Originally posted by: GalvanizedYankee
Do check out the reviews at SPCR but do bear in mind that SPCR has sold out to Antec.
As opposed to having an extreme bias against Antec that requires you to bash them constantly in every thread? :roll:
The P180 sells now for the $100 it might be worth. It's front door will warp & hinges will break. The side panels will seperated(they are layered). It weights 31 pounds empty.
Problems that were fixed, as well as the Neo PSUs that come with the P150. As you've been told over. And over. And over again.
SPCR did a half hearted positive review of the Lian Li PC-101. You might consider reading several reviews on the silence seeking Lian Li cases. Thier build quality can only be dreamed of by a rebrander like Antec.
Aluminum sucks ass compared to steel when dealing with vibration. Sorry, but the P180 was designed with Mike Chin for extreme silence and the Lian-lis aren't engineered for anything near that level of quietness. Other than a small amount of profits from the few SPCR P180s at endpcnoise, when most of the cases sold are the non-SPCR version from other places on the web, WHERE do you get the idea that they're in Antec's pocket? They're not getting cash from them. Antec is the only company that has actively shown any interest in designing cases to cater to a particular crowd - silencers. Other companies tend to stick to either normal ATX cases or go for the side-window and pretty lights bling crowd.
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article632-page7.html
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The Lian Li PC-101 is a decent starting place for a quiet computer. It may well be the quietest aluminum case we've encountered thus far.
It is very rare for them to review a product from ANY manufacturer; Thermalright, Antec, Scythe, Silentmaxx, Silverstone, Yeong Yang,etc. where they sound overwhelmingly positive or negative; a lot of the times they sound almost wishy washy because they list all of the negatives and positives, and have trouble saying "this is worth buyin" or "avoid like the clap"
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In truth, these flaws are easily addressed, and are common to a great many other cases. However, Lian Li's high pricing may work against it. For US$200 this case should be closer to perfection, not just workable. In a $100 case, a few acoustic drawbacks are acceptable; after all, silencing is difficult to achieve without careful optimizations and lots of experience.
Most of the flaws they found were from lack of soft mounting fans, which other than the Sonata series I'm not aware of ANY case including fan isolators... including the P150/P180. The drives are hard mounted, as they mention is common to MOST cases anyway; no specific bashing of LL here. Oh, and the filter blocks airflow to the hard drive. The only real complaint involves the high price and the lack of cooling around the hard drive section.
The best part of the PC-101 are the details. Little things like thumbscrews for everything, a clever drive mounting system, stealthed drive bays, and a spring-loaded door latch. The thick aluminum panels and a sexy appearance don't hurt either. Bottom line is, if you're looking for a case with noise as your first requirement, one of Antec's steel cases is a better place to start. On the other hand, if you want to know whether it's possible to build a quiet system in a PC-101, the answer is a positive yes. For all our complaining, we were still able to build a quiet system in the PC-101 without much effort. This is the first aluminum case we've ever been able to say that about.
Yeah they mention Antec, but they praise the features of the LL and say it is the BEST aluminum case they've reviewd.
Yes!! SPCR is owned by Antec, much the same as DFI-Street is owned by OCZ PSUs 😛
Yes, and the government is behind the assassination of JFK and are working with the "Grey" aliens in covering up cattle mutilations and crop circles. If you LOOK at the recommended list:
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article75-page3.html most of the cases are NOT Antec. Yes, the P150 and P180 are at the top of the list. They're the only real "new generation" of cases they've put on their recommended list because it's only updated every 4-6 months. Silverstone and Lian-li are fond of inverting the motherboard in their newer models. SPCR depends on donated samples for reviews and haven't been given any of these type to review. If you're that obssessed with the idea that they "work" for Antec, get people to send them more cases to review. Buy them yourself and send them, since you worship at the alter of Lian Li.
SPCR has reviewed a whopping TWO non-HTPC cases since the P150 review came out in October. The two in question were by Lian-Li and Silverstone.
