need help quick! which of these two 8600gts?

[j0j081]

this is for a friend's pc. it's an hp computer with a small power supply and no I can't talk him into upgrading it so as I already determined in another thread 8600gt is the best he can go with. I just want to know which of these two to tell him to order. There is a new XFX with a Zalman cooler included and also the EVGA SSC just came out but I think it uses the reference cooler still. Both are clocked real high to 680 core. My main concern now is which is the safer bet. The high clocks worry me a little about the longetivity of the card.

http://www.newegg.com/product/...p?item=N82E16814150258

http://www.newegg.com/product/...p?item=N82E16814130311

Thanks and please don't tell me about another card because like I said new PSU is a no go.

 

[Arkaign]

Does he not have another 24 watts to spare? Consider 3850? It's faster in most cases.

8600GTS = 71 watts

ATI 3850 = 95 watts

References :

http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/...wxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

http://www.theinquirer.net/en/...08300-details-revealed

 

[Arkaign]

Out of the two you listed, I'd go with the EVGA. $10 is $10, and they will be so close that 1-2% here won't make any real difference.

 

[BernardP]

Out of the two you listed, I'd go with the XFX. Only $10 more for the Zalman cooler is a steal. Will be quieter and run cooler. Only downside is that it is 2-slot, so make sure that the PCI slot next to it is empty.

 

[Denithor]

MSI 8600GT dual slot cooler

This looks like it has the 8800-series cooler installed, should run cool and quiet. Not clocked up quite as high as those other cards but still a nice factory OC nonetheless (620MHz vs 540 stock).

 

[j0j081]

I think the evga warranty is only two years on the 8600gt so that might the xfx a better deal but then again evga has the step up program so should he change his mind in 90 days. he is waiting one more day to order so got a little time left to figure it out. his power supply is only 300 watts I think the other cards mentioned would be out of the question.

 

[tuteja1986]

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3151&p=11

http://www.computerbase.de/art...nitt_leistungsaufnahme

If you think you can't run a 3850 then probably can't run a 8600GT :! both of them require a 30AMP 450W PSU.

http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/...w4LCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

 

[imported_Scoop]

Originally posted by: tuteja1986

If you think you can't run a 3850 then probably can't run a 8600GT :! both of them require a 30AMP 450W PSU.

Wow, that's the dumbest thing I've read today. No offence though, just made me laugh.

 

[Creig]

Originally posted by: tuteja1986

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3151&p=11

http://www.computerbase.de/art...nitt_leistungsaufnahme

If you think you can't run a 3850 then probably can't run a 8600GT :! both of them require a 30AMP 450W PSU.

http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/...w4LCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

Ummmm....


I just got done putting a 3870 in a Dell Vostro 200 dual-core system for a friend and it's 100% stable with the stock Dell 300w power supply. I've run through HL2, Far Cry, GRAW and others and it hasn't crashed once or shown any sign of instability. If I would have found any problems at all I'd have bought the 3870 from him (and cancelled my Dell 8800GT order) and recommended he get something a bit lower end. But I haven't been able to spot ANY glitches whatsoever.

As with previous video cards, I think the "recommended" power supply size has a healthy safety margin built in.

FYI - this Vostro 200 has only 1 optical drive, 1 hard drive, 1 case fan and, of course, the 1 CPU fan. So system draw was about as low as you can get before I added the 3870.

 

[j0j081]

Originally posted by: tuteja1986

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3151&p=11

http://www.computerbase.de/art...nitt_leistungsaufnahme

If you think you can't run a 3850 then probably can't run a 8600GT :! both of them require a 30AMP 450W PSU.

http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/...w4LCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

yeah I think that is a little ridiculous.

 

[j0j081]

bumpa.

 

[Syntax Error]

They're both GDDR3, so that's a plus for the 8600 (amongst the rather substantial minuses for the 8600 series), I'd get the XFX version as it comes with a better Zalman cooler. Both companies have good warranties and service, and unless you're thinking of stepping up with EVGA, then go with XFX.

 

[j0j081]

okay will do the xfx.

 

[JACKDRUID]

disable that old floppy disk drive / cd-rom drive if you have to, but make sure you get hd3850.

support AMD, need competition.

 

[j0j081]

Originally posted by: JACKDRUID
disable that old floppy disk drive / cd-rom drive if you have to, but make sure you get hd3850.

support AMD, need competition.

it's not my pc it's a friends. but yeah I already told him to take out anything he's not using.