Need advice on Asus P8Z77-V issues

[BrandonT]

Just built a Ivy Bridge new machine with the 3570K and P8Z77-V. Pretty cool so far but I'm having a couple issues. For an added layer of safety I have standard user account that I use for all my everyday work, I only log into the admin account to remove/install programs. So this is my issue: when I log into the SU account I get a barrage of UAC prompts asking for the password to let a bunch of the ASUS software run. It is really annoying. Do they all really need to run with admin privleges? I'm tempted to modify all the exe's so they don't require admin and see what happens.

Another issue is Virtu MVP. In the SU account it is disabled, if I click enable I just get an error message saying "not implemanted" What does this mean? Does Virtu only run under Admin?

Also I left the computer on overnight and this morning gave the mouse a wiggle to turn the screen on and it stayed black...hit the power button and it stayed running so I assume it wasn't just a vid card issue. My power setting is on high performance profile. Looked at SMART log in Intel SSD Toolbox and it showed 5 unexpected power loss and 5 Unsafe Shutdown Count. Not sure if it is related or not. I just set hard drive power off to Never and screen shutdown to Never so maybe I can see what the screen says if it does it again.

Intel 520 SSD
Asus p8Z77-V
Sapphire 7850
Seasonic X-560
Mushkin Redline

 

[gramboh]

Do you have the latest Intel RST drivers installed (Rapid Storage Technology)? Do you have the drives set as hotswap enabled in the UEFI? AHCI mode set as well? Windows 7 SP1 with all patches?

 

[BrandonT]

I did NOT have RST installed at that time. I do have them installed now. Hotswap disabled. AHCI mode. Windows up to date. BIOS updated before windows was installed. I was looking at some of the freeze ups on the net and one of the more common ones has something to do with iastor, but that didn't show up in Event History so I don't think that is my problem (yet).

 

[superxero044]

I am having the lockups on awake as well. I have the RST software installed. I have the Asus z77 V-Pro board.

If anyone has any information I would appreciated. I posted a question about this elsewhere. I will let you know if I can resolve it and hope you will do the same.

Thanks

 

[BrandonT]

I am having the lockups on awake as well.

Thanks

When you say awake what exactly do you mean? I have hibernation and sleep disabled, so I am only waking the monitor.

 

[superxero044]

Mine is waking up from hibernate edit: sleep

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[BrandonT]

If I chuck the Asus software can anyone suggest a good hardware monitor software?

 

[BrandonT]

Figured out the Virtu issue. Can't be logged into two accounts at the same time. Makes sense.

Anyone have any feedback on the Asus software issue I mentioned? Or good hardware monitor software to take its place?

 

[dlpdx]

I pulled my hair out with the issue of all the UAC prompts by the Asus AI Suite II programs at logon for my user account. I experimented a lot and I ended up using Task Scheduler in Win 7 for the Asus AI Suite II executable to trigger at the log on of any user and to run with the highest privileges. I specified (in Security options) to use my administrator account when running the task. Now I don't get a any UAC prompts when I log in to my user account. I do get one UAC prompt when I run the Asus AI Suite II executable. This is far from perfect but it is much more manageable.

I was very tired when I did this and I took the shotgun approach when I used Task Scheduler as in addition to the AI Suite II executable I created tasks at logon for DigiPowerCOntrol Help, Network iControl Help Execute, WiFi GO! Server Execute, and USB 3.0 Boost Service. My guess is that these last four tasks are not necessary but I haven't verified that. I'd suggest trying the AI Suite II Executable and seeing if that works for you.

 

[gramboh]

Figured out the Virtu issue. Can't be logged into two accounts at the same time. Makes sense.

Anyone have any feedback on the Asus software issue I mentioned? Or good hardware monitor software to take its place?

I've been using HWiNFO64, it's free and displays a lot of info and has .csv logging ability as well. I use the Ai Suite tools, mostly for Fan Xpert 2 (disabled Network Ai though as it was causing problems in Chrome), but I do not use the Asus monitoring module actively.

The Lucid software just seems to be really poorly designed and coded, even the UI is ugly, I have zero desire to even experiment with it at this point.

 

[BrandonT]

I pulled my hair out with the issue of all the UAC prompts by the Asus AI Suite II programs at logon for my user account. I experimented a lot and I ended up using Task Scheduler in Win 7 for the Asus AI Suite II executable to trigger at the log on of any user and to run with the highest privileges. I specified (in Security options) to use my administrator account when running the task. Now I don't get a any UAC prompts when I log in to my user account. I do get one UAC prompt when I run the Asus AI Suite II executable. This is far from perfect but it is much more manageable.

I was very tired when I did this and I took the shotgun approach when I used Task Scheduler as in addition to the AI Suite II executable I created tasks at logon for DigiPowerCOntrol Help, Network iControl Help Execute, WiFi GO! Server Execute, and USB 3.0 Boost Service. My guess is that these last four tasks are not necessary but I haven't verified that. I'd suggest trying the AI Suite II Executable and seeing if that works for you.

Genius! I've never messed with task scheduler but I will look into this. Thanks.

I've been using HWiNFO64, it's free and displays a lot of info and has .csv logging ability as well. I use the Ai Suite tools, mostly for Fan Xpert 2 (disabled Network Ai though as it was causing problems in Chrome), but I do not use the Asus monitoring module actively.

The Lucid software just seems to be really poorly designed and coded, even the UI is ugly, I have zero desire to even experiment with it at this point.

I'll look into HWiNFO64. Yeah the only reason I'm using Virtu is the ability to use QuickSync for transcoding while using a discrete GPU for my displays. Being able to compress a bluray to a small, high quality mkv in 35 minutes is pretty awesome.

 

[cmdrdredd]

If I chuck the Asus software can anyone suggest a good hardware monitor software?

What do you want to monitor?

Temps? Use real temp. Vcore? use CPU-Z. Fan speeds? You can install Asus' Fan Expert separately.

Hardware monitor will display other voltages and info but it's not a 100% complete readout for Z77 yet. Missing DDR voltage and the +12v rail for example. http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html

 

[BrandonT]

Mostly looking at temps and vcore for when I do a mild overclock. I won't be tweaking every single voltage or anything.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Well, some monitors can see your rails, memory voltage, chipset temps and stuff like that so when you do a stress test you can see if your BSOD is due to your +12v rail dropping too low or something similar.

For just CPU temps and voltage I'd use CPU-z and realtemp. Hwmonitor will also work fine too.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

Maybe my attitude toward this issue needs revision. I think UAC arose with VISTA, and I continue to leave it disabled under Windows 7. With my choice of Internet Security software and a double SW+HW firewall, I don't worry about it. I don't just install any software without assuring myself that it won't let the gremlins in.

P8Z77-V . . . . Hmmm. . . . a socket 1155 board. I see that customer reviews on the Egg only go back to April of this year. When exactly was this board first released? I'm only guessing from the lack of older customer-review posts that it's fairly recent.

Perhaps a BIOS revision is in order. Check the ASUS web-site.

On the matter of monitoring software, many of the recommendations cited here are responsible and correct.

Even so, I noticed with my Z68 (ASUS P8Z68-V-Pro) mobo that ASUS revisions to their own monitoring software seemed to attempt giving a TCASE temperature estimate (relevant to the Intel TDP spec). I use all the other software our colleagues here have cited, but I also use the ASUS software. I just don't run two different monitoring programs at the same time.

 

[borisvodofsky]

LOL, i can't believe you guys actually use bundled software. :thumbsup:

 

[bankster55]

Actually new bios for Z77 just showing up right now
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/asus/mb/LGA1155/

 

[cmdrdredd]

LOL, i can't believe you guys actually use bundled software. :thumbsup:

Asus's software is actually quite good. You can do almost everything the bios can do without restarting.

 

[BrandonT]

I pulled my hair out with the issue of all the UAC prompts by the Asus AI Suite II programs at logon for my user account. I experimented a lot and I ended up using Task Scheduler in Win 7 for the Asus AI Suite II executable to trigger at the log on of any user and to run with the highest privileges. I specified (in Security options) to use my administrator account when running the task. Now I don't get a any UAC prompts when I log in to my user account. I do get one UAC prompt when I run the Asus AI Suite II executable. This is far from perfect but it is much more manageable.

I was very tired when I did this and I took the shotgun approach when I used Task Scheduler as in addition to the AI Suite II executable I created tasks at logon for DigiPowerCOntrol Help, Network iControl Help Execute, WiFi GO! Server Execute, and USB 3.0 Boost Service. My guess is that these last four tasks are not necessary but I haven't verified that. I'd suggest trying the AI Suite II Executable and seeing if that works for you.

Having trouble getting this task to execute. Still got the UAC prompt at startup, so I went to check "run with highest privileges" (forgot it first time), then I have to enter my password for Admin account, but when hit enter I get this error message:

 

[stuartl89]

On Windows 7, even when you are logged in with an account that is in the local administrators group, you are still running without admin privileges. If a program is uac aware and understands the need to request elevation, you get a uac prompt. If it does not you may get one but most likely it will just fail. I guess where I am going with this is that it's not necessary to run as a normal user account for fear of some malicious bit of code getting run without your knowledge as it would need to request elevation and you would get a prompt.


-S

 

[BrandonT]

Went into the Admin account and changed the "highest privileges" setting. Logged into the standard account and still a bunch of prompts.

On Windows 7, even when you are logged in with an account that is in the local administrators group, you are still running without admin privileges. If a program is uac aware and understands the need to request elevation, you get a uac prompt. If it does not you may get one but most likely it will just fail. I guess where I am going with this is that it's not necessary to run as a normal user account for fear of some malicious bit of code getting run without your knowledge as it would need to request elevation and you would get a prompt.


-S

*sigh* I already have my standard account setup with preferences and everything. I suppose I could just delete and just use the Admin if what you are saying is true. I just don't want to go through all the work now that everything is setup how I like it. Dammit. Thanks for the heads up though.

 

[dlpdx]

Having trouble getting this task to execute. Still got the UAC prompt at startup, so I went to check "run with highest privileges" (forgot it first time), then I have to enter my password for Admin account, but when hit enter I get this error message:

In my administrator account I used the following settings (hopefully I get them all) for 'ASUS AI Suite II Execute':

General Tab:
'Run only when user is logged on' checked (selected)
'Run with highest privileges' checked
'Run whether user is logged on or not' is NOT checked
There also is an option 'When running the task, use the following user account' I have my admin account selected.

Triggers Tab:
Trigger: At log on
Details: At log on of any user
Status: enabled

Actions Tab:
Action: Start a program
Details: "C:\Program Files (x86)\ASUS\AI Suite II\AsRoutineCOntroller.exe -open" with

no quotes

Conditions Tab:
None of the 4 main check boxes are checked

Settings Tab:
'Allow task to be run on demand' checked
'Run task as soon as possible after a scheduled start is missed' is checked
'If the running task does not end when requested, force it to stop' is checked

The Conditions and Settings Tabs were untouched by me - they are default options as far as I know.

Try those settings above and see if it works. I was extremely tired when I did this. I may have only created the one for the Suite and Windows 7 may have created the others. I don't remember creating these specifically though I may have.

I have 4 other tasks in my "ASUS" task group in addition to 'ASUS AI Suite II Execute'. All but one of these other four have the same settings on all the other tabs except for

the Actions Tab settings which I listed below.

"C:\Program Files (x86)\ASUS\AI Suite II\DIGI+ Power Control\PowerControlHelp.exe" with no quotes and no "-open" argument (no argument at all)

"C:\Program Files (x86)\ASUS\AI Suite II\Network iControl\NetSvcHel\NetSvcHelpEntry.exe" with no quotes and a -delay argument

"C:\Program Files (x86)\ASUS\AI Suite II\Wi-Fi GO!\AssistTools\WiFi GO! Server.exe"
with no quotes and no argument

"C:\Program Files (x86)\ASUS\AI Suite II\USB 3.0 Boost\U3BoostSvr.exe" with no quotes and no argument

USB 3.0 Boost additionally varies on the Conditions tab. Two items are checked:
'Start the task only if the computer is on AC power' is checked
'Stop if the computer switches to battery power' is checked

I guess a colon and a backslash is interpreted as an emoticon.

 

[BrandonT]

dlpdx thanks a ton for the help. I'll check it out when my video encode is done. Speaking of which...AI Suite shows my cpu around 28C every time I looked at, and now encoding with Handbrake and all cores 100%, it only shows 34C. Surely this is not correct? I'm nn bios 906, I see there have been two updates since then but I'm afraid to try one since 1205 sounds flaky already and I'm not having any of the problems others are with instability or recognizing USB devices. Maybe I will install one of those other hardware monitors anyway and see what they show for a temp.

 

[dlpdx]

You're welcome Brandon.

I'm currently using BIOS version 1206 without any issues at all but I do realize that others have indicated having a problem with not being able to enter the UEFI BIOS at bootup time. That said, BIOS version 1015 worked well for me as well. I updated to 1015 before I installed the OS on my new system. Temps read correctly with 1015. I have no experience with 0906.

Edited to add: ASUS is well known for not providing a complete list of updates for each of their BIOS updates. I do experience a shorter bootup time with 1206 though 1015 wasn't too bad for starters.

 

[dlpdx]

BrandonT, in message #23 I somehow overlooked your comments about CPU temperatures. That doesn't sound quite right. The only thing that I've read about CPU temps and AI Suite II is that AI Suite II can give erroneous results (temps) if more than one hardware monitoring program is being run at the same time, in particular AIDA64.