Need help choosing a P&S

toronado97

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I will preface this by saying I'm no photographer. I am however pretty technically minded, and have done a lot of investigative research into this topic over the last couple of weeks. I am looking for a cost effective point and shoot digital camera. I purchased a Nikon S210 just before Christmas as it had garnered good reviews and came in at a price point that I found acceptable. Taking it with me over the holidays has definitely left a sour taste in my mouth however. Many of the images are turning out blurred and I seem unable to find a solution, as my fiance is having the same problems. I attribute it to the camera not having a true image stablization system, but I can't be sure. What I do know is that it's not performing up to my standards, and I will be taking it back to find a suitable replacement.

I am looking for a camera that is capable of taking good quality shots of animals and people (portraits I guess), that can function and take acceptably sharp images in low light situations such as in a museum, or inside buildings (something this Nikon struggles mightily with) and something that has at least a 3x optical zoom lens capable of taking at least acceptable outdoor landscape type shots, as well as shots of animals on zoo settings and in the wild. Pretty basic needs I feel. I am looking to spend no more than 200 dollars on it, and the neighborhood of 150 is the sweet spot. I realize I'm not getting a DSLR at that price, and don't expect to. I just expect the camera to do it's job sufficiently well that I don't cringe with every other shot I take.

I am currently looking at two Canon's, the Powershot A590 IS, and the Powershot A1000 IS. I honestly don't know what the differences are in terms of the inner workings other than that the A1000 is a 10 megapixel camera, with a 4x optical zoom. Both camera's seem to have garnered great reviews, and both camera's come in under 160 dollars for me. I am certainly not limiting my search to those two models, but they seem to fit the bill for me. Any suggestions about those two models, or any other makes in that price range? I've heard good stuff about the new Panasonic's, but don't know a lot about them.

Any help you all could provide would be greatly appreciated, my fiance is very frustrated with this Nikon, and I am as well considering it produces pictures that my old Kodak 3MP camera can blow away.
 

extra

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Well, hate to sound like a broken record here, but check out the following cameras if $200 is your budget:

Panasonic TZ4 and TZ5. The canon models you linked are also good. I'd stick with panasonic or canon for point and shoot cameras, honestly. Really though, you will *love* the tz4/5. I'd probably grab one of them (probably the 4 for your price range) unless you find the canon controls more intuitive, in which case--get the canon. After expirimenting with point and shoots a bit (i'm normally an slr guy) it really blew me away how much better the panasonic and canon cameras were in picture quality than the rest at higher isos. To be honest though sony seems okay as well but memory stick..bleh.. f that lol (and i'm not familiar with their cameras controls, canon ones are second nature and panasonic ones are second nature having used one of their video cameras).
 

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I just got my fujifilm f100fd yesterday. It can be had for $28x delivered online and there is a $100 MIR to make it a bargain. I looked at the premium compact and enthusiast compact reviews at dp photo and I am convinced that in the p&s category, it is second only to the panasonic DMC-LX3 (which costs over $400 at this time) at producing good pictures, especially indoors. Unfortunately there are no shutter/aperture priority modes available, but if I want to take creative/artistic photos I'll get a DSLR and do it right. I only wish it had RAW mode so I could explore working with those types of files.

conclusion of premium compact comparo:
http://www.dpreview.com/review...remiumgroup/page12.asp

If you go back a few pages and look at the studio/real world performance 100% crops you can see why I selected the f100fd. Also, from what I can tell, the wide angle range is surpassed only by one other camera in the 2 comparos I read and I (can't immediately recall why) didn't think that the images produced by that one were as clean. On the other end it has a very respectable 5x optical zoom.

The controls on the camera are few and simple, and there happens to be a "museum mode":

[ MUSEUM]
Use this mode for taking pictures in places such as museum where the use of flash and
making an operation sound and a shutter sound are restricted. Flash mode is forcibly set to
Suppressed flash, and operation sound, shutter sound, and self-timer lamp are off.

It does have a "dual mode optical stabilizer" which does help but it is not a damped lens housing like in my hd camcorder. I don't expect it to work miracles and will (force) set ISO accordingly and/or use a tripod.

Complaint: the fully auto mode allows pictures to be taken at up to ISO 1600. I'd rather that be set to 800, but the very next setting is Auto with adjustments where I forced a limit so I guess it is no big deal. It is just that while it can do 1600 better than most other p&s cameras, it isn't brag-worthy (like featuring GW Bush as president vs Robert Mugabe). I guess I'm trying to say that I wouldn't use ISO 1600 mode to show off the camera but I absolutely would use 800 or lower.
 

toronado97

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Actually decided to go with the Panasonic TZ4 Extra. Kind of impulsed it today at Circuit City but got it for 199 which was a pretty good deal considering some of the prices I've seen floating around. Have only taken a few shots around the apartment but so far I'm very impressed with it. It's tack sharp even in low light situations and I'm not noticing noise to be an issue. Only thing I don't like about it is that it seems to really search for AF any time the zoom is cranked up past 4x, but I expect the AF performance while zoomed will be better outdoors, which is where I'll be using the zoom anyway.
 

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=) Excellent. And yes, it will be a bit better in bright light unless you are pointing it at a really low contrast object. But point and shoot AF is often quite slow, just the way they are :)
 

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Originally posted by: toronado97
Actually decided to go with the Panasonic TZ4 Extra. Kind of impulsed it today at Circuit City but got it for 199 which was a pretty good deal considering some of the prices I've seen floating around. Have only taken a few shots around the apartment but so far I'm very impressed with it. It's tack sharp even in low light situations and I'm not noticing noise to be an issue. Only thing I don't like about it is that it seems to really search for AF any time the zoom is cranked up past 4x, but I expect the AF performance while zoomed will be better outdoors, which is where I'll be using the zoom anyway.

You can speed up the AF by setting it to 3 point "H" mode or single point AF mode. Also, turning off the "AF Macro" mode and just use the normal AF mode can speed up AF.