can be in playing, in all mobos I had problems on entering 3D mode, that shock with the solid stability in normal Windows operation. A BIOS update solve the problem, in both cases. The two mobos worked great, so I broutgh one for my spare machinne (but without video), and its working really good. Since those mobos have a variant of the KT133 chipsets, they can only run the bus at 200Mhz, so they are better suited for DURONs.

 

rondeemc

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It was my understanding that the Intel on board video solution were weak. I know the Savage on board the MSI board is not even up to an nvidia MX but still they are very stable boards and come with some nice extras like Pc-illian and live update for your bios. If you like to monitor the fan speed and temps these board does NOT come with support for that.

newegg for $76
MSI KM133A Pro5 (MS-6340M v5.0 6340M-100) VIA KM133A Duron/ Athlon/ Athlon XP DIMM 200/266 FSB Socket A Micro ATX MOTHERBOARD - RETAIL
 

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Lifer
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<< It was my understanding that the Intel on board video solution were weak. I know the Savage on board the MSI board is not even up to an nvidia MX but still they are very stable boards and come with some nice extras like Pc-illian and live update for your bios. If you like to monitor the fan speed and temps these board does NOT come with support for that.

newegg for $76
MSI KM133A Pro5 (MS-6340M v5.0 6340M-100) VIA KM133A Duron/ Athlon/ Athlon XP DIMM 200/266 FSB Socket A Micro ATX MOTHERBOARD - RETAIL
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uh...wrong...took the ViaHM program off my iwill kk266 install CD and works fine on the Chaintech(Savage) listed above and put USDM off an Epox 8kta+ install CD on it also(that one loads to the systray).
 

zzzz

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ECS K7SEM ( has sound/lan/video) should be about $60.. Pair it up with a $30-40 duron.
 

birddog

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check out justdeals.com for cheap 810 boards from decent manufacturers. They have a Soyo s370 810 chipset board for $34.95; and a slot 1 810e Tyan board for $39.95. Put a cheap celeron on one of these & you are all set.
 

Boonesmi

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the pcchips 810lmr (almost the same as the ecs k7sem)
it is socketA so it will take any of the cheap $30 durons, up to the newest athlonxp's

it has integrated video/sound/lan/56k... you dont need to add a single pci card
 

Peter

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For classic separate CPU setups, go with the 810LMR or its DDR capable successor 841LMR.

Got to be ultra cheap? Use this:

http://www.pcchips.com.tw/M787CLR.html

This uses VIA's Apollo ProMedia 133 chipset ("PLE133"), which means Trident graphics core (2-8MB shared), PC133 SDRAM, two UDMA100 IDE
channels, 2-channel sound, four USB 1.1 ports.
Onboard is a Realtek 10/100 LAN chip, a PCTel AMR modem card is included, and a VIA C3 "Samuel 2" 667 MHz soldered right onto the board.
Fan/heatsink also included.

Also available as Elitegroup ECS P6VEM2. Same thing.

I have been trying this out with Windows and Linux, works fine.
regards, Peter
 

rondeemc

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ScrapSilicon
I said reference to temp monitoring applys to MSI version , I have not had experience with any others:)
 

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Lifer
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<< ScrapSilicon
I said reference to temp monitoring applys to MSI version , I have not had experience with any others:)
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well I thought that is what you meant at first(MSI only..) but then when you read this

<< If you like to monitor the fan speed and temps these board does NOT come with support for that. >>

is it this board or these boards ? ( these usually denotes plural as in All...or is these just a typo :) ) .... Peter.... nice on the PCChips (M787CLR) where do you find it?
 

Peter

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787CLR here in Germany is available from www.snogard.de - board alone or ultracheap complete system.
Find none? Search for ECS P6VEM2 - same thing, different badge.

These boards do have hardware monitoring btw (not that the VIA C3 would care about whether its heatsink fell off :)),
and so do the other two I mentioned.

regards, Peter
 

rondeemc

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good point ScrapSilicon :0

I am also trying to remember if I was wrong on the fan monitoring on the MSI boards. It has been a while since I used one of these. Need to look at the manual again. But I do remember that none of the five that we are currently using are giving us any stability issues. The only downside has been the week video that has problems with some of the games the kids play.


Edit
The version of the MSI board we have (6340M) does not support temp monitoring but does have rpm monitoring. So much for my memory :D
 

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Lifer
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Thanks Peter..I have never had any problems (4 systems built with them...) PCChips. Weak video ...rondeemc...how much memory installed ? as on the Savage there seems to be a correlation as to how much gets shared for video in relation to how much you have (Chaintech above has a single stick of 256MB pc133 PNY or Crucial and 16MB to video).
 

Peter

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Most integrated video units are configurable (in system BIOS) in how much system memory they steal.

VIA Savage-4 cores steal up to 32 MBytes, SiS 730 goes up to 64, ye olde Trident CyberBlade-i1 can only use 8.

If that's going to be a no-3D system, make it use just enough for your preferred display resolution - you'll never need more than 8 megs then. Else give it as much as you can spare, which usually means no more than 16 with 128 MBytes of RAM, and 32 or 64 if you have 256 or more.

regards, Peter
 

Peter

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Burbie PC? ROTFL!

Can't beat the price though :) Brilliant research, ringer!

regards, Peter
 

Peter

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That being an Intel 810 chipset mainboard, it all depends on the chipset revision (and subsequently, the board design making
use of the chipset).

Early, original 810 can only do 66 or 100 MHz CPU FSB, 810E can do 133 - both aren't Tualatin compatible.
The latest, 810E rev. A3, runs Tualatins as well.
So your safe bet would be some "Mendocino" or "Coppermine" Celeron at 66 or 100 MHz bus.

regards, Peter
 

Ringer

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Celys are the prefered cpu for this mobo.....and the good thing is you can always spray paint the box(camoflage,or some other macho color....lol) For $46.00 cant go wrong....highly recommend it...
 

Red Dawn

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You might want to consider using a board with the Sis 630 or the 630T chipset. Asus has the TUSI-M that uses the SIS 630T with integrated Video,Audio and LAN and it supports the Tualatins. You can find it for around $65.00

ECS also has some boards out there that use the 630 with integrated everything .The P6FTP-SL even comes with the C-Media 8738 Audio Hardware Audio onboard. These do not support thew Tulatin though. Like the other integrated motherboards mentioned, these really aren't much for 3D and Games but then that's not what they were designed for.