Need help completing my first budget build - $500

[T_Yamamoto]

reading what you wrote ontomshardware, i would go amd if editing is more important than gaming

 

[tinpanalley]

IMO, it's just about a wash and you just as well get the K, but you could probably find a cheaper setup going with a non-K type such as the 2400 or similar.

I really appreciate you looking out for the resale value in the future, man. Seriously. But right now, I gotta pick the best I can afford and what gets me back to my editing as soon as possible. So, if something won't get me as much money back in 2 years, I can't really be bothered right now. I just read this other thing that said that if you're not gonna overclock, getting CPUs that give you that option is pointless when you're on a budget and that money can go on something else like a firewire card or something. Is that a fair assessment?

 

[mvbighead]

reading what you wrote ontomshardware, i would go amd if editing is more important than gaming

Huh?

At this point, AMD is completely out of the race for most segments. They're hardly close in anything when compared to the i5-2500k, which isn't even Intel's top tier. Pretty sure the Intel will handily thwart the AMD in just about anything.

 

[T_Yamamoto]

i think thi would be good for you: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.675155

 

[T_Yamamoto]

mvbighead,

Editing>Gaming.
his budget is LOW
LOW budget go AMD.
so what if they arent on top? they still work perfectly fine. my friends AMD Build works amazing.

 

[tinpanalley]

Yeah, that's me over on tomshardware. The guy there is the one telling me that onboard video processing doesn't matter.

I've also been told pretty much everywhere, regardless of budget, that AMD just can't keep up with Intel these days. Tell me why that's not true. If it's a question of 50-100 bucks I'd rather up the budget than pick an AMD that's weaker but fits my $500 budget. You know?

 

[T_Yamamoto]

CPU+MoBo: AMD A-8 and Asus Mobohttp://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...&SID=u00000687
Case: HAF 912 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...&SID=u00000687 (Best low budget case, ever)
HDD: Samsung F3 1 TB
RAM: Cheap muskin essientials or something

~450 bucks

 

[T_Yamamoto]

well, okay i guess. let me jsut go look into that mobo you want

 

[mvbighead]

mvbighead,

Editing>Gaming.
his budget is LOW
LOW budget go AMD.
so what if they arent on top? they still work perfectly fine. my friends AMD Build works amazing.

So does mine, that isn't the point. The OP has a $500 budget for a board, cpu, memory, and case. Some variant of the Sandy Bridge i5s fits perfectly, including the i5 2500k which likely exceeds his needs.

Point being, his budget ALLOWS an i5 and would be optimal on an i5. There is no reason to look at AMD at this point. NONE.

 

[T_Yamamoto]

oops, sorry, I totally forgot about that.

 

[T_Yamamoto]

I really like this mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130602
what do you think of it?

 

[mvbighead]

I really like this mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130602
what do you think of it?

I would say it is too expensive for what it is. EDIT: Also, no 1394 which the OP requires.

Here's another combo to consider:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.674749

I5 2400 and a GB board with Firewire.

With the HAF912 case, Samsung F3 1tb, 8GB of Crucial DDR3 RAM, you'd be sitting at 489.57 shipped.

Not much different than my initial offering, but the case is a little more expensive (but your preference over the 3000), and the CPU is a bit less expensive. And the case does look to be a good one. I had considered it myself actually, but ended up buying a Lian Li PK57 (presently out of stock).

 

[tinpanalley]

You guys are A-MAZ-ING. Unbelievable. Way beyond the level of help I ever expected to get anywhere. I guess with the help I've given people on music, editing, vinyl, gaming, and other forums I frequent, the help comes back eventually.

If you wouldn't mind, check out this thread I have going with this guy over on Hardware Secrets. Before coming here, he was the one making the most sense to me. What do you think of his advice? He's the one that told me I SHOULD have onboard GPU.
http://forums.hardwaresecrets.com/help-filling-gaps/7324

Let me know if you think he's got good suggestions. You guys have got clearly way more experience in this than me.

 

[T_Yamamoto]

i mean, some people get it just in case theyre GPU doesnt work and stuff like that. i mean, its all in preferance. you already have a GPU which is great. people who need to hold off on the GPU usually go with an onboard.

 

[mvbighead]

There is no reason, IMO, to have onboard GPU unless you intend to use it. That said, if the board already has it, it should neither make nor break the deal.

The board I suggested above does not have it, but you are installing a very capable discrete video card. Why the interest in a built in card in the MB is beyond me, as you'll most likely disable it.

 

[tinpanalley]

Why the interest in a built in card in the MB is beyond me, as you'll most likely disable it.

What happens if I swap to a new card? Or if this one dies on me? How will I see anything?

 

[T_Yamamoto]

i actually dont know the answer to that, i have an onboard on this hunkoftrash pc, but no dedicated GPU so the graphics suck. Well, i guess you could buy a cheap GPU to have just in case...

 

[tinpanalley]

You know what. With my luck, I don't wanna tempt fate. I never win that battle. I'm just gonna limit myself to those with onboard GPU. If I had just gotten an IMAP account for my mail server, I could have recovered all my emails. And now when my C drive crashed I lost all of them. I better just look at mobos with onboard GPU.

So I should just go with what that guy was suggesting then? And an add-on firewire card? Although I already have one.

 

[mvbighead]

What happens if I swap to a new card? Or if this one dies on me? How will I see anything?

If you swap to a new card, you'll use the new card.

if your current one dies, you'll need a new one or a spare card to test.

You can only see a picture if you have a function GPU.

The big thing is, if it costs $10 for a board with built in GPU, do you spend the $10 for a standby card? Personally I won't unless I am spending nothing for that card. Here is an adequate test card:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814131371

Point being, don't spend any extra on something you will seldom if ever use. Much like the 2500k and the overclocking you won't use.

 

[mvbighead]

Try this one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813121527

Unfortunately no combos.

 

[tinpanalley]

Ugh... I'm getting more and more unsure about what to buy. It's not your fault guys. I just am trying to keep myself focused on the end goal without rushing but I also have to get back to work on my project.

So many things to think about...

I think I prefer the peace of mind of a GPU on the mobo.

 

[Maverick6969]

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-ViRGE

 

[DominionSeraph]

A mild overclock of an i5 2500k would be easy as pie, as there's nothing to it but increasing the multiplier. But an i5 2400 is cheaper.

promo codes EMCKCJH26, EMCKCKB22

only 8GB RAM, but you're pretty close to having enough $ for 16GB.

mobo does have firewire

 

[T_Yamamoto]

yeah, i would rather dish ou the extra money for the stand in card.

 

[tinpanalley]

A mild overclock of an i5 2500k would be easy as pie, as there's nothing to it but increasing the multiplier. But an i5 2400 is cheaper.
promo codes EMCKCJH26, EMCKCKB22
only 8GB RAM, but you're pretty close to having enough $ for 16GB.

Hey,
A) Where are you getting those promo codes from?
B) I'm sorry, I don't know what store this is from
C) Sorry it's taken me so long to reply. I'm still racking my brain and can't figure out which to get. I know that I definitely want a simple GPU on the mobo but that's all I know at this point. Now I'm wondering if there's any graphics processing that will still be working even with my video card and that might add power to it? Or is the mobo graphics completely off if a card is plugged in?
D) How does this mobo differ from this one? http://www.gigabyte.us/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3892#ov other than price?