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Need help Overclocking MSI GTX 460 Hawk

crazy.wingman

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Hi ppl

I have bot MSi GTX 460 Hawk 1GB which is at 780 mhz default.
Plz need settings for overclocking it.

My room temps are 33*c n have an good airflow case with 4 fans.
i want to oveclock it to 900mhz or atleast 880 mhz stable.

thank you
 

tincart

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I don't understand the practice of setting a goal of x mhz for overclocking.

Don't you just want to get the maximum stable overclock that you can safely achieve with reasonable noise levels? I set a goal of 1Ghz when I had my 4890 and I could get the core to 1Ghz with the fan on 100% but it wasn't something I was willing to tolerate.

Since then I've looked for that GPU "sweet spot" where performance, noise, and heat all reach a nice balance.
 

tweakboy

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I don't understand the practice of setting a goal of x mhz for overclocking.

Don't you just want to get the maximum stable overclock that you can safely achieve with reasonable noise levels? I set a goal of 1Ghz when I had my 4890 and I could get the core to 1Ghz with the fan on 100% but it wasn't something I was willing to tolerate.

Since then I've looked for that GPU "sweet spot" where performance, noise, and heat all reach a nice balance.

Beautifully said tincart. you rock man!


Also you must use MSI Afterburner . Because if you want to go higher speeds you need higher voltage. MSI allows you to max out the voltage. then you put your fan on 100 percent , when u playin , and come back to windows and thru profile change it back to 30 percent. Your not going to go past 950Mhz stable. So shoot for 900Mhz or 925Mhz core,, your shaders will go up to automatically.

BTW the model of your card that its factory OCed is pointless. YOu just pay more for them to up the voltage a bit and give you a bit of OC. I rather buy Vanilla model and OC it myself with afterburner.

Also 900Mhz shouldnt require any voltage tweaking with MSI burn...Im taking a guess on that one. Once your done with your core / shader OC then now move on too OCing the VRAM memory chips on your board.

Let us know , well get there.. thx :awe:
 

happy medium

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Use msi afterburner,
set voltage to 1.1
set core to 850
test for stability ( it should be stable)

repeat with the same voltage but up the core 10 mhz till you are un- stable.
AFter your done (and at this point you should be at 900+ core), try to lower your voltage as much as possible.

Then tackle the memory....

It worked for me.
 

notty22

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For stability I find Unigne Heaven dx11 demo/benchmark to be great for proving stability. I found with a single card 900/ 990mem stable.
 

happy medium

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I notice you have the same psu as me. Make sure you try different 6 pin connectors, it may also help you to overclock higher. I find some rails are just a little more stable.
Call me crazy but certain connectors seem better than others with this psu.
 

crazy.wingman

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I don't understand the practice of setting a goal of x mhz for overclocking.

Don't you just want to get the maximum stable overclock that you can safely achieve with reasonable noise levels? I set a goal of 1Ghz when I had my 4890 and I could get the core to 1Ghz with the fan on 100% but it wasn't something I was willing to tolerate.

Since then I've looked for that GPU "sweet spot" where performance, noise, and heat all reach a nice balance.

yep right,but don't want the gpu to overclock to its limit, just want to get better fps in crysis 2 on hardcore settings with 1900x1024 Res with 2xAA. rest of the time i use my pc for CG art,Rendering n editing.
can't bare the noise of fans if overclocked to 960mhz or 1ghz.
need a stable less noisy n safe overclock so was just thinking abit of mhz increment will give better fps.
 
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BD231

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I suppose give it a shot but probably best to keep the voltage somewhat low as you're already close to the upper limit of a GTX 460 OC anyway.
 

3DVagabond

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Hi ppl

I have bot MSi GTX 460 Hawk 1GB which is at 780 mhz default.
Plz need settings for overclocking it.

My room temps are 33*c n have an good airflow case with 4 fans.
i want to oveclock it to 900mhz or atleast 880 mhz stable.

thank you

So, anything to report? :D
 

LiuKangBakinPie

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Knock the core clock slider up by 25MHz, hit apply, confirm in GPU-Z and then hop into your favourite game. If all is well, jump back to Afterburner and rinse and repeat until you begin to see weird artefacts in-game or your PC crashes. Then do it all again for the memory.

For the voltage ill avoid that frankly unless you want to mess up your card coz you asking for help on here suggest your not musterd and really really know what your doing
 

Neurotic_X

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Seems like you're new to overclocking. In your case, I would stay away from overclocking with voltage.
 

crazy.wingman

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Ok i'll keep the voltage on auto as it was.
will try overclocking to atleast 800Mhz, i'll keep posting thanks
 

3DVagabond

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Ok i'll keep the voltage on auto as it was.
will try overclocking to atleast 800Mhz, i'll keep posting thanks

Good going. Most 460's will do 800 with no extra volts. Since yours seems to O/C well, I don't think you'll have an issue.

Adding voltage isn't always a good idea. Here's a thermal image of the same model card you have at load. This is not O/C or over volted. Just stock.

http://www.behardware.com/articles/809-13/roundup-14-geforce-gtx-460-1-gb-cards.html

IMG0030147.png


Also the temps of various components in the case. Notice the gpu load temp. It's only 72c, which is quite cool. If you look at the image of the card though you can see that some components on the card are actually at ~101c. This is likely the VRM's. Now 101c is nothing to worry about. Add some voltage though and increase the ambient temp and you could have premature wear, or worse case, thermal failure of these components. It's hard to know, because just monitoring GPU temp alone doesn't help. Temps of these components can go up real fast as you add voltage.

IMG0030449.png
 

LiuKangBakinPie

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Just look out for thermal throttle. That's around 120 degrees then the card is going to slow itself down. Run 3dmark 11 on it if the last few test have lower numbers then you know it went into thermal. Remember also the cards after a couple of hours of use will have higher temps than ones you just oc and tested. So it takes a couple of hours of temp monitoring to find the right spot
 

crazy.wingman

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Good going. Most 460's will do 800 with no extra volts. Since yours seems to O/C well, I don't think you'll have an issue.

Adding voltage isn't always a good idea. Here's a thermal image of the same model card you have at load. This is not O/C or over volted. Just stock.

http://www.behardware.com/articles/809-13/roundup-14-geforce-gtx-460-1-gb-cards.html

IMG0030147.png


Also the temps of various components in the case. Notice the gpu load temp. It's only 72c, which is quite cool. If you look at the image of the card though you can see that some components on the card are actually at ~101c. This is likely the VRM's. Now 101c is nothing to worry about. Add some voltage though and increase the ambient temp and you could have premature wear, or worse case, thermal failure of these components. It's hard to know, because just monitoring GPU temp alone doesn't help. Temps of these components can go up real fast as you add voltage.

IMG0030449.png

should i overclock the mem n shader clock too ?
 

crazy.wingman

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Can some1 plz tell me should i plugin the 3 vcheck cables on gpu which was bundled with molex adapters ?
i have overclocked the gpu to 800mhz. Do i need to use that vcheck cables ?
 

notty22

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Can some1 plz tell me should i plugin the 3 vcheck cables on gpu which was bundled with molex adapters ?
i have overclocked the gpu to 800mhz. Do i need to use that vcheck cables ?

Those are there for you to hook up to a multi-meter.
You don't have to do anything with them.
They are included and built in to the design as a bonus for people to 'tinker' with.
Its similar to enjoying building your own computer. This allows you to note sensor readings, in a more technical way than relying on software readings.
 

crazy.wingman

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Those are there for you to hook up to a multi-meter.
You don't have to do anything with them.
They are included and built in to the design as a bonus for people to 'tinker' with.
Its similar to enjoying building your own computer. This allows you to note sensor readings, in a more technical way than relying on software readings.

thanx
 

crazy.wingman

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After long time...

I am facing problems when overclocking my GPU.

1. When I turn ON and try to increase the GPU core voltage, the settings get back to default and does not remain saved. This issue was for all the voltages though I have unlocked the voltage settings.

2. When clock my card to 850 Mhz with default voltages I have observed that Crysis 3 crash after 4-5 mins of gameplay.

3. After clocking the GPU to 820Mhz Crysis 3 runs smooth but I see Artifacts when heavy explosions occurs. The overclock was stable but Artifacts :(

On default voltages, How much I can overlock my GPU?? and what makes my voltage settings go default again even on changing them.

All ppl with MSI GTX 460 Hawk, plz give me your settings for overclocking the GPU stable at least at 880 Mhz.
 
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