Need help selling car privately please

PeeluckyDuckee

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I've never sold a vehicle before and this would be my first. I was going to a Toyota dealership yesterday test driving a Civic when first thing the salesman said was complimenting my 2001 Prelude and if I were looking to sell it. I said yes as a matter of fact.

He obviously liked what he saw. He hussled me to come up with a price. I said around the $20,000 mark and he later asked if that price is firm. He and I both knew market price way higher than black book, which was $15300. Other cities are advertising the same vehicle with similar mileage for around the same price point as the smaller market here in Winnipeg.

Autotrader ad has a 2001 Prelude with 83000KM and warranty until 06 for $19500. Mine only has 68000KM and warranty untill 2009. I mentioned to him it comes with new two front tires, new battery, wires, plugs, caps.

He's a salesman and doesn't want to dicker with price and neither do I. Given what the market "lists" them for, I beleive if I can get $19,500 for it I'd sell it. Does the price seem fair? I want $21000, but I don't want to scare off the guy and deal with listing and appoints later on. If it'll save me the hassle I'll take the lower price.

Now the thing is I owe more on the vehicle than I can get for it. And secondly, I won't be able to sell it to him immediately until 1st week of August. Is it normal for me to ask him to wait for me to get alternative financing so I can pay off the difference and can I ask him for a nominal non-refundable deposit? Of say $500? How can I get his committment?

And with the bill of sale, is this something that's drawn up between both parties on a piece of paper or is this something I can get from CAA?

Sorry for all the dumb questions. Appreciate the help.
 

mwmorph

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It it a bad idea to sell when yuo are upside down on the payments of your car. If you have a car worth 20K but have 25K of payments left, who's gonna swallow the other 5K except fro you when you have to roll it, interest and all inot another interest bearing loan? You're just digging yourself into a deeper hole. Try to get in the gree with your payments before selling a car.
 

PeeluckyDuckee

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I understand having negative equity is not a good thing, but what difference does it make if I sell it now versus later? If I keep it for now and wait for the monthly payments to bring it below $20k, the resale value would be reduced 6-8mnths down the road as well.

I have a buyer now I sell now and use the payments I normally put towards the vehicle loan towards paying off my RCL instead. Both by the way are under same rates of interest of prime plus one.

And the thing is I want it gone now, not six or eight months down the road. It's a hindrance to my other plans. I'm planning on moving and can't bring it along with me. Vehicle insurance is too much over in the other city.
 

cavemanmoron

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local ad,
2001 PRELUDE
EC, 42kmi, auto, incl full ground effects kit, along w/stereo system, $14500 B/O Canajoharie, NY (518) 673-5690 (518) 265-6095
 

sniperruff

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sell privately and you'll get more money. cars such as the prelude and 300ZX have insane resell values.
 

PeeluckyDuckee

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black book $15300 for best condition. Market price is a different story though. Everybody and their grandma (check out autotrader.ca) is listing for thousands above blackbook. Granted listing price and actual selling price may vary.
 

Pepsi90919

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Originally posted by: cavemanmoron
local ad,
2001 PRELUDE
EC, 42kmi, auto, incl full ground effects kit, along w/stereo system, $14500 B/O Canajoharie, NY (518) 673-5690 (518) 265-6095

CANADIAN
 

Mermaidman

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As far as 'commitments' between you and the dealer--GET EVERYTHING IN WRITING. I doubt that a dealer will give you a down payment. Also, from the dealer standpoint, why would it commit to a price for your Prelude when anything can happen between now and August? My suggestion: Arrange for your financing, then go back when you're ready to buy/sell. Right now, you're negotiating from a weak position.

Don't worry about 'scaring off' the dealer. Believe me, the dealer wants your business. You have to understand that you can't get 'retail' price selling to the dealer because it has to sell it and make a profit. The dealer will try to get you 3 ways:
1) Sell the Civic to you at a high price
2) Give you too little for your Prelude, and/or
3) Screw you on the financing

You just need to balance all three factors to get what's best for yourself. Mwmorph is right though, you should keep the Prelude for now if at all possible, but unfortunately, you can't do that. The Honda won't depreciate much over a few months.
 

cavemanmoron

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Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: cavemanmoron
local ad,
2001 PRELUDE
EC, 42kmi, auto, incl full ground effects kit, along w/stereo system, $14500 B/O Canajoharie, NY (518) 673-5690 (518) 265-6095

CANADIAN

Yes I posted before i saw Canada was involved,
Steve Martin's voice>"Excuuuse Me!!
Steve Martin's voice


Is Canada money worth 25% less today?
 

PeeluckyDuckee

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Originally posted by: Mermaidman
As far as 'commitments' between you and the dealer--GET EVERYTHING IN WRITING. I doubt that a dealer will give you a down payment. Also, from the dealer standpoint, why would it commit to a price for your Prelude when anything can happen between now and August? My suggestion: Arrange for your financing, then go back when you're ready to buy/sell. Right now, you're negotiating from a weak position.

Don't worry about 'scaring off' the dealer. Believe me, the dealer wants your business. You have to understand that you can't get 'retail' price selling to the dealer because it has to sell it and make a profit. The dealer will try to get you 3 ways:
1) Sell the Civic to you at a high price
2) Give you too little for your Prelude, and/or
3) Screw you on the financing

You just need to balance all three factors to get what's best for yourself. Mwmorph is right though, you should keep the Prelude for now if at all possible, but unfortunately, you can't do that. The Honda won't depreciate much over a few months.


My apologies. Clarification. The salesman himself wants to buy it privately from me, not on behalf of the dealership.

Currency rates always fluctuate, but last checked it was $0.80US for every $1Cdn selling US funds.

The only reason the loan is upside down right now was when I first got the loan thru the dealership it had a higher rate of 7.2% fixed. Then I refinanced it to the lower prime plus one variable rate with the bank and took out some money at the same time. Otherwise the difference would be about a thousand instead of $3/4 thousand.
 

Mermaidman

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Originally posted by: PeeluckyDuckee
My apologies. Clarification. The salesman himself wants to buy it privately from me, not on behalf of the dealership.
If I were the salesman, I wouldn't commit myself to buying your car until you're ready to sell. I'd just give you 'my word." :D

Go to http://www.carbuyingtips.com/sellused.htm for some very handy tips on buying/selling.