Need help with choosing a GPU

[TechGPU]

Alright,First thanks for checking this topic out,I would simply like to start explaining from the scratch.....It all started since last year's February...

I just had the worst pc....Got it as a gift as i knew nothing about pcs at all...I couldnt even tell the difference between a GPU and a motherboard....

Now, I turned into a mad man who keeps searching and looking for pc parts...So, After almost one year of searching, I brought myself a list of parts to buy so here is it:

AMD FX-6300

Thats it...No for real....Im not joking...as far as Im concerned I just cant seem to put it together....Perhaps the fx-6300 is the only piece that i couldnt find a bad thing in it

Basically,This build was meant to be a gaming rig that is meant to survive and handle games at Ultra quality at a decent frame rate for atleast 3 years

If there is anything that im meant to constantly change my mind about,Then it has to be the GPU..

I dont need to buy a new case as Im having a full tower ready case......I also dont need to buy a PC dvd player as i already have one aswell.....and also I have 4 gbs of ram ready (Kingston blue hyberX fury) and Im planning to buy another one to support it......I also dont need a hard drive as I already have a 1tb hard.....Its not that great but it will get the job done


So basically what Im missing here are three things....The power supply,The motherboard and The GPU

I shall buy a good motherboard that supports AM3+ processors....I still didnt find one for a great price so far but im sure that i will stumble upon one in the future

Also, The PSU depends on which GPU I shall choose here....So it is bound to it



Im basically looking for a GPU that costs no more than 250$ but in a weird manner.....I will have to get honest here..I live in Egypt....So I just dont have to deal with currency changing only but I also have to deal with customs and the amount of money that the dealers add on the original price as their own profit....which counts as an absolute rip off

The gpu that im looking for is a GPU that can max out most if not all of the games for atleast 3 years at a decent frame rate for the price that i mentioned earlier...Im also looking for more than a decent 1080p experience

However...This seems like an impossible quest....as i tried myself and failed so many times....from hanging on to the 750 ti and the r7 265....all the way to the gtx 970 which is too expensive here as it already has an extra cost of 600 £ on the original cost after changing the currency...(in total it is 3650£)

And the latest disappointment in the recently released gtx 960 for its 128 bit and only 2gbs of vram

I even tried to push for the tri-x R9 280x and the vapor-x....but all of the people told me about Its "recommended" 750 watt PSU


If someone is able to answer my questions I shall be extremely pleased and ofcourse......shocked


1.Is it confirmed that there will be a gtx 960 ti? will it serve more amount of vram than the 960? will it be as well priced as the 960?

2.Are there any modules of the gtx 970 out there that are same or less priced than the zotac?....It is extremely rare to find dealers selling zotac products here....The majority here sell the gigabyte 970 aswell as the g1....

3.Is the gtx 960 any good? Did i misjudge it?

4.What is the gpu that meets my standards? Is there a card out there in this universe that fulfills my needs? I will basically use the GPU in playing games like skyrim (heavily modded),World of tanks,Crysis 3, Battlefield 4 as well as the upcoming Grand theft auto 5...So Im basically seeking for a GPU that has a fair lifespan​

 

[frozentundra123456]

As is the usual advice you would get a better response by posting in general hardware and answering the questions on the sticky. They can help you design a complete system based on your budget and where you will be purchasing the parts.

 

[TechGPU]

As is the usual advice you would get a better response by posting in general hardware and answering the questions on the sticky. They can help you design a complete system based on your budget and where you will be purchasing the parts.

Thanks for the reply...I was actually starting to wonder why I didnt get any reply just yet with 98 views...Im new here so I wasnot aware of this as I saw some people asking questions here so i did the same....Thanks again for the reply..

 

[Pneumothorax]

I don't know how much electricity is in Egypt, but looking at your list of games and wanting as much 'future-proof' as possible, I'd look at a good 290 like the Sapphire Tri-x. Since you're buying a new power supply anyway, the price difference between a good quality 450 watt vs a 650 watt is hardly much anyway. The 960 costs too much and has too little vram for future gaming. The 290 is almost 50% faster than the 960. The 280x is a viable alternative, but the 290 is too close in price and a much faster card.

Don't get the 970 which doesn't have a really 4gb of Vram.

 

[Sunaiac]

!No card except the 295X2 needs 750W.
Even a 290X is fine on 500W.

With a FX6300, I'd pair something like a 270X, maybe up to a 280X.
I actually had a FX6300+270X at some point, for the money it's an awesome setup.

 

[escrow4]

FX 6300 will bottleneck any half decent GPU, its a slow CPU attached to an ancient AM3+ socket. It didn't run games on Ultra in 2014 never mind 2015 and onwards. A 290 will be held back. A 960 would be OK.

 

[TechGPU]

I don't know how much electricity is in Egypt, but looking at your list of games and wanting as much 'future-proof' as possible, I'd look at a good 290 like the Sapphire Tri-x. Since you're buying a new power supply anyway, the price difference between a good quality 450 watt vs a 650 watt is hardly much anyway. The 960 costs too much and has too little vram for future gaming. The 290 is almost 50% faster than the 960. The 280x is a viable alternative, but the 290 is too close in price and a much faster card.

Don't get the 970 which doesn't have a really 4gb of Vram.

Thanks for the reply , really appreciate it

There are PSUs which are up to 1000 watt here....the problem is the price gap between a psu with alot of power and another psu with less power is relatively very expensive here


as for the 970..It was already out of my calculations considering its very expensive price here



for the r9 290 and the 280x....The price gap maybe too close...but not here

Infact,The r9 290 costs almost 1300 £ more than the 280x....given the fact that the sapphire version is no longer available for sale here and Gigabyte stands tall in the market

1300 £ is like buying a gtx 750 ti here...

 

[TechGPU]

!No card except the 295X2 needs 750W.
Even a 290X is fine on 500W.

With a FX6300, I'd pair something like a 270X, maybe up to a 280X.
I actually had a FX6300+270X at some point, for the money it's an awesome setup.

Wow...Well,I didnt come up with the 750 watt info myself...It is just what other people answered me on other forums when i asked about the tri-x...they told me it was written straight on the box..


the 270x looks like a sweet deal...but i wouldnt really give a shout out to a 2gb vram card as a (future proof) card...the card is offered here for a very good price relatively to other cards....but i think the 280x looks like the sweeter deal here

 

[TechGPU]

FX 6300 will bottleneck any half decent GPU, its a slow CPU attached to an ancient AM3+ socket. It didn't run games on Ultra in 2014 never mind 2015 and onwards. A 290 will be held back. A 960 would be OK.

Oh god no.....Even if i overclock the fx-6300 all the way till its maximum limits?!.....Im already struggling here to find a suitable GPU...so the last thing that I need is something bad in the CPU aswell...

But before anything...There are alot of videos on youtube testing the fx-6300 on games like watch dogs,Assassin's creed unity and many more which looked very playable on the maximum settings...

Even games which are still reported to have many problems like DayZ have very good frame rates with the FX-6300

 

[shady28]

Wow...Well,I didnt come up with the 750 watt info myself...It is just what other people answered me on other forums when i asked about the tri-x...they told me it was written straight on the box..


the 270x looks like a sweet deal...but i wouldnt really give a shout out to a 2gb vram card as a (future proof) card...the card is offered here for a very good price relatively to other cards....but i think the 280x looks like the sweeter deal here

I would never run a 280W GPU on a 500W PSU. Google R9 290 + 500W and you'll find more people with black screen issues during gaming than you will who claim to be able to run that combo.

I don't know the exchange rate / taxes etc for importing into Egypt, but given you have a $250 limit I'm going to guess $50 of that will be eaten by taxes.

In that case your best bet is an R9 280 or R9 280X with a good quality 600W PSU, or a GTX 960 with a 500W PSU. Main advantage of the R9's is the extra 1GB of VRAM (they mostly have 3GB). Main disadvantage is they're noisier and take more power / make more heat.

An FX-6300 will bottleneck in some games before the GPU, but generally speaking it will be at such a high FPS that you won't be able to tell anyway.

 

[TechGPU]

I would never run a 280W GPU on a 500W PSU. Google R9 290 + 500W and you'll find more people with black screen issues during gaming than you will who claim to be able to run that combo.

I don't know the exchange rate / taxes etc for importing into Egypt, but given you have a $250 limit I'm going to guess $50 of that will be eaten by taxes.

In that case your best bet is an R9 280 or R9 280X with a good quality 600W PSU, or a GTX 960 with a 500W PSU. Main advantage of the R9's is the extra 1GB of VRAM (they mostly have 3GB). Main disadvantage is they're noisier and take more power / make more heat.

An FX-6300 will bottleneck in some games before the GPU, but generally speaking it will be at such a high FPS that you won't be able to tell anyway.

Thanks alot for the reply and the infos ......

seems like the 280x is taking the lead in my own personal view....I wouldnt actually care at all if Im exchanging a GPU that needs a low PSU to a better GPU that needs a better PSU

And for the noise and heat part...Don't worry...Im dealing nowadays with noises coming out from my current PSU which i bet can outpreform the noise coming out of 2 r9s having dust filled fans in crossfire mod running crysis 3 at ultra settings...


I just cant seem to find a better replacement for the fx....It just has to be the best bang for the buck I have ever seen in a processor....so,I guess i can take this bottleneck problem slightly without regrets

 

[Sunaiac]

I would never run a 280W GPU on a 500W PSU. Google R9 290 + 500W and you'll find more people with black screen issues during gaming than you will who claim to be able to run that combo.

When I say 500W PSU, I mean a PSU that can output 500W (seasonic, antec...) not a PSU where 500W is written on it and it burns at 350W usage (Advance...), of course.

That's actually because of those lying PSU manufacturers that they have to put 750W on the box.

IRL, a 250W 290 plus a 84W i5 will turn perfectly well on a 500W PSU, with 100W of margin at load.