Need HDMI out from mother board for new monitor

[Hdmi]

I will be buying a new monitor soon, But my CPU or mother board does not have HDMI output, so I guess I need a new PCIe graphics card with HDMi and DVI out.

But the problem is my mother board is i845G which does not have PCIe it has only PCI.

So are there any graphic cards which have DVI or HDMI out but use PCI and not PCIe .

So people what should I do?

Do i have to go for a new mother board with PCIe slots then buy a PCie graphics card .

Please suggest the best way to get HDMI out from CPU to monitor.
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[herrjimbo]

here's an example
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-ATI-Rad...D-/180946639758?forcev4exp=true&forceRpt=true

a bit pricey but you can shop around for something more inexpensive.

not sure if you're going to find a pci format with hdmi, but i could be wrong.

 

[Hdmi]

here's an example
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-ATI-Rad...D-/180946639758?forcev4exp=true&forceRpt=true

a bit pricey but you can shop around for something more inexpensive.

not sure if you're going to find a pci format with hdmi, but i could be wrong.

Hi thank you

Forget to mention that I also have a AGP slot , are these cards good enough or should I completely go for new set up. You know new processor new mother board etc.

also I found this .http://www.flipkart.com/forsa-nvidi...ZGQC&ref=60139d0c-3597-484d-81ff-0bcd3fd14fc5

Is this good enough For a Full HD monitor,

 

[KingFatty]

If you are getting a new monitor, can you get a new monitor that can receive input from something other than HDMI? That might give you more flexibility, if your monitor supports something else besides or in addition to HDMI.

 

[herrjimbo]

if you have the means, go for a new setup. no offense, but yours seems to be a bit oudated.

 

[Hdmi]

If you are getting a new monitor, can you get a new monitor that can receive input from something other than HDMI? That might give you more flexibility, if your monitor supports something else besides or in addition to HDMI.

Thank you all for your reply
yes my LED monitor will have VGA , HDMI and DVI input, but I want to take Digital out, I do not want to use VGA as I have used analog too long .

Short cut would be to get a AGP graphics card with DVI out as shown here
http://www.flipkart.com/forsa-nvidi...ZGQC&ref=60139d0c-3597-484d-81ff-0bcd3fd14fc5

But I do not want to compromise on quality. I really want a good Home Theater PC .

Please suggest options .

 

[KingFatty]

DVI and HDMI are the same quality because they use the same digital signals. So if you use DVI your picture would look just as good as HDMI. They are both digital.

Can you save money by getting the DVI video card that doesn't have HDMI?

Also, VGA can look good too, especially if you'll be displaying home theater stuff like movies and TV shows, where the VGA can soften the image a bit. Though I guess that's like arguing how an analog record player can sound better than a digital CD player. Personally, I prefer digital (for sound and for visual).

I currently use a cheap cable that has HDMI input and DVI output. The reason is that the laptop only has HDMI output and VGA for the two external monitors. So it's not a fancy conversion or anything, it's just connecting the HDMI pins to the DVI pins and it works.

One bonus of HDMI is it can carry the audio signal too, so you might save having to use a separate cable for connecting the audio from your computer to your speakers. But, that would depend on getting a fancier video card that supports audio output through the HDMI.

 

[Hdmi]

DVI and HDMI are the same quality because they use the same digital signals. So if you use DVI your picture would look just as good as HDMI. They are both digital.

Can you save money by getting the DVI video card that doesn't have HDMI?

Also, VGA can look good too, especially if you'll be displaying home theater stuff like movies and TV shows, where the VGA can soften the image a bit. Though I guess that's like arguing how an analog record player can sound better than a digital CD player. Personally, I prefer digital (for sound and for visual).

I currently use a cheap cable that has HDMI input and DVI output. The reason is that the laptop only has HDMI output and VGA for the two external monitors. So it's not a fancy conversion or anything, it's just connecting the HDMI pins to the DVI pins and it works.

One bonus of HDMI is it can carry the audio signal too, so you might save having to use a separate cable for connecting the audio from your computer to your speakers. But, that would depend on getting a fancier video card that supports audio output through the HDMI.

Hi Katty Thanks

Yes the video card shown above is not very costly, It is certainly with win reach. That is why I am a bit apprehensive to buy it, looks cheap. Good things really cant be too cheap can it .

anyway may be it is worth a try before going for a complete new setup .

so do you think this card can suit my purpose
NVIDIA GeForce FX5500 AGP

http://www.flipkart.com/forsa-nvidi...ZGQC&ref=60139d0c-3597-484d-81ff-0bcd3fd14fc5

 

[AnitaPeterson]

Why even get a videocard? You have a pretty old system, so I don't think you're either playing modern games or watching 1080p content on a HDTV.

Skip the videocard altogether and get a USB to HDMI adapter. Problem solved.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16812119460

 

[SPBHM]

you probably can find a Geforce 4 MX or FX 5200 PCI with DVI out (which you can use an adapter to HDMI I think)

 

[herrjimbo]

Why even get a videocard? You have a pretty old system, so I don't think you're either playing modern games or watching 1080p content on a HDTV.

Skip the videocard altogether and get a USB to HDMI adapter. Problem solved.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16812119460

that's pretty nice. i wasn't even aware something like that existed.
or for the same price, vga to hdmi adapter.
op, there ya go. simple and inexpensive.

 

[SPBHM]

those usb to hdmi adapters have some limitations I think... USB 2.0 bandwidth is quite low (even when compared to PCI 33)...

 

[VirtualLarry]

get an fm2 rig. seriously. 845G and DDR1 and a P4 are totally outdated.

don't even bother wasting your money upgrading it piecemeal.

 

[Hdmi]

Thank you all

@Anita - Hi this device has some limitations I think, yes I am not a Gamer, but I definitely want to watch content in 1080p now. That is why I am getting the Dell U2312hm , so I want to upgrade my system. This device if connected to my old system usb port , and other end of this device I connect HDMI cable and take it to the input of monitor , you are saying that my new monitor will display my Desk top?


@Virtual Larry I like your suggestion, I really feel outdated. but my old system is running fabulously, with no problem so I never felt the need to upgrade it , until now.
That too only for HD, all I want is to be able to take Digital signal out of motherboard rather than analog VGA.

Kindly bear with me I am amateur in this area, what is a Fm 2 rig ?


I was thinking get a New mother Board , with PCIe expansion slots , fit my old p4 processor in it , buy a good Graphics card which will have DVI and HDMi out also I may need DDR3 RAM . bang that's it .

Now what I am not sure is this , will my old p4 fit in the new mother board?

Has the processor got to do anything with HD display? So even if it fits I may need a new one ?

And what is this processor with inbuilt graphics ? if someone could kindly explain what I am missing I could certainly become up to date.

 

[KingFatty]

We can provide more specific help also, if you give us more details on what stuff will you be displaying from your computer onto the monitor?

For example, you mention it will be used as a home theater, but what will be displayed?

If you plan to display Blu-Ray movies, it may be better to get a new system. But if you will be playing low-resolution streaming videos, it may be that your current VGA will be fine. In fact, depending on what you display, you could be disappointed in DVI or HDMI, because your eyes won't be able to tell the difference and you won't get any benefit for spending on the upgrade.

Perhaps the best action would be to not upgrade anything yet, and get the new monitor and hook it up via VGA. Then, see if you like it. If you turn out to dislike it, only then would you need to determine what might help for upgrading. I think just the monitor upgrade alone, connected via VGA would be a stunning enough upgrade that you won't even be thinking about whether it needs HDMI or DVI.

 

[Hdmi]

@king many thanks

I just want to use DVI or HDMI just for the sake of it , because it is the latest, I know VGA is not Bad , I have an HP monitor now which is capable of displaying HD content from STB, but I feel it uses too much power around 150w . So I wanted to go for a new LED IPS panel. Then gradually the desire use DVI and HDMI started .

Then I realized I do not have HDMI or DVI out from Mother board , hence started my quest.

Since I am upgrading my monitor , why not do the complete thing.

Well I do not have a Blu ray player but may get one in future, so yes being able to play Blu ray movies will be nice.Although not anytime soon.
Just the thought of being Up to date makes any one feel better.Provided they have the means.

can you attempt to address these questions specifically :That I asked in the last post , I need to understand why I am doing certain things rather then just do them . If you attempt to answer these maybe I can figure out for myself what I need to do.

"I was thinking get a New mother Board , with PCIe expansion slots , fit my old p4 processor in it , buy a good Graphics card which will have DVI and HDMi out also I may need DDR3 RAM . bang that's it .

Now what I am not sure is this , will my old p4 fit in the new mother board?

Has the processor got to do anything with HD display? So even if it fits I may need a new one ?

And what is this processor with inbuilt graphics ? i

 

[VirtualLarry]

fm2 mobos
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...CE&PageSize=20

cpus
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...e=Socket%20FM2

 

[Hdmi]

@ virtual larry Thanks

You know when I click on the last link , it says I do not have permission to view that page !! Don't know why .

Any way How do I recognize whether I have ATX case or not , then I will need to for a new cabinet too.

@larry also if you please make me understand why I am doing what I am doing , then it would really help.

 

[AnitaPeterson]

OP:

Basically, you have a motherboard with an old chipset (i845) and CPU (Pentium 4)
This system CANNOT play any 1080p content without choking.

You're seriously better off buying something new, which would last you longer, than try to upgrade piece by piece.

You don't even need to go for the latest and greatest technology. The AMD Llano CPUS are now about 30 dollars; pair one of those with a nice, previous-generation motherboard, get some 4 GB of RAM, and you can build yourself a system using all the existing components in your machine, while staying under $150.

 

[Hdmi]

@ Anita highly grateful

can you stay with me for a while, need to clear some very basic questions.Please bear with me its like asking asking to learn ABC from a Phd holder .

Do each different kind of processor need a different mother board.
Say I have AMD'S IGP ( Integrated Graphic Processors ) First of all How many of AMD APU'S are there .

Secondly do each of those kinds use a common board or do each of the kinds need a separate mother board .

 

[VirtualLarry]

Do each different kind of processor need a different mother board.
Say I have AMD'S IGP ( Integrated Graphic Processors ) First of all How many of AMD APU'S are there .

Secondly do each of those kinds use a common board or do each of the kinds need a separate mother board .

First of all, AMD's "APU" is just a CPU, with an IGP on-die (integrated graphics build into CPU).

There are several generations of APUs. Llano is the code name for the first-gen desktop parts, and uses socket FM1.

Trinity is the code name for their newer APUs, which have an updated CPU+GPU core, and use socket FM2.

Edit: Both of those APUs can play back 1080P content (Blu-ray, with appropriate playback software installed).

 

[Hdmi]

@ virtaul larry thanks

Are these APU' s compatible with nvidia dicreet graphics card , in case I need one in the future.

AMD also makes Discreet cards right? I mean are there any constraints on choosing a discrete card after I have chosen an AMD APU.

 

[KingFatty]

if you choose to get AMD APU, also note that you can get a discrete AMD video card that will "hybrid crossfire" and work together with the integrated video card of the APU. So they work together to give more performance total. You could also use an NVidia discrete card with the AMD APU, but then you can't have them work together for increased performance, and would likely just disable the integrated video of the APU.

However, you may find that the AMD APU all by itself is more than enough for your needs, and won't even need to spend any money getting a separate discrete video card.

Also, you are in a good position where you may be able to shop for great bargains on older models, getting a nice computer for very little money.

But again, you will need to identify what you plan to use the computer for, and then verify that the older models will be more than enough for making you very satisfied. But, if you plan to connect 5 monitors and do fancy graphics work, then maybe you will need to spend a little extra.

 

[Hdmi]

@ kingfatty

That was very helpful. what about Intel options, does intel have any IGP ( Integrated Graphic processors ) .

what are they called ? How do they compare to AMD's APU.
are they Cross fire compatible or do I have to disable the IGP in order to work on the D- gfx card.

 

[Hdmi]

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