Need ATOT input on an employee I have. *Update: We have a resolution!*

LordRaiden

Banned
Dec 10, 2002
2,358
0
0
Ok, I've got a bit of a dillema. One of the employees in our EDS department committed the cardinal sin of customer relations yesterday. I didn't hear about it today, and only from the customer. And boy did I ever hear about it! I got an ear full of it for 3 full hours! If I've got any butt left, I'll be surprised. Well, I did manage to calm them down, assured them the issue would be resolved and I would deal with this individual. Thankfully I have a good repore with them from years of having to deal with them which helped a lot. After he got done fuming and venting all over me he did at least come back to his sences. They're our 3rd largest account in the company and I don't want to risk loosing them again. Anyways, this employee is a young 19 year old kid working a position over in the EDS department I don't feel that he's qualified for in the slightest.

I admit that our customer is a bit of a demanding individual, many would mistake him for an outright obnoxious, self richeous, egotistical prick. But considering the amount of money he brings into the company annually I can't risk loosing them, even if their liason person to us is a jerk. :) Well, anyways, the young employee in question is the nephew to the owner, and he got the job per the owners (his uncle) request. Now if this kid was anyone else he would have been fired and long gone well before I had even heard about it. Instead the buck got passed to me to deal with and I don't feel like passing it off to my boss as I feel that this is my responsibility to take care of. What complicates things is this is a relative of the owner and the kid has a real ego/attitude issue.

What should be my recourse on him? (I'll take verbal suggestions and/or just fill in the poll)

Edit: I forgot. The cardinal sin he committed was he cursed out the customer to his face.

EDIT2: Ok, I talked to my boss since the owner is out of town till Wendsday. He's gonna take up this issue and talk to the owner directly about this. He's also going to deal with the customer directly because he believes part of this is the customer's fault and not entirely the nephew's fault, although they are apparently equally at fault. But either way it's out of my hands now. Whew!! :)
 

NewSc2

Diamond Member
Apr 21, 2002
3,325
2
0
hahaha oh man that is one sticky situation. What's the carnal sin of customer relations?

I'd talk to the owner.
 

LordRaiden

Banned
Dec 10, 2002
2,358
0
0
Originally posted by: NewSc2
hahaha oh man that is one sticky situation. What's the carnal sin of customer relations?

I'd talk to the owner.
The cardinal sin of customer relations is you don't call the customer very dirty, evil, derogatory names to their face. Even if they deserve it. It's 100% quality customer service at all times. AKA, be nice, even when they're being a prick. :)

His screaming and cursing the customer out is wrong. Very wrong.
 

Viper GTS

Lifer
Oct 13, 1999
38,107
433
136
Originally posted by: LordRaiden
Originally posted by: NewSc2
hahaha oh man that is one sticky situation. What's the carnal sin of customer relations?

I'd talk to the owner.
The carnal sin of customer relations is you don't call the customer very dirty, evil, derogatory names to their face. Even if they deserve it. It's 100% quality customer service at all times. AKA, be nice, even when they're being a prick. :)

His screaming and cursing the customer out is wrong. Very wrong.

I believe the word you're looking for is "cardinal."

You might want to look up the word carnal.

;)

Viper GTS
 

Kev

Lifer
Dec 17, 2001
16,367
4
81
by the way if a customer ever gave me an attitude i wouldn't hesitate to put him/her in his place. which is why i am not cut out for the service industry at all
 

Marshallj

Platinum Member
Mar 26, 2003
2,326
0
76
Originally posted by: PipBoy
he had sex with the customer????

Yeah, and it sounds like the customer is a large account with more than one person. So he was having a whole lot of sex with many people in that account. Like a damn porno.

I'll vote for the last option, sounds like Libido Boy created "a real sticky situation".
 

masterxfob

Diamond Member
May 20, 2001
7,366
5
81
let your boss know what you think should be done (fire the terd) and then let your boss decide if that's what should be done. that way, it's all on his ass if his nephew should fvck up again :)
 

Marshallj

Platinum Member
Mar 26, 2003
2,326
0
76
Seriously though, fire the kid and you'll be the one looking for a job. Blood runs thicker than water.

I just say reassign the kid to a different department or account.
 

RossMAN

Grand Nagus
Feb 24, 2000
79,079
455
136
Originally posted by: Marshallj
Originally posted by: PipBoy
he had sex with the customer????

Yeah, and it sounds like the customer is a large account with more than one person. So he was having a whole lot of sex with many people in that account. Like a damn porno.

I'll vote for the last option, sounds like Libido Boy created "a real sticky situation".

ROTFLMAO

That had me rolling, thank you :)
 

BooGiMaN

Diamond Member
Jul 5, 2001
7,955
0
0
explain the situation to your boss and end by asking 'so what do you want to do about this?'
 

JEDI

Lifer
Sep 25, 2001
29,391
2,738
126
ok, i voted talk to the owner. but that was b4 you're update of him cursing out the customer.

FIRE HIS ASS!!!!! you have EVERY right. he put the company in jepordy. i would put it on the same level as him cornering a female employee and groping her.

btw-what the hell is the newphew of the owner of a billion dollar company doing working in a sh1t job like cust service?
 

Vic

Elite Member
Jun 12, 2001
50,422
14,337
136
Originally posted by: LordRaiden
Edit: I forgot. The cardinal sin he committed was he cursed out the customer to his face.
:Q
That is very serious. First though, you need to learn how to freakin' spell. :p Seriously.
Second, you need to confirm that incident did, in fact, take place and not just take the customer's word for it. As you said, the customer is a jerk, and he may be making it up just because he is pissed about something else.
I'm voting that you should write the employee up, but I believe that you should talk to the employee first (privately) to confirm the incident, then discuss the matter with the owner. If the employee confesses, stronger action may be necessary. Under the circumstances, and based on the employee's relationship to the company's principals, I believe firing for a first offense would be a wee bit too extreme. You should, under no circumstances, suggest that course of action to the owner. If it happens, let him be the one to suggest it.
 

Howard

Lifer
Oct 14, 1999
47,982
11
81
Indeed. Be sure to check both sides of the situation, even though you may not want to bring yourself to believe what one party says.
 

LordRaiden

Banned
Dec 10, 2002
2,358
0
0
Second, you need to confirm that incident did, in fact, take place and not just take the customer's word for it. As you said, the customer is a jerk, and he may be making it up just because he is pissed about something else.

Actually, I did verify it. 3 managers can attest to this. I found out about it through the daily reports after the customer got done biting my head off. So after getting the customers word, I verified it with other managers. Apparently he's been a bit of a problem since the day he got here, but everyone's too scared to do anything about it.

Also, I typoed (which I seem to do a lot) when I said I only heard about it today and only from the customer. That was an error. Today was in fact the first time I heard about it, but I got more than one person's story on it.
btw-what the hell is the newphew of the owner of a billion dollar company doing working in a sh1t job like cust service?
Well, the job he's in is a multi-purpose roll. He does face to face customer relations, but he also does a lot of planning, coordinating, and other things dealing with installation and implementation of EDS devices (Electronic control systems and monitors) at client sites. So it's not just customer service. Thats an extra duty on top of the main work. His record of getting things right hasn't exactly been stellar either from what I understand.
 

gopunk

Lifer
Jul 7, 2001
29,239
2
0
i would find a way for the owner's contact info to fall into the hands of the customer, and let it somehow be known to the customer that the only way for this kid to get fired is through the owner (which is pretty much true, unless you want to risk your own ass)

i wouldn't talk to the owner about it either, wouldn't want to be the shot messenger.
 

orion7144

Diamond Member
Oct 8, 2002
4,425
0
0
I think there should be another option of having him transfered to another dept. No the best idea but it could save your behind depending on your relationship with the owner.