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Jjoshua2

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So I am doing a technical writing class, and I am going to write a paper on "How to increase the reliability of the power grid", but first I need to have someone answer a survey. I'm not entirely sure of the best 10 questions to ask, so you can modify them a bit, but I hope someone will help me with this.

How reliable is the power grid?

What are the causes of downtime/power outages?

What is the estimated dollars lost caused annually by power losses?

What are steps to increase uptime?

Are power companies pursuing these options or are they prohibitive?

What are some challenges facing the power industry?

What do you see in the industries future?

What have been the largest/costliest power outages in history?

How is network theory applied to the power grid?

Would an advance in network theory increase reliability cost effectively?

If anyone would care to answer these questions, I would be very grateful, and you can use Google too I guess, but I am supposed to be surveying a field person or expert.
 

JohnCU

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Originally posted by: Jjoshua2
So I am doing a technical writing class, and I am going to write a paper on "How to increase the reliability of the power grid", but first I need to have someone answer a survey. I'm not entirely sure of the best 10 questions to ask, so you can modify them a bit, but I hope someone will help me with this.

How reliable is the power grid?

alll things considered i'd say it's pretty reliable

What are the causes of downtime/power outages?

equipment failures (transformers, breakers, etc), natural causes (weather) or squirrels causing short circuits (seriously)

What is the estimated dollars lost caused annually by power losses?

i have no idea but where i work, we generate 950 MW~ per unit and when load is high and we're down, we lose $500k to $1 million a day

What are steps to increase uptime?

equipment upgrades?

Are power companies pursuing these options or are they prohibitive?

i just saw an article yesterday where we are working with GE to pursue their smart grid technology stuff

What are some challenges facing the power industry?

obsolescence issues, losing experienced people to retirement, not enough people coming out of college wantin to go into power anymore

What do you see in the industries future?

hopefully more technology but i'm not exactly sure

What have been the largest/costliest power outages in history?

the only thing i can think of is the north east blackout (03 or 04?)

How is network theory applied to the power grid?

not sure, i think they divide everything up into "nodes" though (or maybe i'm calling it something wrong, just trying to remember something from power distribution class)

Would an advance in network theory increase reliability cost effectively?

probably but i can't say for certain, i don't get involved in distribution/transmission

If anyone would care to answer these questions, I would be very grateful, and you can use Google too I guess, but I am supposed to be surveying a field person or expert.

 

josh0099

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Originally posted by: Jjoshua2
So I am doing a technical writing class, and I am going to write a paper on "How to increase the reliability of the power grid", but first I need to have someone answer a survey. I'm not entirely sure of the best 10 questions to ask, so you can modify them a bit, but I hope someone will help me with this.

How reliable is the power grid?

Depends on your definition of an outage....Is an outage where customers out or sections of line which we are able to switch around to cause no customer outage?

The company I work for and most probably uses 3 Indexes which they measure themselves by which are the following:

CAIDI Customer Average Interruption Duration Index Text

SAIFI System Average Interruption Frequency Index Text

SAIDI System Average Interruption Duration Index Text

The links give an industrial wide median for these values.

What are the causes of downtime/power outages?

Downtime for the grid is mainly due to weather events, as for most upgrades etc... we are able to switch the customer load to cause minimal amounts of outages..

What is the estimated dollars lost caused annually by power losses?

Power loses from what outages, line loss, or equipment losses?

Outages cost for storms are millions a year, some of the most recent bigger storms calls for crews of a few thousand people working around the clock, and usually require hotel stays etc...for the out of town crews. On top of food etc...

Line loss/equipment I never really looked into but its there...


What are steps to increase uptime?

Sensationalizing circuits as much as possible is about the only way to increase uptime, but there are prices to be paid when doing this.

Also Smart Grid will eventually be a self healing circuit. Meaning that once a fault occurs the circuit will try and pinpoint the problem and switch out the section automatically to clear the fault and leave as few people as they can out. Really quiet interesting stuff, but it is just now in the developmental phases.

Are power companies pursuing these options or are they prohibitive?

Covered above....

What are some challenges facing the power industry?

Smart Grid is going to be the driving factor in the next 20 years.

Also Distributive Generation will be another side I see growing. This is where you are producing power at your house with Solar Panels, Wind Mills, etc...

What do you see in the industries future?

Producing safe and reliable power.

What have been the largest/costliest power outages in history?

?? Not a power grid historian....

How is network theory applied to the power grid?

Not sure what network theory you are really talking about the most basic of circuits have switches where we can get our power from different sources, then on the circuit it self you have fuses which once blown they are out for good, then you have reclosers which will take a fault shut it self off and then try and turn back on to see if the fault has cleared (Tree limb or Animal). You try and have fuses on every tap of the circuit to protect the main line. You also try and have a reclosers inline to sensationalize the main line to protect that.

Some of the bigger cities have power networks examples would be New York City, which I have few little knowledge on and couldn't really tell you much about it.

Transmission side which may be what you are really looking for I have little knowledge of it as well so....




Would an advance in network theory increase reliability cost effectively?

Probably not.

If anyone would care to answer these questions, I would be very grateful, and you can use Google too I guess, but I am supposed to be surveying a field person or expert.

 

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Originally posted by: Jjoshua2How reliable is the power grid?

reliable enough. 99%+ uptime in most parts of the US. answer needs to be considered by georgraphic area.

What are the causes of downtime/power outages?

transformers exploding
rodents turning power stations into homes and becoming circuit elements.

What is the estimated dollars lost caused annually by power losses?

don't know

What are steps to increase uptime?

forget Just-in-Time ordering of components that can be expected to fail with any regularity. pay the money & have them in stock

Are power companies pursuing these options or are they prohibitive?

depends on the region & the power company. Constellation sucks. in many cases, the power companies that are making the most money do it by rewarding managers that save $ by scrimping on equipment preparedness.

What are some challenges facing the power industry?

* the historical circumstance known as Peak Oil
* price volatility in the energy resources industry, e.g. price of oil.
* collapse of credit markets.

suggest reading Matt Simmons, who manages about $60 billion at an investment bank in Texas. specifically, his talk about Rust.

What do you see in the industries future?

divide the country into 2 parts - Texas and the other 49 states. Texas has their own power grid.

i see problems in general, as customers become unable to afford to pay their utility bills, and the cost of energy resources rises.

What have been the largest/costliest power outages in history?

don't know

How is network theory applied to the power grid?

if you're talking about Thevenin's Loop and Node Laws, i think the power industry has a different set of terminology, though obviously working with the same laws of physics.

Would an advance in network theory increase reliability cost effectively?

theoretically, yes. but in general, it's managers not listening to engineers, and managers not listening to common sense, that causes the problems.

If anyone would care to answer these questions, I would be very grateful, and you can use Google too I guess, but I am supposed to be surveying a field person or expert.

i have permission to use Google ?! i'm so Stoked ! ! !
 

JohnCU

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i tried to find the program we used in college to model transmission/distribution networks but i can't find it
 

BrownTown

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What are some challenges facing the power industry?

* the historical circumstance known as Peak Oil
* price volatility in the energy resources industry, e.g. price of oil.
* collapse of credit markets.

suggest reading Matt Simmons, who manages about $60 billion at an investment bank in Texas. specifically, his talk about Rust.

You do realize like 1% of power generation is from oil right? The price of oil has absolutely ZERO affect on the price of electricity.

As for the rest of the questions, the reliability is like 99.99% (more reliable than almost anything else man made), the reason for most power outages are the weather, small animals, and equipment failure. Losses in power lines account for likely tens of billions of dollars, but relatively speaking they only like 7%. As for the biggest challanges the largest by far are environmentalists and NIMBYs who won't allow new power lines even though everyone knows they are required.

As for network theory, I'm not sure how they all work, but I've been in the reliability center for a company responsible for the reliability of some 55,000 GW of generation and they have a program that runs thousands of times a second that takes the current condition of the transmission grid (which is fed in via fiber optics from all the substations and plants) and simulates failures of transmission lines, power plants, or substations to determine where a failure would cause the most damage in order to allow them to try and dispatch generating assets or reroute power in order to reduce the chances of a blackout.
 
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Biggest problem is legislative, our lawmakers passed laws thinking electricity was like gas that you could build a pipeline for from NY to California and be fine. It's not. Because of this, the carriers are very reluctant and unwilling to invest in a better power structure. It's next to impossible to make anything more than revenue if you are a carrier.
They're in no rush to fix the legislative problem because if we don't fix it then the government can swoop in and make everything work right.
 

PowerEngineer

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Originally posted by: huberm
you can increase reliability through ISOs (independent transmission system operators) and RTOs (regional transmission operators). Check out www.midwestiso.org or www.pjm.com .

So they claim. I note that the Midwest ISO and the New York ISO were victims of the August 2005 East Coast black-out. I'm a bit skeptical of claims that larger organizations or more regulation lead to higher reliability.
 

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Originally posted by: PowerEngineer
Originally posted by: huberm
you can increase reliability through ISOs (independent transmission system operators) and RTOs (regional transmission operators). Check out www.midwestiso.org or www.pjm.com .

So they claim. I note that the Midwest ISO and the New York ISO were victims of the August 2005 East Coast black-out. I'm a bit skeptical of claims that larger organizations or more regulation lead to higher reliability.

I think recent history has borne out the opposite approach to to what huberm is suggesting. Deregulated electricity has been a failure in many locations and is almost certain to raise electricity prices. The problem is the fact that the two cheapest generating plants are nuclear and coal, and you need BILLIONS to build either, no company can build them without billions of dollars of financing which they can never get when the regulatory climate changes too often.
 
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