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Need Help Today: ECS K7S5A USB Header

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MikroMak

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Sorry to rush this post guys but I'm suppose to put in a finalized list of specs sometime today for the guy I'm building some computers for. He decided he wanted upfront USB on an ECS K7S5A. Now I personally run this board in my machine and I tried to use an Abit KT7 USB bracket (aren't these things standard?) and the pins on the connector don't line up. The plug physically won't go on. On the ECS board pin 9 is on the wrong side. Whats the deal?? Is this standard? Will the USB header plug on the front of a case fit this? important to know before I start buying stuff. Please help guys, need answers quick.
 
Its called proprietary hardware. The pins are not always compatible. Get the front usb kit from a store, like the Antec one or use the case one. The kit fits either a 3 1/2 or 5 1/4 bay. The check the board's manual for the pin out and make sure the header is pinned correctly.

Otherwise: Kaboom! I have seen boards ruined by not checking pin out.

ps: usb pin - 5 volt - red, data- - white, data+ - green, ground - black.
 
No. its not standard. I exactly kill my K7S6A second USB with wrong one. my exp. in ocworkbench forum, seach there for more info. My exp. tell me that even the color of wires are not standard... 🙁
BTW, the board otherwise still run strong 🙂
 
lsman:


The wire colors and their designation are standard. Just because your board's manual only shows pin1 on the usb header and not what the other pins are for, does not mean that the wire designations are not standard. Your header is not standard. You could just have ordered the correct bracket from ECS. Unless you have the actual pin out you are just guessing which pins do what.

The best advice to anyone who does not have the actual pin out in the manual is to contact the MB maker and ask them for it, or get the correct bracket.
 
This is the info on the ECS USB Pinout, directly from ECS. I think it is actually posted on their site now if you can find it.

New and future ECS boards will follow the following Intel USB header standard.

Signal Name___________Pin___________Pin______ _____Signal Name

VREG_FP_USBPWRO_____1____________2____________VREG_FP_USBPWRO

USB_FP_P0- ____________3____________4____________USB_FP_P1-

USB_FP_P0+____________5____________6____________USB_FP_P1+

GROUND_______________7____________8____________GROUND

KEY____________________9___________10____________USB_FP_OC0

You're welcome!
🙂
 
Buz2b 's picture is right. And i did have all this info before i start. (yes, the website and ocworkbench discussion has these data)
However, what i get wrong is a wrong connector (2X8), (u should get a 2X5) and the connector has wire exactly reverse the order (color standard ?) Red -> ground, green -> - Data, etc.

so if u get a 2X5 connector the color standard explained by Iron Woode is right. But if u get otherwise, better check with a mulitmeter.
 
The more I think about it, and from what is posted here and on other boards, the need for an actual standard for the pin arrangement and the wiring is definitely needed now to prevent this type of confusion.
 


<< the need for an actual standard for the pin arrangement and the wiring is definitely needed now >>

As you can see from my earlier post, ECS stated that,"ECS boards will follow the following Intel USB header standard." That was an ECS Rep talking, not me. Apparently Intel is trying to do just that.
 
Ok after reading through the pin-out and the pin-out on my abit kt7 (which came with the USB bracket I'm using), I concluded that ECS has the pin 9 on the wrong side. I shifted the plug over one set so that the pin 9 on the connector hung off the plug and the pin 9 on the board was not plugged in. It works 🙂 . Thanks for the pin-out guys.
 
That is what I am looking for all week when I bought new Fudin case and with your diagram it works like a charm!!! I am glad to have both USB on the back and front....

Many thanks.
 
I use the antec front usb kit and it works fine on the k7s5a. Dont need to move any pins over or anything.
 
from the looks of it someones standards got mixed up. The USB bracket that came with my Abit-KT7 also works just fine on my Asus A7V and another older mobo (don't remember make or model, somethin wierd). I'm gonna blame this one on ECS. The reason the Antec one worked (theory only here) is this: on my bracket connector pin 9 hole was open and pin 10 hole was closed (physically blocked by plastic), Your Antec may have both pin holes open because pins 9 and 10 are not used except for orientation. but either way if you plug the wrong wires into the wrong pins somethings gonna short because when you run 5v+ down the gorund line you've got problems comin... So I donno, just watch your pin-outs when carrying over usb brackets.
 


<< I'm gonna blame this one on ECS >>

Wrong place to put the blame. There is no industry standard on pin placements for USB extensions; NONE! So blame the industry as a whole or us consumers for not demanding it. In fact, ECS is following the Intel standard so maybe you should blame them. :Q
 
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