Need help on which to buy AMD/Intel

designit

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I think most members here including the product reviewers are AMD devotees as it shows here in this forum and the way the reviews are conducted. The reviews of Intel's CPU may superficially look as though fair and square. But by dissecting the way it is written it gives the reader a tendency to lien toward AMD. This may explain why most viewers here downgrade Intel and hyped up on AMD.
This site is useless to me since I find it bias, and viewers become belligerent toward another. as soon as positive feedbacks on Intel is mentioned.

There are plenty other websites that are fair and square and best for making the right decision on what to buy-unlike here.

I think the other problem here is- AMD has sucked almost all of you to buy their product and attract you because of winxp64. Now that you are stocked with your outdated product and spent tons of money on DDR400 and all the gauges and find AMD is way off chart on dual, price wise, and Intel is what you should invest on but cant, you are upset and all you can do is promote your immature advice to a new buyer. EVERYONE knows that Intel is a better product when it comes down to quality. Specially when new RAM DDR2 SLI, and HT, Dual CPU, Motherboards, etc are now the latest technology. How many of you have 15 years old Intel CPU and motherboards and still works and how many had to replace their motherboards and burned out AMD CPU?s?
Yahh overclocking is good but why do you have to overclock in first place if you already have a quality and fast CPU? AMD is fooling everyone by unlocking their CPU?s for overclocking. But why? Because they have to compete w/ Intel?s 3.8 GHZ stock CPU. Common guys be real don?t fool yourself.
You know you cant buy AMD dual because it is way too expensive and cant perform as good as Intel?s lowest speed 820D dual that only costs $225.
By the time you put an AMD super clocked super priced AMD dual, you know you could have done this w/ Intel for ½ as much and faster CPU; and keep it for years not worrying everyday for burning up your machine because you had to overclock it to say to others ? my AMD runs @ 2.6" so you don?t look as bad when you are talking to your friend who made a wise decision and bought Intel 3.6 GHZ. Intel?s name is built on quality. AMD?s reputation is based on cheap product and inferior quality. That is why in first place you invested in AMD. But now you feel betrayed because the latest technology that is out in the market is Intel and is less expensive, and you have no choice but jump ship.
Is this why you cant be objective when someone asks your opinion on brand new setup?




 

QueZart

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There are plenty other websites that are fair and square and best for making the right decision on what to buy-unlike here.

Could You Give a few Links?? No Honestly I'd Liek to Read Other Reviews and Opinions then here and Tom's and occasionally Sharky's
 

nick1985

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Originally posted by: designit
I think the other problem here is- AMD has sucked almost all of you to buy their product and attract you because of winxp64.

I think you are dead wrong. I dont give a rats a$$ about winxp64 right now. All I care about, and many others on this forum, is getting the best bang for my buck on a good CPU. The athlon 64 does that. I can get a $140 CPU and turn it into a beast that challenges the best CPU's on the market (see sig). Can Intel do that for $140? No. Also even if I wasnt a cheap a$$, and others on here as well, I (we) would still buy an Athlon 64. The reason being is that they win most benchmarks in most applications, let alone gaming. So to come here and argue that we have been "sucked" to buying AMD soley for winxp64 is utter bullsh!t.


Originally posted by: designit


Yahh overclocking is good but why do you have to overclock in first place if you already have a quality and fast CPU? AMD is fooling everyone by unlocking their CPU?s for overclocking. But why? Because they have to compete w/ Intel?s 3.8 GHZ stock CPU. Common guys be real don?t fool yourself.

Intel 3.8 $632

Athlon 64 4000 San diego $474

Hell, that athlon 64 is $160 cheaper, and owns that Intel at stock speeds in the majority of applications. So much for your argument that AMD has to overclock to beat Intel. :roll:



Im not even going to bother poking holes in the rest of your dumbass argument, its not even worth my time.
 

bob4432

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hahaha you are so funny. you don't make much sense. you quote some intel demo in another forum and think you know everything, you are just ignorant and obviously brainwashed by the intel hype. go to toms where they love intel, around here we like what works for us, regardless if it is intel or amd.

xp64? give me a break, most people are using the 32bit xp.
 
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SlitheryDee

Originally posted by: designit


I think the other problem here is- AMD has sucked almost all of you to buy their product and attract you because of winxp64.

Oh that's right, AMD is the processor manufacturer that is most notorious for using marketing ploys to sell CPUs. (/sarcasm)

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Originally posted by: designit

You know you cant buy AMD dual because it is way too expensive and cant perform as good as Intel?s lowest speed 820D dual that only costs $225.

:laugh:
 

Bona Fide

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Maybe you've been sucked into thinking that AMD is trying to brainwash us.

AMD is pound for pound, the better processor. The P4 3.73 Extreme Edition, Intel's top processor, is still much slower than AMD's FX-57, despite an "enormous" 1ghz clock difference. Hell, the A64 4000+ ($474) is just as fast as Intel's Pentium 4 670 ($850), if not faster. The only category that Intel takes the lead in is some encoding tasks. And of course, they come out on top in certain benchmarks and programs that are optimized for Intel processors.

Part 2, heat output and power consumption. The Intel 6xx series processors are huge heat problems. They have been known to raise the ambient temperature of a room by 3-5 degrees Celsius. And they take enormous amounts of power to run. Zebo, one of the senior members here, made a chart illustrating how much money you could save on your power bills by switching to AMD.

Now, if you wish to be an adamant Intel fanboy, join Intelia. If you would like to accept that AMD is the better processor, at least for right now, then feel free to do so.
 

yanon

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Tomshardware an extensive review which demonstrate that AMD64 system in general consumes less power and dissipate less heat than P4EE system in general. Not to mention that you will get more computing power per dollar spend on a AMD processor than an Intel processor.
 
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HAHAHAHAHAHA :laugh:
I'm sure that the X2 that I'm getting for my system will outperform everything that Intel can offer. And when I overclock it, I'll trash Intel's server CPUs.

Of course, I do prefer Intel's Pentium M in the notebook market.
~Crazy battery life.
~Low Power consumption
~Low heat output

What else could you ask for?

Us guys at Anandtech Forums like to be effective and we like the most bang for the buck.
 

bob4432

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Originally posted by: Kensai
HAHAHAHAHAHA :laugh:
I'm sure that the X2 that I'm getting for my system will outperform everything that Intel can offer. And when I overclock it, I'll trash Intel's server CPUs.

Of course, I do prefer Intel's Pentium M in the notebook market.
~Crazy battery life.
~Low Power consumption
~Low heat output

What else could you ask for?

Us guys at Anandtech Forums like to be effective and we like the most bang for the buck.

would you happen to have a review on the turion? i will need a laptop pretty soon and battery life is sooo important.
 

fierydemise

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who are you really? Porkster? Dothan? or are you one of the "zinnites" Intelia has been raving about?
 
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Our DDR > Your DDR2
Our SLI > Your junky nForce 4 Intel edition
Our Integrated memory controller > Your Northbridge
Our dual-core CPUs >>>> Your dual-core
 

w00t

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Originally posted by: Kensai
Our DDR > Your DDR2
Our SLI > Your junky nForce 4 Intel edition
Our Integrated memory controller > Your Northbridge
Our dual-core CPUs >>>> Your dual-core

 

QueZart

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Been Looking all Over and I still Cant Find one the websites he mentions, So Far every Comparison I've found Lands On the AMD side, except on MultiTasking. For sure idf you Liek to run several Programs at once which I'm guilty Of lol You should get a Intel Chip.... hhhmm
 

designit

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Originally posted by: nick1985
Originally posted by: designit
I think the other problem here is- AMD has sucked almost all of you to buy their product and attract you because of winxp64.

I think you are dead wrong. I dont give a rats a$$ about winxp64 right now. All I care about, and many others on this forum, is getting the best bang for my buck on a good CPU. The athlon 64 does that. I can get a $140 CPU and turn it into a beast that challenges the best CPU's on the market (see sig). Can Intel do that for $140? No. Also even if I wasnt a cheap a$$, and others on here as well, I (we) would still buy an Athlon 64. The reason being is that they win most benchmarks in most applications, let alone gaming. So to come here and argue that we have been "sucked" to buying AMD soley for winxp64 is utter bullsh!t.

Unfortunately you only interested about the part of the chart that shows AMD performs better and that is not by much either. specially most of the charts that is conducted are not practical end users parctice. Why dont you look at the chart where show Intel twice as fast and on most practical usage.

I was talking about dual core and DDR2. Amd lowest is$750 and intel is $225
the chart compare AMD's $1200 CPU with Intel's $370.

Home users need their computers for practical use. and It is crazy to pay $1200 for AMD dual core and try to show off with it that it beat INtel a hair on some crazy benchmarch"1200 browsers openned). who the right mind opens 1200 browsers?
No... Intel does me good with $225 processor and I dont think you can afford $1200 on AMD to just say to me your AMD can beat you when 1200 browsers are open.
I look at 3D, downloading, encoding and all of the daily normal usage with dual CPU and
imultitask for only $225.
And when you bought your $1200 AMD then call me and tell me you have openned 1200 browsers and it is fast.





















































Originally posted by: designit


Yahh overclocking is good but why do you have to overclock in first place if you already have a quality and fast CPU? AMD is fooling everyone by unlocking their CPU?s for overclocking. But why? Because they have to compete w/ Intel?s 3.8 GHZ stock CPU. Common guys be real don?t fool yourself.

Intel 3.8 $632

Athlon 64 4000 San diego $474

Hell, that athlon 64 is $160 cheaper, and owns that Intel at stock speeds in the majority of applications. So much for your argument that AMD has to overclock to beat Intel. :roll:



Im not even going to bother poking holes in the rest of your dumbass argument, its not even worth my time.

 

designit

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Originally posted by: QueZart
There are plenty other websites that are fair and square and best for making the right decision on what to buy-unlike here.

Could You Give a few Links?? No Honestly I'd Liek to Read Other Reviews and Opinions then here and Tom's and occasionally Sharky's
Just as I thought: AMD has gotten you good. so sorry. it does not matter what link I provide for you, you just gona close one eye and just look what you like to see. why dont you just look at the latest review here and where Intel performs much better than AMD. have missed that? sorry I should have know that

 

designit

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Originally posted by: bob4432
hahaha you are so funny. you don't make much sense. you quote some intel demo in another forum and think you know everything, you are just ignorant and obviously brainwashed by the intel hype. go to toms where they love intel, around here we like what works for us, regardless if it is intel or amd.

xp64? give me a break, most people are using the 32bit xp.
call me ignorant. If I was i wouldnt come here knowing it is an AMD site and find out what you guys are about.
But I find it all huff and puff.
telling most people use 32bit shows me who is ignorant.
And as said, as soon as someone starts talking about Intel likes of you start your fouls language. You and posts above you are the proof. you call this intelegent? and I am ignorant?


 

bob4432

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Originally posted by: designit
Originally posted by: bob4432
hahaha you are so funny. you don't make much sense. you quote some intel demo in another forum and think you know everything, you are just ignorant and obviously brainwashed by the intel hype. go to toms where they love intel, around here we like what works for us, regardless if it is intel or amd.

xp64? give me a break, most people are using the 32bit xp.
call me ignorant. If I was i wouldnt come here knowing it is an AMD site and find out what you guys are about.
But I find it all huff and puff.
telling most people use 32bit shows me who is ignorant.
And as said, as soon as someone starts talking about Intel likes of you start your fouls language. You and posts above you are the proof. you call this intelegent? and I am ignorant?

whatever dude, go smoke another. seriously, are you institutionalized?

most peeps aren't using xp64 because the driver base is not big yet a$$

dumba$$, like i said, look at the rig in my sig, it has nothing to do with intel or amd, it is you being ignorant
 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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Originally posted by: designit
Originally posted by: bob4432
hahaha you are so funny. you don't make much sense. you quote some intel demo in another forum and think you know everything, you are just ignorant and obviously brainwashed by the intel hype. go to toms where they love intel, around here we like what works for us, regardless if it is intel or amd.

xp64? give me a break, most people are using the 32bit xp.
call me ignorant. If I was i wouldnt come here knowing it is an AMD site and find out what you guys are about.
But I find it all huff and puff.
telling most people use 32bit shows me who is ignorant.
And as said, as soon as someone starts talking about Intel likes of you start your fouls language. You and posts above you are the proof. you call this intelegent? and I am ignorant?

You think that the majority of users are using 64bit windows and you're calling someone else ignorant for telling you otherwise? :confused:

I also like how you spelled "intelegent" :)