Need advise on speakers

Dimkaumd

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I am putting together my first ever home entertainment system. Unfortunately, I don't know much about it.

Which speakers would you recommend? My living room is 21'4" by 12'10"

My budget is approx $500-600 for five speakers. Which brand/model is good, and what specifications should I be looking for, like power etc?

thanks!
 

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Does $500-$600 include a receiver and subwoofer, or just the 5 speakers themselves?

I'm sending you a PM with a work in progress I'm putting together as an intro to HT.
 

Dimkaumd

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500-600 for speakers... as i understand the receiver and subwoofer will cost me another 1000, but i cant afford it right now.
 

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Originally posted by: Dimkaumd
500-600 for speakers... as i understand the receiver and subwoofer will cost me another 1000, but i cant afford it right now.

So do you have a budget receiver and sub that you're using already then?
 

Dimkaumd

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I won't be using a sub or receiver at all for a while. I just want to get the speakers in for now.
 

Oyeve

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JBL E20 speakers sound and look great for the price. 3 pairs should be well within you limit and one can be used as a center.
 

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Originally posted by: Dimkaumd
I won't be using a sub or receiver at all for a while. I just want to get the speakers in for now.

Well you need a receiver or amp to power unpowered speakers.

If you want to get a whole system going, I would recommend looking at Onkyo HTIB sets (or other sets recommended on the AVSforum HTIB area).

If you want to build the system up gradually, I would recommend getting a receiver in the $300-$400 range and a pair of decent bookshelf speakers in the $200-$300 range.

From there you can take one of the "upgrade path" routes I mentioned in the PM.
 

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well, ideally I'd like to install the ceiling speakers (i think i forgot to mention this.)

I'd like to put in the speakers now, and then get the rest later on. Since im doing the remodeling right now, its perfect time to cut holes in the ceiling.

I want to get a 5 speaker system....which brand is best for that in my price range?
 

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Ceiling speakers would work fine for surrounds / rears, but I would recommend getting traditional speakers or in-wall speakers for the front three if possible.
 

cheesehead

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Hmm..

The best deal on speakers - period - is to go DIY. A pair of Modula MTs should be easy enough to build, and using them in-wall just requires a small crossover tweak.

http://www.htguide.com/forum/s...dd&p=354545#post354545

Bohlender-Graebner makes some amazing in-wall speakers, too.

Otherwise, I'd go with some Radiient Europas ($100/pair - CHEAP! - or $300/5 channel set, which gets you a proper center-channel speaker) or Paradigm Atoms ($220/pair, $140 or so for the center channel.)

 

Oyeve

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Originally posted by: Cheesehead
Hmm..

The best deal on speakers - period - is to go DIY. A pair of Modula MTs should be easy enough to build, and using them in-wall just requires a small crossover tweak.

http://www.htguide.com/forum/s...dd&p=354545#post354545

Bohlender-Graebner makes some amazing in-wall speakers, too.

Otherwise, I'd go with some Radiient Europas ($100/pair - CHEAP! - or $300/5 channel set, which gets you a proper center-channel speaker) or Paradigm Atoms ($220/pair, $140 or so for the center channel.)

I have a pair of Paradigm Atoms V.3. They are "ok" kinda flat and needs EQ but pretty decent.
 

Excelsior

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Originally posted by: Cheesehead
Hmm..

The best deal on speakers - period - is to go DIY. A pair of Modula MTs should be easy enough to build, and using them in-wall just requires a small crossover tweak.

http://www.htguide.com/forum/s...dd&p=354545#post354545

Bohlender-Graebner makes some amazing in-wall speakers, too.

Otherwise, I'd go with some Radiient Europas ($100/pair - CHEAP! - or $300/5 channel set, which gets you a proper center-channel speaker) or Paradigm Atoms ($220/pair, $140 or so for the center channel.)

I have a pair of Modula MTs. Absolutely outstanding. :thumbsup:
 

cheesehead

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Originally posted by: konakona
If I had that kinda budget I would try to look for some used maggies...

Magnepans are the speakers from hell. They sound great - no doubt about it - but you have to be standing dead in front of the damn things, or they sound like trash. Unless you're sitting in your listening chair, they're useless.

Furthermore, you've got to keep them away from walls (at least 5' so you don't get reflection), position them perfectly in the room, and get a subwoofer to cover anything below 80hz. And older magnepans are highly prone to damage, and unlike normal speakers, are REALLY hard to fix.

They do sound nice, though.

Originally posted by: Oyeve

I have a pair of Paradigm Atoms V.3. They are "ok" kinda flat and needs EQ but pretty decent.

The Paradigm Atoms are benefitted by a sub, especially for HT and gaming. Also, they seem to be a bit picky about room placement - shoving them on bookshelves might not be a good idea. They're not bad speakers, though, and you won't find much better in the price range.

I have'nt listened to the Europas much, but they do seem to be very, very good. However, they're less efficient, can't play as loud (the Atoms I listened two two weeks ago in a store demo could play freakishly loud with no difficulty), and are definitely best used with a sub.

On the other hand, the Radiients have a lot of good points. They're cheap - only $100 a pair! - and sound very, very good. Because of the coaxial design, you can mount them at odd angles without sonic problems - while a normal speaker will seem to have the high frequencies coming from a different place than the low frequencies if mounted sideways, the Radiients are more or less the same from all angles.

Also, they have something which gives a definite advantage over the Atoms: A front-mounted port. While "port noise" from air moving in and out of the port can sometimes be a problem at high volume levels on a port facing forwards, it also means that the speaker can be mounted directly against the wall (although you'll need to EQ away the increased bass response if you do.)

If you want in-walls, the Bohlender Graebners will work very, very well. I've played with their Neo3 tweeter a bit - while I can't speak for the woofers used in the BG in-wall speakers, the Neo3 is one of the best tweeters ever made, and the Neo3PDR's off-axis response makes it a wonderful choice for in-wall use - it should do a fine job of allowing you to listen anywhere in the room.

And there's still the Modula MT. You really can't go wrong with having the equivalent of a good pair of studio monitors in your walls. And, out of all the speakers I've listed, this is the only pair that works A-OK without any form of subwoofer.