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Need help picking a hard drive enclosure

Ketchup

Elite Member
So I did a little shopping and thought this would be simple ..... ha!

I am really not that picky, so long as it has USB (for flexibility at other locations) and possibly eSATA (when using at home).

One thing I don't understand is the size (in TB) limitations. Why should an enclosure care what size drive I put it in? It's just a SATA to USB adapter inside, right?

Here is what I am talking about:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-020-_-Product
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-039-_-Product
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-030-_-Product
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-075-_-Product
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-281-_-Product

Any insight would be appreciated.
 
Being made to be cheap more than good, many bridge chips weren't implemented with the ability to handle greater than 32-bit LBA addresses. So, they are limited in size they can use, sort of like old 90s motherboard chipsets. Often, they will silently corrupt going over 2TB, using only the lower 32 bits of the address (ah, the memories of the first time I saw a 3TB drive turn into a 746GB one... 😉).

Chances are any supporting 4TB will work with bigger, too, just that when released, bigger ones weren't available to test. That might have been the case with 3TB rated ones, too.
 
Vantec is, generally, a decent brand (I think, I've bought a few of their enclosures, primarily because they were on sale).

I would go with an enclosure:
1) metal
2) with fan
3) supports greater than 2TB HDDs
4) has interfaces you desire
 
I wouldn't worry about eSATA - USB 3.0 isn't a bottleneck and SATA isn't always (but is sometimes, so you have to watch out!) hot swappable.
 
Why are you also considering docking stations? Not typically something that you use for portability, unless you have one at each location where you access the drives and you're willing to carry bare hard drives around.

But honestly, for portability, unless you really need the capacity of a larger 3.5" drive, you cannot beat 2.5" drives. No need for external power adapters, infinitely more durable to the bumps and bruises of being carried around, and no worries about cooling.

For a 3.5" case I prefer those with no fan and close-fitting cases made primarily of aluminum, for its ability to radiate heat. But I only use 5400 RPM drives in external enclosures, exclusively for monthly backups, so they remain powered on only for a few hours at a time. If you use 7200 RPM drives, a fan may be a good idea.
 
Why are you also considering docking stations?
Not typically something that you use for portability, unless you have one at each location where you access the drives and you're willing to carry bare hard drives around.

Generally all around good tool to have for cloning laptop drives (to an SSD, for instance), backing up a bare disk, secure erase or "scrubbing" a drive to DOD MIL spec. Testing a bare disk on the fly with something like WD Disk Diagnostic, the Seatools or some such program.

But here's what I would do, and Carson is probably solidly in the ball-park with his observations.

I think USB 3 adapters can be backwardly compatible to use with a USB2 controller, so look for that.

For computers without either auxiliary "feature" controller like the Asmedia USB3 controller or something native to the mobo, the Hoo-Too PC . . 002 adapter has two external ports, a Molex port for extra power from the PSU, and a 20/19-pin port for a connector/splitter with two individual female "A" USB ports. It was about $19 at the Egg this week, or look again. Silverstone has an entry that could be more recent than the Hoo-Too, because I hadn't seen it at the Egg when I bought my own Hoo-Too. These are PCI_E x1 cards. The Silverstone has a higher price and seems more compact, so it could fit in the PCI-E x1 close to a video card -- if the latter provides exposure to the slot. Or it would make a good fit in the PCI-E x1 slot northwest of the gfx card center, because less likely to interfere with a heatpipe cooler of most any size.

Then I'd look for even a possibility that I could convert IDE-to-USB2 external drives to IDE/USB3, or SATA-to-USB2/USB3 if you get the picture. IDE should be your lowest priority and possibly even a "not wanted" item, but . . . jus' sayin' . . .

It may be that Vantec makes good external boxes, and I'm not sure I had one. I think I did, but companies can get either better or worse, although experience in years tends to lean toward better.

I bought six Thermaltake "Silver-River" aluminum boxes-- can't remember the model-code -- over a period of years and several years back. Since they're all the same, I just pack away most of the power-bricks and wires as spares, and move the power and signal cables from one to the other. These were IDE to USB2.

I discovered by just removing the IDE-to-USB interface PCB and leaving the power PCB alone, I could convert an IDE-to-USB into an eSATA external box, cannibalizing your typical two-port PCI eSATA plate and cables to your motherboard controller. These are usually bundled with motherboards, and I'd never had a need for them other than this sort of DIY mod project.

YOu can harvest an SATA-to-ESATA molded plug, screws and wire assembly, cut a larger data-port in the back of the old box and drilling holes for the screws.

Those enclosures had gray vented plastic side pieces that clipped onto a bottom and top aluminum half of the enclosure. You could pop them off with your fingers to open the box, which is very sturdy as a complete assembly.

And the boxes were big enough that you could put a regular-sized optical drive into one and convert it to bootable USB.

I'm not getting rid of these Silver River boxes anytime soon. No, sir. I'd like to think there should be a way to refit them as USB3, but eSATA is good enough. Anyway, I can run the original USB2 configuration into a USB3 computer "A" port.
 
Generally all around good tool to have for cloning laptop drives (to an SSD, for instance), backing up a bare disk, secure erase or "scrubbing" a drive to DOD MIL spec. Testing a bare disk on the fly with something like WD Disk Diagnostic, the Seatools or some such program.

Sure, docks are nice tools to have if you find yourself doing a lot of cloning, wiping disks, etc. But if you're looking for a portable hard drive enclosure and plan on carrying one around, it would be an awkward choice.
 
I've got two of these Rosewell enclosures with 3TB drives in them. My computer only has a couple USB 3.0 ports so they are hooked up with eSATA. Transfer speed are good, they go to sleep if you don't use them for a while, the enclosure does that. 80mm fan keeps the drive cool(you can turn the fan off).

I have a few different enclosures, but what I find myself using more than anything is a drive dock like the Rosewell you have listed. The one I have is a Thermaltake, but same deal. Pop a drive in, turn it on and you're good to go. Works with Windows and Linux.
 
Sure, docks are nice tools to have if you find yourself doing a lot of cloning, wiping disks, etc. But if you're looking for a portable hard drive enclosure and plan on carrying one around, it would be an awkward choice.

Well -- I thought I implied that, but perhaps it wasn't too clear.

The Silver River boxes -- I think the model-code was something like "A2*14 or 15 -- are probably each as big as the Modern Library "War and Peace" translation of Tolstoy. Maybe a tad thinner. I know "compact is better," but those suckers were an investment well worth it.

How you'd choose to purchase external enclosures would be a function of both your long-term household upgrade strategy and your inventory of spare drives. Being able to run an old IDE DVD via USB2 is a plus; old IDE drives are still a plus; easy conversion to eSATA is a plus. So there's maybe a point after somebody gets their feet wet with these accessories where you settle on something or "bet" on some model and buy a few.

Unfortunately, the Silver Rivers haven't been available since maybe 2009 or 2010. But these accessory outfits would be producing better units -- more reliable, more quiet, maybe cooler. The old Silver Rivers have a blue-LED fan at the rear, are well-vented and have plenty of interior space for air-flow.

I suppose that's what I'd look for, even in a more compact design.
 
Thank you all for the comments. The enclosure won't be used too often: monthly server backup, at most, and any hard drive data recovery situations I might run into; so I agree the enclosure is the better choice. The interface isn't a huge deal, as long as it has USB for flexibility. If I narrow my search down to Vantec, as they seem to have the best ratings for consumer-grade (read low-priced) enclosure, I come up with this guy:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...75&ignorebbr=1

The negatives are pretty silly, so I think this will work.

Again, thanks so much folks!
 
I have over a dozen of these:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817173043

They all work great, some are 8 years old.

Also have some of these if you need USB3. Although I've found Esata to be much faster, and always use it if available:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817182247

I prefer enclosures that are metal, and have some cooling capacity. I wouldn't even consider one withour E-sata.

Hmm, any idea what makes that first one $50?

Edit: nm, it's the aluminum.
 
OK cool. Weird, but cool. Thank you. Rosewill seems to vary a lot between "good" products and "junk" so I appreciate the user feedback.
 
No,it's not the aluminum, they are both aluminum. Here's the same one in black for $27:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817173042

I don't know why it's priced like that, I've never paid more than $18 on sale for any of them, and I have silver and black, both identical. I didn't even look at the price when I posted the link.

Those are the enclosures(the silver ones) that I have. I believe the difference in price is because one has an 80mm cooling fan and the other does not. I paid a lot less than $49 for them about a year ago.
 
Those are the enclosures(the silver ones) that I have. I believe the difference in price is because one has an 80mm cooling fan and the other does not. I paid a lot less than $49 for them about a year ago.

No, they both have cooling fans, and are both model RX-358 V2. It's right in the title "w/Int.80mm fan":

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817173042


The only difference is the color. Probably just a pricing error on Newegg, I've seen them do it before.
 
The only option on the silver is aluminum, and the only option on the black is aluminum/plastic. I have not idea why the did it this way, as there is only one option (but you have to choose it) and they could have just differentiated in the title.
 
I'll personally want to look at the links others posted between this and my last. I'd said I hadn't bought any of these external kits since maybe '08.

Now I have a 500GB WD "blue" laptop HDD sitting idle because I swapped an SSD into my laptop. Vantec has something with a name like "EZ swap" -- a 3.5" bay for a desktop, and a cartridge which you'd fit with a drive like my WD "blue" 2.5" which swaps in and out. I like that.

As for plastic versus aluminum, it is less likely a cooling issue unless we're talking about 3.5" electro-mechanical drives. It is not a cooling issue for something like a laptop HDD or an "external" SSD.

It is an issue for "going on the road," various rough-and-tumble work environments, because the aluminum drive may be less subject to damage.

So what you want to find are external drive kits which have stellar electronics.
 
The only option on the silver is aluminum, and the only option on the black is aluminum/plastic. I have not idea why the did it this way, as there is only one option (but you have to choose it) and they could have just differentiated in the title.

I'm telling you, they're identical. Same model number, same firmware, everything is identical. I own them both, they have aluminum top and bottom, and plastic covers on the side.
 
I'm telling you, they're identical. Same model number, same firmware, everything is identical. I own them both, they have aluminum top and bottom, and plastic covers on the side.

I am not doubting you. I just can't figure out why Newegg botched it up so bad. On their own brand no less.
 
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